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Re: Can a Machine become self-aware?

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Jan Panteltje wrote:
> 
> >anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> wrote or quoted:
> >>On 2025-06-14, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>Can a Machine become self-aware?
> >>We are part of the universe, and we are self-aware.
> >
> >  Self-wareness is an experience that depends on being the
> >  entity that experiences it, so it cannot be observed from
> >  the outside and therefore also not be expressed in words.
> >
> >  If you are self-aware, you probably know that you are self-
> >  aware, but you cannot know for sure whether something else
> >  is self-aware.
> 
> Keep it simple.
> In all the 'neurons' or nerve cells, some monitor what other cells do as system to keep life moving.
> Its purpose is likely communication.
> 
> When a new born baby is hungry, or feels pain it will scream.
> The monitor cells issue a trigger to the voice.
> Almost the same as the reaction to pain reflex when you burn your finger etc.
> Those monitoring calls are the 'I' as in 'I am'.
> We TEACH the kinds who they are, YOU are 'Peter'
> and the monitoring system then repeats ,
> this 'knowledge' ever grows (memory).
> IIRC it is build mostly in the frontal cortex, part of our 'world view'.
> You can make it 'learn' with a few lines of code in the sunscreen example I gave.
> Voice (word) recognition libraries plenty for for example Linux.
> After telling it his name is 'Peter' ask it who it is.
> Who are you?
> I am peter .
> 
> Add a bit more stuff and it will fool many here :-)
> 
> But basically it is just a monitoring circuit for the cells.
> Add a camera, object recognition..
> Ask Peter 'Who am I?'
> The answer will be  you name.
> 
> Who are you?
>  I am Peter.
> Peter How's you battery level?
>  20% and falling.
>   I need  recharge
> 
> beep

Monkies
gorrilas
chimpanzees
dogs
cats
elephants
ants
insects
birds
fishes
have absolutely no self-awareness.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 12:37 -0700
  Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-15 07:02 +0000
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-06-15 09:43 +0200
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-15 07:59 +0000
      Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-15 13:10 +0000
        Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-15 14:18 +0000
  Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-21 16:28 +0000
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-06-21 18:19 +0000
      Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-22 07:16 +0000
        Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-22 11:48 -0700
          Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-24 07:20 +0000
            Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-24 13:11 -0700
              Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-25 06:24 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-25 12:01 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-26 08:11 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-26 10:34 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-27 05:18 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-26 22:39 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-26 22:45 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-28 07:47 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-01 07:51 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-07-02 06:41 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-02 10:56 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-02 20:03 +0100
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-02 13:12 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-02 21:21 +0100
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 15:30 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-03 20:06 +0200
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-03 20:04 +0200
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-07-03 08:24 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-07-03 08:37 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-07 22:03 -0700
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-03 20:01 +0200
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 14:43 -0700

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