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Re: Can a Machine become self-aware?

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>On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 7:02:20 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>>>Can a Machine become self-aware?
>>
>>  Of course,
>>
>> Imagine a sun screen with a light sensor that closes if it gets too
>> bright
>>  10 dollar experiment
>> Now add a voice: computer (or tape player if you want!!) that says
>> if it is light:
>>  "Too bright I ma closing'
>> if it gets darker:
>>  "Too dark, I am opening"
>>
>> 100 dollar experiment.
>>
>> The 'I think so I am' thing is antique
>> That setup I described has reflexes like your eye has.
>> And it has a voice (if that part is active) to describe what it 'feels'
>> (experiences).
>> If the voice part is not active.. it is 'unconscious'
>> but even if we are unconscious our heart and breathing continues.
>> Like that light sensor still opening and closing the sun screen.
>> Two separate parts of our 'circuit'.
>> I have programmed a lot of that sort of stuff, voice alarms here for
>> radiation and dangerous gasses, better than just a beep.
>> What not...
>> Just a few lines of code on a Raspberry Pi little computer.
>> And it logs to memory too.
>> 'memory' did I mention that?
>>
>> Get rid of all the mystery junk about consciousness.
>> We (life forms) are just a chemical reaction
>> bit higher organized collection of cells..
>
>Can chemical reactions, sensors, tape recorders, computers etc. invent a
>brand new rowing method that could have been invented 10000 years ago?

Chemists recreate how RNA might have reproduced for first time
Date:
 May 28, 2025
Source:
 University College London
Summary:
 Chemists have demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might have replicated itself on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life.
  https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2025/may/chemists-recreate-how-rna-might-have-reproduced-first-time

Many apes here, many brainwashed by their environment, schools, parents, 'religious' leaders.
Concepts hammered into their heads and endlessly repeated, wars about their 'beliefs'.

Darwin applies.
Nature had all that before we even understood more than just earth wind and fire.
Fish existed before we learned to build boats.

Took a while before we could fly like birds.
Technology.
sent pictures from the moon landings
Commi-nukate eh communicate on Usenet.
 
Life.. shortly they will make it themselves, and see it evolve,
in the lab, and then...
Maybe some here woof woof like the first experiments.

I started neural net programming before many of you were just  spark in your parents eyes.


>Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

Learn to speak, its easy.
Parrots do it all the time.
And then learn how to design.
And designing requires experiments, and THAT is what nature is, it goes where it can go.
You are just a product of it, one of many.
Some .. LOL

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Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 12:37 -0700
  Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-15 07:02 +0000
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-06-15 09:43 +0200
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-15 07:59 +0000
      Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-15 13:10 +0000
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  Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-21 16:28 +0000
    Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-06-21 18:19 +0000
      Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-22 07:16 +0000
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              Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-06-25 06:24 +0000
                Re: Can a Machine become self-aware? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-25 12:01 -0700
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