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Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe
Date 2022-10-17 14:17 -0700
Organization The Starmaker Organization
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Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 16.10.2022 um 20:39 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 15.10.2022 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
> >>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:17:26 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am 14.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb The Starmaker:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not
> >>>>>> see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of
> >>>>>> it are not.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the
> >>>>>> pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which
> >>>>>> could eventually have such properties as a universal time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Isn't this where you need to start passing around the collection plate?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, possibly...
> >>>>
> >>>> But usually - as a hobbyist- I expect nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> TH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A 'hobby'???? I didn't know religion was considered a hobby. This
> >>> religion of yours known as 'cosmic religion' ...or should i call it
> >>> cosmic hobby, you worship the stars.
> >>>
> >>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth'.
> >>>
> >>> No matter what name you have for God, Jesus, the old One,
> >>> 'Nothingness'...a universe from Nothing/God, ...it's still
> >>> a religion.
> >>>
> >>> I'll tell you what, you preach the stars, and I'll pass around the
> >>> collection plate.
> >>>
> >>> i take bitcoins.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Science is just a religion.
> >>
> >> Not really.
> >>
> >> I regard physics as a hobby, but not as a religion.
> >>
> >> Religion is based on believe, while science is based on not believing
> >> anything.
> >>
> >> It is actually essential, to question everything, even what seems to be
> >> most obvious.
> >>
> >> If you would not do that, or worse forbade scrutiny, you end up with a
> >> scientific mess.
> >>
> >> In science we also have cooperation around the globe, between believers
> >> of different religions and of different nations.
> >>
> >> This turns science into something international and belonging to all
> >> believe systems in existence.
> >>
> >>> Do you believe in flying saucers? It's okay if you do, it's part of
> >>> the religion.
> >>
> >> Well, yes, I think, the theory, that the Nazis have built 'Haunebu IV'
> >> flying saucers is actually true.
> >>
> >> The Nazis have flown them to 'New Swabia' in the Antarctic and faught a
> >> battle with the US-Navi there, which they had won.
> >>
> >> (but that is just a guess)
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+flying+saucers
> >
> > fly·ing sau·cer
> >
> > noun
> > a disk-shaped flying craft supposedly piloted by aliens; a UFO.
> >
> >
> > I'm talking about aliens from outer space, not from Mexico.
> >
> >
> No. You were talking about 'flying saucers'.

Yes, I was taling about 'flying saucers'...

The definition is right there:


 fly·ing sau·cer

 noun
 a disk-shaped flying craft supposedly piloted by aliens; a UFO.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+flying+saucers



YOUR defintion doesn't agree with Nature. Or earthlings.

aliens; a UFO.


Your definition is a Idenfied FO not an Undefinited FO

Also, aliens that fly 'flying saucers' are from outerspace, not Afganastan!







> 
> Such disk shaped spacecrafts were allegedly invented in Nazi Germany
> under the name 'Haunebu' (some Wiking word).
> 
> These spacecraft designers were shipped to the USA after the war in
> 'project paperclip' and have build flying saucers there.
> 
> This story does not necessarily require aliens from outer space.

The definition of 'flying saucers' require aliens from outer space, not toys made by Disney.



> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7OiKUPn3k
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9chz8COYVc
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aga-fA6iUm4
> 
> TH





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-27 00:31 -0700
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-10-28 19:21 +0200
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 12:08 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 12:42 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 13:14 -0700
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-28 16:04 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 16:36 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 18:34 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 21:00 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 22:03 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 00:40 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-30 12:57 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 16:02 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-30 17:13 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 20:07 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-29 11:20 -0700
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                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center   of   the Universe) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-01 09:00 +0100
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                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-01 22:51 -0400
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                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-04 08:10 +0100
                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center   of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-05 09:07 +0100
                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-01 09:05 +0100
                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-02 08:44 +0100
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                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 07:50 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 00:28 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-28 16:03 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-29 00:10 -0400
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 00:36 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-28 08:40 +0200
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