Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:17:17 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 165 Message-ID: <634DC65D.446F@ix.netcom.com> References: <84743f46-91b3-44b7-9507-e8c558407ca7n@googlegroups.com> <6bd2be19-139d-4e69-becb-143f743cb21bn@googlegroups.com> <634994FD.1F4C@ix.netcom.com> <634C4FC8.854@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="dbe834775c61100562d62ee9b8869d77"; logging-data="3715648"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180Gp0KFhdXLJwXzIDPhpt9KjJT1tV3IBQ=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:eSwWUwD2sELUAsNdXaxM0wjY/lE= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 221017-4, 10/17/2022), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:593626 sci.physics:863171 Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am 16.10.2022 um 20:39 schrieb The Starmaker: > > Thomas Heger wrote: > >> > >> Am 15.10.2022 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker: > >>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:17:26 +0200, Thomas Heger > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Am 14.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb The Starmaker: > >>>> > >>>>>> What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not > >>>>>> see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of > >>>>>> it are not. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the > >>>>>> pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which > >>>>>> could eventually have such properties as a universal time. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> TH > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Isn't this where you need to start passing around the collection plate? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Well, possibly... > >>>> > >>>> But usually - as a hobbyist- I expect nothing. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> TH > >>> > >>> > >>> A 'hobby'???? I didn't know religion was considered a hobby. This > >>> religion of yours known as 'cosmic religion' ...or should i call it > >>> cosmic hobby, you worship the stars. > >>> > >>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth'. > >>> > >>> No matter what name you have for God, Jesus, the old One, > >>> 'Nothingness'...a universe from Nothing/God, ...it's still > >>> a religion. > >>> > >>> I'll tell you what, you preach the stars, and I'll pass around the > >>> collection plate. > >>> > >>> i take bitcoins. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Science is just a religion. > >> > >> Not really. > >> > >> I regard physics as a hobby, but not as a religion. > >> > >> Religion is based on believe, while science is based on not believing > >> anything. > >> > >> It is actually essential, to question everything, even what seems to be > >> most obvious. > >> > >> If you would not do that, or worse forbade scrutiny, you end up with a > >> scientific mess. > >> > >> In science we also have cooperation around the globe, between believers > >> of different religions and of different nations. > >> > >> This turns science into something international and belonging to all > >> believe systems in existence. > >> > >>> Do you believe in flying saucers? It's okay if you do, it's part of > >>> the religion. > >> > >> Well, yes, I think, the theory, that the Nazis have built 'Haunebu IV' > >> flying saucers is actually true. > >> > >> The Nazis have flown them to 'New Swabia' in the Antarctic and faught a > >> battle with the US-Navi there, which they had won. > >> > >> (but that is just a guess) > >> > >> TH > > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+flying+saucers > > > > fly·ing sau·cer > > > > noun > > a disk-shaped flying craft supposedly piloted by aliens; a UFO. > > > > > > I'm talking about aliens from outer space, not from Mexico. > > > > > No. You were talking about 'flying saucers'. Yes, I was taling about 'flying saucers'... The definition is right there: fly·ing sau·cer noun a disk-shaped flying craft supposedly piloted by aliens; a UFO. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+flying+saucers YOUR defintion doesn't agree with Nature. Or earthlings. aliens; a UFO. Your definition is a Idenfied FO not an Undefinited FO Also, aliens that fly 'flying saucers' are from outerspace, not Afganastan! > > Such disk shaped spacecrafts were allegedly invented in Nazi Germany > under the name 'Haunebu' (some Wiking word). > > These spacecraft designers were shipped to the USA after the war in > 'project paperclip' and have build flying saucers there. > > This story does not necessarily require aliens from outer space. The definition of 'flying saucers' require aliens from outer space, not toys made by Disney. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7OiKUPn3k > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9chz8COYVc > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aga-fA6iUm4 > > TH -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.