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Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe)

From Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe)
Date 2022-11-03 10:50 +0100
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On 2022-11-03 09:37:35 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

> Am 03.11.2022 um 06:11 schrieb Volney:
> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Einstein had a LOT of opportunity and incentive to learn English at
>>>>> Princton.
>>>> 
>>>> And he did learn English.
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc1tzwP8GHo
>>> 
>>> Sure, he could speak English. But it seems, as if he would read his
>>> speech from a manuscript.
>>> 
>>> The pronounciation is also very bad and he had a very heavy German
>>> accent.
>> 
>> As expected from learning English at 54. You will almost always have an
>> accent when learning a language after around age 8 or so.
> 
> It was not only the heavy accent, but also the fact, that he had to 
> read his simple statements from a manuscript.

You give the impression of having no experience at all with real 
scientists giving lectures. Some are good at it; others are not. It has 
very little to do with the quality of the science.
> 
> But a scientist speaking in his field of expertise would certainly 
> don't need a script to present a few basics of his theory.

Nonsense.
> 
> This manuscript itself could possibly been written by a third unknown 
> party and his heavy accent was actually all he had to offer in English.

Fantasy.
> 
> 
> So we have to ask the same question again about the other works of 
> Einstein and whether he was the actual author (or 'Q').
> 
> Look at this_
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
> 
> Now ask yourself the question, whether his early years are somehow plausible.
> 
> I would say: no. His CV makes no sense, because teenagers usually don't 
> do what Einstein did.
> 
> Therefore, we could search for an alternative explanation of the same events.
> 
> One possibility would be, that his biography was faked by some sort of 
> agency, most likely related to the Jesuits and/or to Swizerland.
> 
> This may sound a little far fetched. But the Catholic Church had a long 
> history of interfering with science.
> 
> According to this video
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTiztUNrhhM
> a lot of really good scientists got surpressed, like Kepler or Leibnitz 
> for instance. Then almost the same ideas were later presented by 
> people, who were allegedly agents like Newton, Gallileo or Gordano 
> Bruno.
> 
> Now: what if these people still exist and still want to surpress science?
> 
> Wouldn't a celebrated piece of crap be the best way to do that?
> 
> 
> 
> TH


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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