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On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 21:19:50 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

>john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
>
>
>[...] 
>> I think I'm seeing a return to biology, recognition that boys and
>> girls are different. 
>
>There is a trend towards Victorian ideas of biology, as taught in infant
>schools; many people nowadays rarely progress  beyond that stage. 

Natural selection is a victorian concept, but it still works.


 There
>is no single characteristic which determines a person's sex, it is made
>up of chromosomes, organs, hormones, brain development and dozens of
>other components that are still being discovered.  Any attempt to
>rigidly classify people by their ability to reproduce, what the midwife
>saw (or thought she saw) at their birth, or any other single
>charactreristic is a complete nonsense.

I agree that we shouldn't be rigid. But having a Y chromosone tends to
make people stronger and faster and hairier and meaner, and dominate
sporting events. A mediocre male athelete can declare himself to be a
her and be an instant superstar.

Midwives don't see chromosones, but make pretty good guesses.

>
>With all these variables it is hardly surprising that some of the
>biological markers appear to contradict the social ones which make up
>gender.
>
>
>>The trans thing is fading. 
>
>Trans people were there all along but they were afraid to speak out;
>then things became more civilised and they showed themselves.  People
>were surprised: where had they all come from so suddenly?  There must be
>some sort of trendy mass delusion going on.  Now ignorant thugs are in
>control and trans people are hiding away again.
>
>We were always here and we will always be here - just less or more
>visible depending on the level of oppression.
>
>
>> Nowadays people don't have to conform to traditional gender roles, but
>> many choose to because that's what they are.
>
>Most people have the right to choose but there is one group of people
>who have been singled out and denied that right - and they are the ones
>who would most benefit from it.

The number of genuine trans people was always been a low percent of
the population. Lately it had become a fad in teenagers; blame the
internet.

Fads come and go, faster and faster.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/transgender-trend-sharply-declining-american-college-campuses-new-analysis-finds

Several sources cite the roughly 50% drop in the last couple of years.
I think boys and girls are finding that it's more fun to be cis.



John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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      Re: remedial nerd liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-19 21:19 +0100
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          Re: remedial nerd liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-20 12:40 +0100
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          Re: remedial nerd liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-20 09:46 +0100
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              Re: remedial nerd liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-20 17:22 +0100
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                Re: remedial nerd liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-20 19:50 +0100
                Re: remedial nerd john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2025-10-20 13:27 -0700
                Re: remedial nerd liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-20 22:14 +0100
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