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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

From "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.
Date 2017-04-28 17:51 +0100
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:47:52 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/28/17, 6:12 AM, in article op.yzepmds6js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 01:23:00 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/27/17, 4:57 PM, in article op.yzdot4iqjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> They have an outdated file system (which is going to change soon,
>>>>>>> FINALLY)
>>>>>>> running of absurdly slow drives (5400 rpm).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh come on, don't Macs use SSDs?  Nobody uses mechanical hard disks
>>>>>> anymore apart from if you need huge storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The iMacs still come, standard, with not just a hard disk but a damned slow
>>>>> one. SSDs are still too expensive for the type storage you see on desktops,
>>>>> 1TB and above but they should at least come with Fusion drives. And really
>>>>> >>>> a 5400 rpm on a desktop at that price range is insane.
>>>>
>>>> 1TB of SSD is quite feasible in price.
>>>
>>> Would love to see a link showing one for a price not too much more than a
>>> hard drive of that size.
>>
>> I didn't say it was the same price as a hard disk, I said it was a feasible
>> price.  Since it's a hell of a lot faster, it's worth paying a bit extra.  1TB
>> of SSD is about £220.  1TB of hard disk is about £45.  So only £175 for a HUGE
>> speed increase.
>
> It is close to 5x the price. I am not denying the benefit but there is quite
> a difference there.

5x is a big difference if it was the total price, but it's only one component.  You need to look at the cost compared to the whole machine.  And consider that a cheaper machine would have a smaller SSD so wouldn't be so much price difference.

I don't know anyone who would buy a new machine nowadays with no SSD in it, it's like night and day.  You're just slowing down the rest of the computer by a HUGE factor.  You're better paying more to get an SSD and having a slower something else like the CPU to make the total price the same.  Same goes for people who scrimp on RAM size.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 23:51 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 16:06 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 00:57 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 17:23 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 14:12 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 09:47 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 17:51 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 11:07 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 19:37 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 12:19 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 20:44 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 12:56 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 21:18 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 14:19 -0700

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