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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 4/28/17, 9:51 AM, in article op.yzezrwg0js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

>>>> Would love to see a link showing one for a price not too much more than a
>>>> hard drive of that size.
>>> 
>>> I didn't say it was the same price as a hard disk, I said it was a feasible
>>> price.  Since it's a hell of a lot faster, it's worth paying a bit extra.
>>> 1TB
>>> of SSD is about £220.  1TB of hard disk is about £45.  So only £175 for a
>>> HUGE
>>> speed increase.
>> 
>> It is close to 5x the price. I am not denying the benefit but there is quite
>> a difference there.
> 
> 5x is a big difference if it was the total price, but it's only one component.

It is the total price of the component we are talking about. But, sure, as I
have said I wish Apple would move to better drives. And a better file system
for that matter. I have been saying that for years. With APFS they are
finally getting the better file system -- but even with that it is new and I
am sure still needs maturing.
 
> You need to look at the cost compared to the whole machine.  And consider that
> a cheaper machine would have a smaller SSD so wouldn't be so much price
> difference.

I agree Apple should include better drives. It is absurd to sell an iMac
with a 5400 RPM drive in it.

> I don't know anyone who would buy a new machine nowadays with no SSD in it,
> it's like night and day.

Even a Fusion drive would make sense for most... closer to the cost of the
hard drive and most of the benefits of the SSD (though if you are like me
and use a lot of VMs and the like you will run into issues).

> You're just slowing down the rest of the computer by a HUGE factor.  You're
> better paying more to get an SSD and having a slower something else like the
> CPU to make the total price the same.  Same goes for people who scrimp on RAM
> size.

Overall I agree... I would be happier with a slower CPU and the faster
drive. 

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 23:51 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 16:06 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 00:57 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 17:23 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 14:12 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 09:47 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 17:51 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 11:07 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 19:37 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 12:19 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 20:44 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 12:56 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 21:18 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 14:19 -0700

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