Re: Mac mail

Subject	Re: Mac mail
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
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From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2015-09-06 10:47 -0400
Message-ID	<gMidnfZ2Poabz3HInZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink)

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On 2015-09-05 23:09, Lewis wrote:
> In message <mO-dnb8Am-FwYHfInZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-09-05 09:51, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <d4ufvcFq8iU1@mid.individual.net>
>>>     Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-04, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-09-04 10:54, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-09-04, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-09-03 15:20, Erilar wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2015-09-03 10:58, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have one telephone and a Mac mini plugged in on one level  of the
>>>>>>>>>> house and an iMac on the other level.   Can I set up mail so that I
>>>>>>>>>> receive it on both?  I want to have all in and out mail on both
>>>>>>>>>> machines so I can utilize either machine and have all the
>>>>>>>>>> transactions also viewable on the other? I want to use mail that
>>>>>>>>>> comes with machine and not webmail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IMAP.  This is also supported by Gmail (and other Webmails) if you're so
>>>>>>>>> infected.  Gmail's IMAP is a little screwy and Apple Mail does funny
>>>>>>>>> things to settings on occasion (like reconfiguring ports to its preferences.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't recall noticing funny things happening to my settings 8-). I've had
>>>>>>>> IMAP for years, and my main email turns up on both laptops as well as iPad.
>>>>>>>> . And all can be accessed via my ISPs webmail, too. IPad has an iCloud
>>>>>>>> account, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a well known problem.  Some users never see it.  Others are
>>>>>>> plagued by it.  A couple days ago, Mail spontaneously changed the "Allow
>>>>>>> insecure authentication" setting of one of my POP accounts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had that setting enable itself, but it hasn't ever caused a problem
>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>> We've been over this ground before.  I've seen it regularly (some upset
>>>>> event once every month or so) as have others.
>>>
>>>> Yes, you've said so before. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just
>>>> pointing out that, unlike you, the setting change hasn't caused any
>>>> apparent problems here.
>>>
>>> Nor has it for the majority of users. I like how Alan says "some users
>>> never see it" implying that most do. The fact is, nearly no one has a
>>> problem with this setting.
>
>> I wasn't implying that most do see it.  From all reports most do not.
>> But there is significant reporting of the issue (which a simple web
>> search will reveal).
>
> "Significant" is your belife based on pretty much no evidence. You can
> find people complaining about ANYTHING on a web search. So what?
>
>> Apple acknowledge it as a bug in Bug Reporter (and claim it was fixed in
>> 10.10.2 - (it is not fixed whatever they say).  Would Apple declare a
>> fix for something that wasn't fixed or significant?
>
> No one has ever said it never happened. However, it is 1) a rare event
> 2) trivially easy to fix 3) has been fixed as far as I can tell.

Trivially easy for some and not approachable by others.
It manifestly has not been fixed.

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  Re: Mac mail Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-03 11:39 -0400
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          Re: Mac mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-04 19:19 +0000
            Re: Mac mail Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-04 16:49 -0400
              Re: Mac mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-04 22:25 +0000
                Re: Mac mail Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-04 18:50 -0400
                Re: Mac mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-05 13:57 +0000
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            Re: Mac mail Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-05 10:16 -0400
              Re: Mac mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-06 03:05 +0000
            Re: Mac mail Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-09-08 12:37 +0000
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                Re: Mac mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 15:32 +0000
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                Re: Mac mail Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-25 12:25 -0400
                Re: Mac mail Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:26 +0000
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                Re: Mac mail Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-09-25 21:00 +0000
                Re: Mac mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 21:36 +0000
                Re: Mac mail David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-26 00:46 -0500
                Re: Mac mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-26 16:22 +0000
                Re: Mac mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-26 00:15 +0000
              Re: Mac mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-25 06:11 +0000
                Re: Mac mail Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-09-25 21:00 +0000
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