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Re: Verizon Email => AOL

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On 2017-03-04 22:38:49 +0000, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> said:

> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 22:14:03 UTC, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-KyS7UX35PPMd@localhost>, John Varela
>> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Verizon is transferring their email service to AOL servers.
>> 
>> not everywhere, they aren't.
> 
> IINM they have been running Verizon email on AOL servers for some
> time.
> 
> Whatever. It's just a matter of time. There was a news item in The
> Washington Post a few weeks ago that Verizon was switching to AOL in
> Virginia. I have been waiting now for a notification to come but
> none has, and I'm getting antsy.
> 
>>> I have been using Verizon POP mail with Mail.app on two iMacs (one
>>> for me, one for her) and an iPad. My wife and I both have multiple
>>> email addresses. I maintain her and my iMacs as the masters and use
>>> the iPad for mail only when travelling. So I have it set up that
>>> mail downloaded to the iPad is left on the server, but mail
>>> downloaded to a Mac is erased immediately. That works fine for me
>>> and I haven't bothered to convert to IMAP.
>>> 
>>> Now comes AOL and says POP3 always erases email as soon as
>>> downloaded. If they really mean that, then I cannot continue as I
>>> have been. When reading email on the iPad it will be necessary to go
>>> to the AOL (ugh!) web site. I could do that but would much rather
>>> not.
>> 
>> pop is obsolete. imap can do everything pop can do and a whole lot more.
>> 
>>> Either that, or switch to IMAP. But here is the Catch 22: The AOL
>>> FAQ says that "Mac (Apple) Mail only supports POP3 protocol for
>>> Verizon migrated accounts."
>>> 
>>> Can that be true? Does anyone here have experience using Mail.app
>>> with AOL?
>> 
>> i don't know if it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is
>> since you are dealing with two totally incompetent companies, neither
>> of which gives a flying fuck about what's best for their users.
>> 
>>> Can anyone recommend mail apps for Mac and iPad that work well with
>>> AOL IMAP? If so, how good is the Mac version at importing archived
>>> mailboxes from Mail.app? I have hundreds of archived emails sorted
>>> into dozens of mailboxes.
>> 
>> there is no such thing as 'aol imap'.
> 
> The AOL FAQ on the transition says there is, but not for Apple Mail.
> 
> <https://help.aol.com/articles/verizon-move-to-aol-mail-setting-up-y
> our-new-aol-account-in-a-third-party-email-program-or-mobile-device-
> imap>
> 
>>> I'd much rather not switch mail providers because I have at least
>>> 100 web sites that use one of my Verizon addresses as User ID and it
>>> would be a real pain to go around changing all of those sites. I'm
>>> not even sure that I could change some of them.
>> 
>> set up forwarding.
> 
> Verizon will cancel any address that is idle for 90 days. Define
> "idle". I suspect it means nothing outgoing, because there will
> always be spam incoming.
> 
> There are more problems. According to that FAQ, AOL ses up POP3 to
> erase an email once downloaded. So when I am travelling and want to
> use the iPad, I can't, because if an email is one that I save I
> won't be able to easily get it to my Mac for archiving.

...and what is Verizon going to do with Yahoo once that acquisition is 
complete?
-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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  Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-03 17:14 -0500
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    Re: Verizon Email => AOL "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2017-03-04 22:38 +0000
      Re: Verizon Email => AOL Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-04 15:02 -0800
        Re: Verizon Email => AOL Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-04 17:57 -0800
        Re: Verizon Email => AOL "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2017-03-05 21:10 +0000
      Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 18:06 -0500
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        Re: Verizon Email => AOL Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-04 03:03 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 14:22 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 16:36 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 13:40 -0500
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 19:59 -0500
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 18:40 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 00:38 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 16:34 +0000
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