Re: Verizon Email => AOL

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Verizon Email => AOL
Date	2017-03-07 08:02 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<070320170802105582%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
References	(3 earlier) <030320171917332546%nospam@nospam.invalid> <barmar-D3D396.16043504032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <040320171623041494%nospam@nospam.invalid> <barmar-403EDC.17223305032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <slrnobsu8r.130p.g.kreme@snow.local>

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In article <slrnobsu8r.130p.g.kreme@snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> 
> >> > When Comcast first started offering IMAP, they had some 
> >> > glitches there -- when I deleted a message or moved it to a folder 
> >> > (using OS X's Mail.app), it would sometime revert back to the Inbox.
> >> 
> >> that's more than likely a problem with apple mail, which does all sorts
> >> of things wrong. unfortunately, other email apps are worse.
> 
> > It's hard to imagine what it could be. IMAP simply has a command to move 
> > a message to a folder.
> 
> > Also, the problem eventually went away, with no changes in Apple Mail (I 
> > think I was still using Snow Leopard at the time, and Apple had stopped 
> > updating it).
> 
> Nospam has a bug up his ass about Mail.app for some reason.

because it's awful and doesn't work properly. unfortunately, other mail
apps are worse.

> I've used hundreds of mail clients of the years, many different ones in
> the bad-old-days of the 80s and 90s. Things like mailx and elm and
> Eudora and custom mail readers for BBSs and the list goes on.
> 
> While at the time elm (which lead to pine/alpine) was great, it's CLI
> roots really don't work in a modern mail system. Same with mutt, which
> is great on the command line and almost GUI-like, but not.

i've used cli mail clients too. still do, in fact.

> Even under OS X (macOS) I've tried dozens.
> 
> Mail.app is easily the best of the lot and the only one where I've never
> lost mail. It lacks features I would really like and so I have to resort
> to logging in to the server and doing thins sometimes, but they are
> esoteric things I would LIKE, not necessary things I need.

i've had to restore from backups on more than one occasion because
apple mail munged my mail.

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  Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-03 17:14 -0500
    Re: Verizon Email => AOL David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2017-03-03 17:36 -0600
      Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-03 19:17 -0500
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            Re: Verizon Email => AOL Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2017-03-05 17:22 -0500
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-07 08:02 -0500
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 14:39 +0000
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        Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-03 19:22 -0500
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      Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 11:05 -0500
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        Re: Verizon Email => AOL Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-04 17:57 -0800
        Re: Verizon Email => AOL "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2017-03-05 21:10 +0000
      Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 18:06 -0500
        Re: Verizon Email => AOL Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 00:36 +0000
          Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 19:59 -0500
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        Re: Verizon Email => AOL Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-04 03:03 +0000
          Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-03 22:11 -0500
          Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 04:50 +0000
            Re: Verizon Email => AOL Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-04 05:17 +0000
              Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 00:24 -0500
              Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 06:17 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-04 06:31 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 02:33 -0500
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 14:22 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-04 16:24 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 16:36 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 13:40 -0500
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 00:43 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 19:59 -0500
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 18:40 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 00:41 +0000
                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 00:38 +0000
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                Re: Verizon Email => AOL Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 16:34 +0000
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