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Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"

Date 2013-09-20 14:10 +0100
From Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Newsgroups comp.security.pgp.tech, comp.security.pgp.discuss, sci.crypt
Subject Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"
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On 20/09/2013 10:53, Juergen Nieveler wrote:
> Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Look again.  Snowden did not have access to personnel data.  He is
>>>> only leaking the management documents.
>>>
>>> Snowden has respect for peoples' privacy. Doesn't mean he didn't have
>>> access to the data, though. And the fact that it's there is plain
>>> obvious, considering stuff like LOVEINT.
>>>
>>
>> LOVEINT was a sacking offence.  Snowden knew because he was warned what
>> would happen to him if he tried doing it.
>
> It was a sacking offence for those who got caught. Are there any
> reports on how many, and how fast they were caught?
>
> As Sysadmin, Snowden had more access and knowledge than those sacked
> for LOVEINT, so it's safe to assume that he could bypass a lot of
> safeguards (which is one of the things the NSA is keen on fixing now)
>

Snowden could bypass computer checks but not human inspections.  The 
moment anything got printed out he risked being caught.

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NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-16 10:21 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 10:01 +1000
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 17:10 +1000
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 19:46 +1000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:36 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-09-17 02:46 +0000
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 04:07 +0100
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 06:56 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 09:41 +0100
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 09:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 14:10 +0100
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:26 -0500
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 16:36 -0500
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-06 23:23 +0000
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          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-10 19:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-11 10:31 -0600
              Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-11 18:09 +0000
                Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-12 11:26 -0600
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 00:58 +0000
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        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Dave Hazelwood <fednatic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 21:22 +0800
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