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Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"

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On 2013-11-07, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:58:45 -0500, unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> It is not at all clear to me that there is any law in Canada which
>> prevents CSIS or the RCMP from spying on locals.
>
> My understanding is, that there is, but I suspect the nsa probably
> spies on Canadians, and then gives the info to csis, and csec
> probably spies on Americans, and gives the info to the nsa. That
> way, neither of them are spying on their own citizens, but they
> get the info anyway.

In the US conspiracy to break the law is itself against the law. NSA
explicitly asking for or receiving such information whose gathering is
illegal is probably in itself illegal. (If I hire you to rob a bank, I
am also guilty of the crime of robbing the bank and well as conspiring
to rob the bank)

>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

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  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 10:01 +1000
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 17:10 +1000
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  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-09-17 02:46 +0000
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 04:07 +0100
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