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Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"

Newsgroups comp.security.pgp.tech
Date 2013-11-18 09:11 -0800
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Subject Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"
From Tim downing <timotheus.d@gmail.com>

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On Monday, September 16, 2013 11:21:53 AM UTC-4, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> NSA cryptanalyst: We, too, are Americans
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> Summary: ZDNet Exclusive: An NSA mathematician shares his 
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> from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities.
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> "An NSA mathematician, seeking to help shape the ongoing debate about 
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> the agency's foreign surveillance activities, has contributed this 
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> column to ZDNet Government. The author, Roger Barkan, also appeared in 
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> last year's National Geographic Channel special about the National 
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> Security Agency.
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> "The rest of this article contains Roger's words only, edited simply for 
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> formatting.
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> "Many voices -- from those in the White House to others at my local 
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> coffee shop -- have weighed in on NSA's surveillance programs, which 
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> have recently been disclosed by the media.
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> "As someone deep in the trenches of NSA, where I work on a daily basis 
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> with data acquired from these programs, I, too, feel compelled to raise 
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> my voice. Do I, as an American, have any concerns about whether the NSA 
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> is illegally or surreptitiously [...]"
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> http://www.zdnet.com/nsa-cryptanalyst-we-too-are-americans-7000020689/?s_cid=e539&ttag=e539
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> -Ramon

It's become a tired refrain, but I continue to tell people, "Edward Snowden proved the tinfoil-had crowd was wrong... they weren't using nearly enough tinfoil.

On a related note, the Director of National Intelligence needs to be brought up on charges of perjuring himself before congress.

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NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-16 10:21 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 10:01 +1000
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 17:10 +1000
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 19:46 +1000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:36 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-09-17 02:46 +0000
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 04:07 +0100
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 06:56 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 09:41 +0100
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 09:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 14:10 +0100
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:26 -0500
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 16:36 -0500
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-06 23:23 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2013-11-06 23:50 +0000
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-10 19:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-11 10:31 -0600
              Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-11 18:09 +0000
                Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-12 11:26 -0600
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 00:58 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-11-06 20:49 -0500
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 04:50 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 19:54 -0500
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Dave Hazelwood <fednatic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 21:22 +0800
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Tim downing <timotheus.d@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 09:11 -0800

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