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Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"

Date 2013-11-06 23:23 +0000
From Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Newsgroups sci.crypt, comp.security.pgp.tech, comp.security.pgp.discuss
Subject Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"
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On 06/11/2013 21:36, Harry wrote:
> On 2013-09-17 15:26, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On 9/16/2013 5:56 PM, Anonymous wrote:
>>> So were Joseph McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and Robert Hanssen.  Being an
>>> American does not mean that someone is beyond reproach.
>>
>> You are forgetting the BEST possible example!! This bastard son of a
>> bitch:
>>
>>      http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Edgarina.jpg
>>
>> In fact, the so-called McCarthism was a misnomer, since Hoover was the
>> one pulling the strings.
>>
>> Funny how now we have a MaCarthy reincarnate/wannabe, who (thank God!)
>> does not have the hand of the FBI up his ass.
>>
>>     http://goo.gl/Ey5pAu
>>
>> Here's the scoop on Hoover:
>>
>>     http://goo.gl/UmtsZZ
>>
>> -Ramon
>>
>>
>>
> I was somewhat amused by reports that Canada's spy agency was also up to
> its neck in this stuff but of course "was not spying on Canadians". Who
> do they think these governments are fooling. They pass laws or
> directives to prevent spying on the locals but then just get a
> neighboring country to do it for them and share the data.
>
> Nobody is safe from this activity. Technology just makes spying like
> this too easy and I don't see any way to force governments to stop doing
> it. I mean really, do you trust that any security product that you
> purchase does NOT have back doors for government use?
>

They mostly spy on Russians and Chinese.

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NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-16 10:21 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 10:01 +1000
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 17:10 +1000
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 19:46 +1000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:36 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-09-17 02:46 +0000
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 04:07 +0100
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 06:56 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 09:41 +0100
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 09:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 14:10 +0100
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:26 -0500
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 16:36 -0500
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-06 23:23 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2013-11-06 23:50 +0000
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-10 19:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-11 10:31 -0600
              Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-11 18:09 +0000
                Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-12 11:26 -0600
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 00:58 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-11-06 20:49 -0500
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 04:50 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 19:54 -0500
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Dave Hazelwood <fednatic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 21:22 +0800
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Tim downing <timotheus.d@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 09:11 -0800

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