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Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"

From Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.crypt, comp.security.pgp.tech, comp.security.pgp.discuss
Subject Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans"
Date 2013-11-06 16:36 -0500
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On 2013-09-17 15:26, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On 9/16/2013 5:56 PM, Anonymous wrote:
>> So were Joseph McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and Robert Hanssen.  Being an
>> American does not mean that someone is beyond reproach.
>
> You are forgetting the BEST possible example!! This bastard son of a bitch:
>
>      http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Edgarina.jpg
>
> In fact, the so-called McCarthism was a misnomer, since Hoover was the
> one pulling the strings.
>
> Funny how now we have a MaCarthy reincarnate/wannabe, who (thank God!)
> does not have the hand of the FBI up his ass.
>
>     http://goo.gl/Ey5pAu
>
> Here's the scoop on Hoover:
>
>     http://goo.gl/UmtsZZ
>
> -Ramon
>
>
>
I was somewhat amused by reports that Canada's spy agency was also up to 
its neck in this stuff but of course "was not spying on Canadians". Who 
do they think these governments are fooling. They pass laws or 
directives to prevent spying on the locals but then just get a 
neighboring country to do it for them and share the data.

Nobody is safe from this activity. Technology just makes spying like 
this too easy and I don't see any way to force governments to stop doing 
it. I mean really, do you trust that any security product that you 
purchase does NOT have back doors for government use?

-- 

Harry

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NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-16 10:21 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 10:01 +1000
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 17:10 +1000
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2013-09-17 19:46 +1000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:36 -0500
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-09-17 02:46 +0000
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-17 04:07 +0100
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 06:56 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 09:41 +0100
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2013-09-20 09:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-09-20 14:10 +0100
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2013-09-17 14:26 -0500
    Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 16:36 -0500
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-06 23:23 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2013-11-06 23:50 +0000
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-10 19:53 +0000
            Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-11 10:31 -0600
              Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2013-11-11 18:09 +0000
                Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-12 11:26 -0600
      Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 00:58 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-11-06 20:49 -0500
          Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-11-07 04:50 +0000
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Harry <hepgugl56@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 19:54 -0500
        Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Dave Hazelwood <fednatic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 21:22 +0800
  Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Tim downing <timotheus.d@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 09:11 -0800

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