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| First post | 2026-03-03 06:54 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-04-01 14:03 +0100 |
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GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 06:54 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-02 23:23 -0800
Re: GNU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 02:52 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 10:55 +0000
Re: GNU Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-03-03 10:59 +0000
Re: GNU Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-03-03 13:24 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 14:55 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 18:50 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 11:13 -0800
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 02:56 +0000
Re: GNU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 00:12 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 11:52 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:00 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 08:01 -0800
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-04 17:06 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 09:11 -0800
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:18 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:05 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-04 19:37 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:16 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-05 02:52 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 21:00 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-05 23:49 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:22 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 11:03 +1100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:10 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:23 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 17:00 +0100
Re: GNU Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-06 12:08 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:21 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 09:59 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-07 06:36 +0200
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 18:54 -0600
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:12 +0100
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 20:45 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 01:11 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 03:06 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:12 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:16 +0100
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 10:00 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 20:41 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 21:27 +0000
Re: GNU richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-06 21:32 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 21:46 +0000
Re: GNU "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-03-06 21:56 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-07 09:10 +1100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 22:25 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 17:06 -0800
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 05:52 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 07:14 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:25 +0000
Re: GNU Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2026-03-07 08:50 -0800
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 15:11 -0600
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 22:54 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:40 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:13 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 21:43 -0800
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 18:16 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-08 09:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 11:57 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 15:08 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:13 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:12 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:13 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 14:01 -0800
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:44 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:22 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:26 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:01 -0500
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:19 +1100
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 05:59 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 19:27 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 09:20 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:10 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 17:26 -0700
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 07:47 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-09 21:09 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 13:56 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 02:58 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 04:34 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 14:36 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:36 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-07 06:43 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 15:38 +1100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:17 +0100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:57 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 10:06 +0000
Re: GNU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-06 18:24 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:21 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:26 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:04 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:23 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 23:07 -0600
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 23:14 -0600
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 05:17 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:20 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 16:30 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:23 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 17:38 +1100
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:58 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 22:47 +1100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 12:48 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:33 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:44 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:34 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-07 12:20 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:41 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:55 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:46 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 16:12 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:20 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:53 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:12 -0500
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 21:31 -0500
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:35 +1100
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-08 12:26 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 09:28 +1100
Re: GNU Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-03-07 14:03 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 14:16 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:51 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:52 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:45 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 21:32 -0500
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:54 +0100
Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-03-07 14:02 +0000
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 22:52 +0000
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-08 14:27 +0100
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:39 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 11:44 -0600
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:41 +1100
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-08 21:00 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:49 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:32 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-07 15:50 +1100
Re: GNU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-07 11:02 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 21:56 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:50 +1100
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-08 02:06 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 19:30 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:31 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:22 +0100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 12:46 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:01 +0100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:57 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:48 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:13 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:07 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 07:33 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 07:36 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 09:06 +0100
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-08 20:35 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:59 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 14:03 +0000
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:10 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:16 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 08:49 -0800
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 15:06 -0600
Re: GNU richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-07 21:30 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 16:35 -0500
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:34 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 20:10 -0500
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:55 -0700
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-09 00:27 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-08 22:02 -0600
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 16:12 -0800
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 01:05 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 21:30 -0800
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 16:52 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 14:28 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:32 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:21 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:59 +1100
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 09:43 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:27 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 23:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 22:40 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 07:39 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 07:39 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 09:12 +0100
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 08:59 -0400
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 17:44 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 11:42 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 17:52 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 19:51 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:23 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 20:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 13:59 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:32 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:46 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 10:02 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:19 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 14:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 20:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 23:57 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 00:31 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 05:00 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-09 22:48 +1300
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-09 10:14 +0100
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-10 09:32 +0200
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 09:10 -0700
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-09 01:16 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:58 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 01:07 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 06:22 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 08:00 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 10:09 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-09 06:16 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 06:24 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-09 06:54 +0000
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-09 07:37 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-10 09:37 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-10 10:37 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-11 10:09 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-10 13:25 +0000
Re: GNU Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-10 14:26 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-10 19:35 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-10 15:49 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:54 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:07 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 12:11 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 07:07 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 07:50 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-16 22:03 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:00 +0000
Re: GNU Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-17 18:08 +0000
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:28 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-16 10:36 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-16 08:58 +0100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:28 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-16 09:34 +1300
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-15 22:23 +0100
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 23:38 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-15 21:24 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 12:56 +0000
Re: GNU Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-16 12:27 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-15 22:27 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 13:29 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 06:29 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 17:52 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-16 00:32 -0700
Re: GNU Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-16 12:41 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 08:55 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-17 10:03 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 01:01 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-17 08:18 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 19:03 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-17 12:27 -0700
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Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-17 22:18 +0100
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Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:20 +0200
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Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-04-01 16:11 +0200
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Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 04:17 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:01 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 09:02 -0700
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:32 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 10:45 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-04-01 11:44 +1100
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Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 07:24 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-01 15:15 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 02:54 +0000
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Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 16:49 -0700
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 01:24 +0100
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Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-31 20:33 +1100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:12 +0200
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:04 +0200
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:03 +0200
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 09:01 -0400
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:32 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:38 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:20 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:07 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:35 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:41 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 11:06 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:27 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:25 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 21:05 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:37 +0100
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 09:49 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 21:06 +0100
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Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 12:23 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:37 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 20:18 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-01 15:22 -0700
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 18:58 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:38 +0100
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-04-03 21:56 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:27 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 19:17 +0000
Steam "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:14 +0200
Re: Steam c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:25 -0400
Re: Steam rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 00:45 +0000
Re: Steam c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:46 -0400
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-01 15:25 -0700
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 19:00 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:52 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:39 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 20:32 -0400
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 06:56 +0000
Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-03 10:47 +0200
Re: GNU "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-04-03 12:21 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:16 +0100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-04 00:19 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 05:34 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:58 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:39 +0100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-02 14:33 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 14:59 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:03 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:54 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 13:43 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 23:49 +0000
OT Train travel Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:30 +0200
Re: OT Train travel The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:31 +0100
Re: OT Train travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 13:47 +0200
Re: OT Train travel Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 14:37 +0200
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-02 18:55 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-04-02 20:29 +0100
Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 14:27 -0700
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 08:15 +0200
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:21 +0100
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 14:32 +0200
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:58 -0400
Re: Steamrollers nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-04 11:07 +0200
Re: Steamrollers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:42 +0200
Re: Steamrollers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:22 -0400
Re: Steamrollers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:34 +0000
Re: Steamrollers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:32 +0000
chip and seal (was: Steamrollers) Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> - 2026-04-05 13:36 +0000
Re: chip and seal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:49 +0200
Re: chip and seal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:46 +0100
Re: chip and seal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:13 +0000
Re: chip and seal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-06 13:17 +0200
Re: chip and seal - and African roads Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-04-07 20:33 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:08 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-02 13:52 -0700
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-04 01:47 +0100
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:33 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 09:56 +0100
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-04-03 22:04 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:32 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 23:56 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 05:29 +0000
School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-02 05:33 +0200
Re: School stories rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:33 +0000
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:16 +0200
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:45 +0100
Re: School stories Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-04-03 18:00 +0100
Re: School stories athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 18:58 +0000
Re: School stories Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 15:59 -0400
Re: School stories rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 00:35 +0000
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:26 +0100
Re: School stories Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-04-04 18:56 +0100
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:19 -0700
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-04 03:22 +0200
Re: School stories Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 23:46 -0400
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-05 05:27 +0200
Re: School stories Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 08:52 +0100
Re: School stories "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:50 +0200
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:28 -0700
Re: School stories "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:07 +0200
Re: School stories John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 07:45 -0700
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-07 05:44 +0200
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 21:01 -0700
Re: School stories Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:24 +0000
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:32 -0700
Re: School stories Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2026-04-16 23:05 -0700
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:43 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:24 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:29 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-04-01 11:51 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 04:40 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 22:35 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:38 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 05:35 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 21:50 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:22 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:32 +0100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 22:39 -0700
Fountain pens (was: Re: GNU) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 07:00 +0100
Re: Fountain pens (was: Re: GNU) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:42 +0000
Re: Fountain pens c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-31 21:36 -0400
Re: Fountain pens "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:30 +0200
Re: Fountain pens Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:22 +0100
Re: Fountain pens "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:12 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-31 20:36 +1100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:33 +0200
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:39 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:43 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:43 +0200
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 14:41 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 21:55 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:03 +0100
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| Date | 2026-03-19 14:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pgvsn$mdso$18@dont-email.me> |
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On 19/03/2026 13:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. >>>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. >>>>>> >>>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly >>>>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but Greece is >>>>>> just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which is not >>>>>> suitable for French Frying. >>>>> >>>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we don't >>>>> call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is tight, then >>>>> we use other oils. >>>> >>>> https://www.californiaoliveranch.com/articles/yes-you-can-deep-fry-with- >>>> evoo >>>> >>>> I only use olive oil but I don't deep fry stuff. Decades ago I used canola >>>> (rapeseed oil) that was promoted as heart healthy. I didn't use it very >>>> often and one day when I opened the bottle I realized it smelled like the >>>> linseed oil I use for wood finishing. >>> >>> Yes, and sunflower oil will do as well, [1] >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, >>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. >>> >> >> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. > > Jet fuel and diesel fuel are practically the same thing, > Slight differences in viscosity and additives > Jan > -- “Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of a car with the cramped public exposure of an airplane.” Dennis Miller
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 22:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rs8ikn.sljbm61sj5kr2N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83473 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 19/03/2026 13:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. > >>>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly > >>>>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but Greece is > >>>>>> just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which is not > >>>>>> suitable for French Frying. > >>>>> > >>>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we don't > >>>>> call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is tight, then > >>>>> we use other oils. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.californiaoliveranch.com/articles/yes-you-can-deep-fry-with- > >>>> evoo > >>>> > >>>> I only use olive oil but I don't deep fry stuff. Decades ago I used > >>>> canola (rapeseed oil) that was promoted as heart healthy. I didn't > >>>> use it very often and one day when I opened the bottle I realized it > >>>> smelled like the linseed oil I use for wood finishing. > >>> > >>> Yes, and sunflower oil will do as well, [1] > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, > >>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. > >>> > >> > >> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. > > > > Jet fuel and diesel fuel are practically the same thing, > > > Slight differences in viscosity and additives Yes, but if you start out with frying oil you can make both, (and they only mix in a small proportion) Jan
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 07:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pitih$1c5df$7@dont-email.me> |
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On 19/03/2026 21:32, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> Slight differences in viscosity and additives > Yes, but if you start out with frying oil you can make both, > (and they only mix in a small proportion) One of the most expensive ways to make fake fossil fuel -- The New Left are the people they warned you about.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 11:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <esiv8mx0u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83551 |
On 2026-03-20 08:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/03/2026 21:32, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Slight differences in viscosity and additives
>> Yes, but if you start out with frying oil you can make both,
>> (and they only mix in a small proportion)
>
> One of the most expensive ways to make fake fossil fuel
>
>
Hardly. I asked chatgpt:
Q: Can you compare for me the cost of making fuel for diesel engines
from used cooking oil, vs buying gasoil?
A: Here’s a **realistic, numbers-based comparison** for Spain/Europe
(close to your situation in Murcia), focusing specifically on **used
cooking oil (UCO) → biodiesel vs buying diesel (gasoil)**.
---
# 🛢️ 1. Current diesel (gasoil) cost
* Recent Spain figures (2026): about **€1.70–€1.85 per litre at the
pump** ([Reddit][1])
* Without taxes (wholesale): roughly **€0.80–€1.10/L equivalent**
depending on market conditions ([P Market Research][2])
👉 For a normal user, what matters is:
* **Real cost to you:** ~€1.7–1.8/L
---
# ♻️ 2. Cost of making biodiesel from used cooking oil
## A. Raw material (used cooking oil)
* Spain price:
* **€0.30–€0.60 per litre** (filtered)
* as low as **€0.10/L** if raw/unfiltered ([Plant In][3])
## B. Processing costs
You need:
* methanol + catalyst (NaOH/KOH)
* electricity/heat
* filtration, washing, drying
* equipment amortization
Typical small-scale estimate:
* **€0.20–€0.50 per litre**
## C. Total DIY biodiesel cost
👉 **Best case (cheap/free oil):**
* €0.30–€0.70 per litre
👉 **Typical realistic case (buying UCO):**
* €0.60–€1.10 per litre
👉 **Worst case (expensive oil + inefficiencies):**
* €1.20+/L
---
# 📊 3. Direct comparison
| Scenario | Cost per litre | vs diesel |
| ------------------------- | -------------- | ---------------------- |
| Diesel (pump) | €1.7–1.8 | baseline |
| DIY biodiesel (cheap oil) | €0.3–0.7 | ✅ much cheaper |
| DIY biodiesel (typical) | €0.6–1.1 | ✅ cheaper |
| Industrial biodiesel | often €1.2–2.0 | ❌ often more expensive |
---
# ⚠️ 4. Why results vary so much
## 1. Feedstock cost dominates everything
* If you get **free oil (restaurants, own use)** → very cheap fuel
* If you **buy UCO at €0.5/L** → savings shrink a lot
## 2. Scale matters
* Industrial biodiesel is often **more expensive than fossil diesel**
(70–130% higher in many cases) ([T&E][4])
* Small DIY avoids taxes, labor costs, and margins → can be cheaper
## 3. Diesel price volatility
* When oil prices spike, biodiesel can be **20–25% cheaper** ([P Market
Research][2])
* When oil prices fall, biodiesel may be **more expensive**
---
# ⚖️ 5. Hidden costs people often ignore
Even if the raw €/L looks good:
### Legal (important in Spain)
* Making fuel = **regulated activity**
* You may owe:
* fuel taxes
* certification requirements
👉 DIY use is often in a legal grey area
### Time & effort
* Collecting oil
* Filtering, processing (several hours per batch)
### Engine considerations
* Biodiesel (especially homemade):
* can clog filters
* may need engine modifications for high blends
---
# 🧠 Bottom line
👉 **If you have cheap or free used cooking oil:**
* You can realistically produce fuel at **€0.5–1.0/L**
* That’s **30–70% cheaper than diesel**
👉 **If you have to buy the oil:**
* Savings shrink or disappear
* Sometimes barely cheaper than diesel
👉 **At industrial scale:**
* Biodiesel is usually **more expensive than fossil diesel** unless
subsidized
---
# 💡 Simple rule of thumb
* **Free waste oil → worth it**
* **Paid oil → marginal**
* **Large-scale → usually not competitive without subsidies**
---
If you want, I can estimate your **exact cost per litre** based on your
setup (how much oil you can get, equipment, etc.).
[1]:
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1ryrilv/the_spanish_government_will_lower_the_vat_on/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
"The Spanish Government will lower the VAT on petrol, diesel,
electricity and gas to 10%."
[2]:
https://pmarketresearch.com/chemi/uco-biodiesel-market/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
"UCO Biodiesel Market - PW Consulting Chemical & Energy Research Center"
[3]:
https://plantin.alibaba.com/buyingguides/used-cooking-oil-in-spain?utm_source=chatgpt.com
"How to Choose Used Cooking Oil in Spain: A Complete Buyer's Guide"
[4]:
https://www.transportenvironment.org/articles/biofuels-are-twice-as-expensive-as-fossil-fuels?utm_source=chatgpt.com
"Biofuels twice as expensive as petrol and diesel in most cases | T&E"
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The Spanish Government will lower the VAT on petrol, diesel,
electricity and gas to 10%.
Today
P Market Research
UCO Biodiesel Market - PW Consulting Chemical & Energy Research Center
April 21, 2025
Plant In
How to Choose Used Cooking Oil in Spain: A Complete Buyer's Guide
January 31, 2026
T&E
Biofuels twice as expensive as petrol and diesel in most cases | T&E
June 30, 2022
More
argusmedia.com
Biodiesel premiums sink but EU cap curbs demand | Latest Market News
March 9, 2026 — BIODIESEL PREMIUMS SINK BUT EU CAP CURBS DEMAND *
Spanish Market: Biofuels * 09/03/26 Heavy gains in Ice gasoil futures
have pushed biodiesel premiums to their lowest levels in two years, but
the E...
alibaba.com
How To Choose Used Cooking Oil In Spain: A Complete Buyer's Guide
February 2, 2026 — HOW TO CHOOSE USED COOKING OIL IN SPAIN: A
COMPLETE BUYER'S GUIDE Image: Oliver Bennett Oliver Bennett • February
2, 2026 • 6 min read In Spain, used cooking oil (UCO)—often called
*aceite vegetal u...
renovablesverdes.com
The price of biodiesel for blending with diesel is set at
$1.436.861 per ton.
September 23, 2025 — THE PRICE OF BIODIESEL FOR BLENDING WITH
DIESEL IS SET AT $1.436.861 PER TON. * New minimum price for biodiesel
blending: $1.436.861 per ton (Resolution 377/2025). * Payment to
producers within a ma...
statista.com
Spain: biodiesel monthly price 2025| Statista
July 9, 2025 — MONTHLY PRICE OF BIODIESEL IN SPAIN 2020-2025
Published by Lucía Fernández, Jul 9, 2025 In March 2025, the average
consumer price for biodiesel was around **** euros per liter, while the
price befo...
mckinsey.com
Sustainable fuel: The Iberian green industrial opportunity | McKinsey
March 17, 2025 — 2. COST-COMPETITIVENESS TO DRIVE SUPPLY Spanish
biofuel producers face challenges, which include lower incentives in
comparison to other EU countries, threats from non-EU suppliers, and
changing feed...
nih.gov
Energy and cost analysis of bottom waste cooking oil (B-WCO) based
solid alcohol biofuel and supernatant waste cooking oil (S-WCO) based
biodiesel - PMC
January 23, 2025 — FIG. 2. Open in a new tab Energy use pattern (%)
S-WCO based biodiesel production. During SABF production, no waste is
generated. However, in biodiesel production, wastewater from the wet
washing s...
eib.org
Moeve’s new plant turns used vegetable oils into biofuel
December 2, 2024 — Image OIL OF A DIFFERENT ORIGIN €1.2 billion
plant will turn used vegetable oils and residues into biofuel that can
power heavy transport and aviation By 2 December 2024 Listen Read more
Hot, si...
energymonitor.ai
Biofuels now up to 130% more expensive than fossil fuels - T&E
July 13, 2022 — BIOFUELS NOW UP TO 130% MORE EXPENSIVE THAN FOSSIL
FUELS – T&E The rising price of feedstocks means biofuels are now adding
€17bn a year to Europe's fuel bill, finds a new study from NGO Transport
&...
sciencedirect.com
An approach to the economics of two vegetable oil-based biofuels in
Spain - ScienceDirect
July 1, 2006 — Data bank An approach to the economics of two
vegetable oil-based biofuels in Spain
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.renene.2005.06.010Get rights and content
ABSTRACT Biodiesel is a form of
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-19 22:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e26u8mxamc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83469 |
On 2026-03-19 14:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. >>>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. >>>>>> >>>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly >>>>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but Greece is >>>>>> just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which is not >>>>>> suitable for French Frying. >>>>> >>>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we don't >>>>> call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is tight, then >>>>> we use other oils. >>>> >>>> https://www.californiaoliveranch.com/articles/yes-you-can-deep-fry-with- >>>> evoo >>>> >>>> I only use olive oil but I don't deep fry stuff. Decades ago I used canola >>>> (rapeseed oil) that was promoted as heart healthy. I didn't use it very >>>> often and one day when I opened the bottle I realized it smelled like the >>>> linseed oil I use for wood finishing. >>> >>> Yes, and sunflower oil will do as well, [1] >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, >>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. >>> >> >> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. > > Jet fuel and diesel fuel are practically the same thing, Jet fuel is kerosene. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene> Kerosene is a low-viscosity, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum between 150 and 275 °C (300 and 525 °F), resulting in a mixture with a density of 0.78–0.81 g/cm3. It is miscible with petroleum solvents, but not with water. It is composed of hydrocarbon molecules that typically contain between 6 and 20 carbon atoms per molecule,[12] predominantly containing 9 to 16 carbon atoms.[13] Diesel fuel is gasoil. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel> Petroleum diesel is the most common type of diesel fuel. It is produced by the fractional distillation of crude oil between 200 and 350 °C (392 and 662 °F) at atmospheric pressure, resulting in a mixture of carbon chains that typically contain between 9 and 25 carbon atoms per molecule.[23] This fraction is subjected to hydrodesulfurization. Usually such "straight-run" diesel is insufficient in supply and quality, so other sources of diesel fuels are blended in. One major source of additional diesel fuel is obtained by cracking heavier fractions, using visbreaking and coking. This technology converts less useful fractions but the product contains olefins (alkenes) which require hydrogenation to give the saturated hydrocarbons as desired. Another refinery stream that contributes to diesel fuel is hydrocracking. Finally, kerosene is added to modify its viscosity.[24] -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-20 11:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rs9ms6.ywj5jv1nrkzm3N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83511 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-03-19 14:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. > >>>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly > >>>>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but Greece is > >>>>>> just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which is not > >>>>>> suitable for French Frying. > >>>>> > >>>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we don't > >>>>> call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is tight, then > >>>>> we use other oils. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.californiaoliveranch.com/articles/yes-you-can-deep-fry-with- > >>>> evoo > >>>> > >>>> I only use olive oil but I don't deep fry stuff. Decades ago I used > >>>> canola (rapeseed oil) that was promoted as heart healthy. I didn't > >>>> use it very often and one day when I opened the bottle I realized it > >>>> smelled like the linseed oil I use for wood finishing. > >>> > >>> Yes, and sunflower oil will do as well, [1] > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, > >>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. > >>> > >> > >> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. > > > > Jet fuel and diesel fuel are practically the same thing, > > Jet fuel is kerosene. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene> > > Kerosene is a low-viscosity, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons > obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum between 150 and > 275 °C (300 and 525 °F), resulting in a mixture with a density of > 0.78–0.81 g/cm3. It is miscible with petroleum solvents, but not with > water. It is composed of hydrocarbon molecules that typically contain > between 6 and 20 carbon atoms per molecule,[12] predominantly containing > 9 to 16 carbon atoms.[13] > > > Diesel fuel is gasoil. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel> > > Petroleum diesel is the most common type of diesel fuel. It is produced > by the fractional distillation of crude oil between 200 and 350 °C (392 > and 662 °F) at atmospheric pressure, resulting in a mixture of carbon > chains that typically contain between 9 and 25 carbon atoms per > molecule.[23] This fraction is subjected to hydrodesulfurization. > > Usually such "straight-run" diesel is insufficient in supply and > quality, so other sources of diesel fuels are blended in. One major > source of additional diesel fuel is obtained by cracking heavier > fractions, using visbreaking and coking. This technology converts less > useful fractions but the product contains olefins (alkenes) which > require hydrogenation to give the saturated hydrocarbons as desired. > Another refinery stream that contributes to diesel fuel is > hydrocracking. Finally, kerosene is added to modify its viscosity.[24] Yes, different names. It should be obvious that there is more overlap than difference, Jan
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-21 20:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pf839mx25s.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83573 |
On 2026-03-20 11:32, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-03-19 14:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. >>>>>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly >>>>>>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but Greece is >>>>>>>> just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which is not >>>>>>>> suitable for French Frying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we don't >>>>>>> call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is tight, then >>>>>>> we use other oils. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.californiaoliveranch.com/articles/yes-you-can-deep-fry-with- >>>>>> evoo >>>>>> >>>>>> I only use olive oil but I don't deep fry stuff. Decades ago I used >>>>>> canola (rapeseed oil) that was promoted as heart healthy. I didn't >>>>>> use it very often and one day when I opened the bottle I realized it >>>>>> smelled like the linseed oil I use for wood finishing. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, and sunflower oil will do as well, [1] >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, >>>>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. >>> >>> Jet fuel and diesel fuel are practically the same thing, >> >> Jet fuel is kerosene. >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene> >> >> Kerosene is a low-viscosity, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons >> obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum between 150 and >> 275 °C (300 and 525 °F), resulting in a mixture with a density of >> 0.78–0.81 g/cm3. It is miscible with petroleum solvents, but not with >> water. It is composed of hydrocarbon molecules that typically contain >> between 6 and 20 carbon atoms per molecule,[12] predominantly containing >> 9 to 16 carbon atoms.[13] >> >> >> Diesel fuel is gasoil. >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel> >> >> Petroleum diesel is the most common type of diesel fuel. It is produced >> by the fractional distillation of crude oil between 200 and 350 °C (392 >> and 662 °F) at atmospheric pressure, resulting in a mixture of carbon >> chains that typically contain between 9 and 25 carbon atoms per >> molecule.[23] This fraction is subjected to hydrodesulfurization. >> >> Usually such "straight-run" diesel is insufficient in supply and >> quality, so other sources of diesel fuels are blended in. One major >> source of additional diesel fuel is obtained by cracking heavier >> fractions, using visbreaking and coking. This technology converts less >> useful fractions but the product contains olefins (alkenes) which >> require hydrogenation to give the saturated hydrocarbons as desired. >> Another refinery stream that contributes to diesel fuel is >> hydrocracking. Finally, kerosene is added to modify its viscosity.[24] > > Yes, different names. > It should be obvious that there is more overlap than difference, Properties like ignition point, vaporization, etc, are different. They can have the same hidrocarbons, but the resulting mixture properties are different. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-03-21 22:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rscbqz.1tfb9f2c1qqviN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83652 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-03-20 11:32, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On 2026-03-19 14:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:00:26 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. > >>>>>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but > >>>>>>>> mostly in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease > >>>>>>>> but Greece is just another nation and it is famous for olive oil > >>>>>>>> which is not suitable for French Frying. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we > >>>>>>> don't call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is > >>>>>>> tight, then we use other oils. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.californiaoliveranch.com/articles/yes-you-can-deep-fry-with - > >>>>>> evoo > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I only use olive oil but I don't deep fry stuff. Decades ago I used > >>>>>> canola (rapeseed oil) that was promoted as heart healthy. I didn't > >>>>>> use it very often and one day when I opened the bottle I realized it > >>>>>> smelled like the linseed oil I use for wood finishing. > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, and sunflower oil will do as well, [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> Jan > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, > >>>>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. > >>> > >>> Jet fuel and diesel fuel are practically the same thing, > >> > >> Jet fuel is kerosene. > >> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene> > >> > >> Kerosene is a low-viscosity, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons > >> obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum between 150 and > >> 275 °C (300 and 525 °F), resulting in a mixture with a density of > >> 0.78–0.81 g/cm3. It is miscible with petroleum solvents, but not with > >> water. It is composed of hydrocarbon molecules that typically contain > >> between 6 and 20 carbon atoms per molecule,[12] predominantly containing > >> 9 to 16 carbon atoms.[13] > >> > >> > >> Diesel fuel is gasoil. > >> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel> > >> > >> Petroleum diesel is the most common type of diesel fuel. It is produced > >> by the fractional distillation of crude oil between 200 and 350 °C (392 > >> and 662 °F) at atmospheric pressure, resulting in a mixture of carbon > >> chains that typically contain between 9 and 25 carbon atoms per > >> molecule.[23] This fraction is subjected to hydrodesulfurization. > >> > >> Usually such "straight-run" diesel is insufficient in supply and > >> quality, so other sources of diesel fuels are blended in. One major > >> source of additional diesel fuel is obtained by cracking heavier > >> fractions, using visbreaking and coking. This technology converts less > >> useful fractions but the product contains olefins (alkenes) which > >> require hydrogenation to give the saturated hydrocarbons as desired. > >> Another refinery stream that contributes to diesel fuel is > >> hydrocracking. Finally, kerosene is added to modify its viscosity.[24] > > > > Yes, different names. > > It should be obvious that there is more overlap than difference, > > Properties like ignition point, vaporization, etc, are different. They > can have the same hidrocarbons, but the resulting mixture properties are > different. Slightly, yes. Generally speaking, jet fuel is the better quality stuff, mostly straight from the primary stream. The diesels have to make do with what is left over, Jan
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 15:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1rs855i.1gakxwst36h98N%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #83454 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: [...] > > [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, > > for recycling into bio jet fuel. > > > > Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. > ISTR there was a story about taxi drivers in Cardiff(?) using waste oil from fish & chip shops in their diesel taxis to avoid fuel duty. Customs and Excise inspectors detected its use by the distinctive chip-shop aroma emitted from their tailpipes. -- ^Ï^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 17:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10phd0v$tm0u$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83478 |
On 19/03/2026 15:24, Sn!pe wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > [...] > >>> [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, >>> for recycling into bio jet fuel. >>> >> >> Huh? Here it is collected, but for use as diesel fuel. >> > > ISTR there was a story about taxi drivers in Cardiff(?) using waste > oil from fish & chip shops in their diesel taxis to avoid fuel duty. > Customs and Excise inspectors detected its use by the distinctive > chip-shop aroma emitted from their tailpipes. > The fuel tax in the UK is so high that all sort of scams are profitable. Refined agricultural diesel, adding heating oil, a bit of refined veggie oil.... ...my farmer neighbour grows beans to make Houmous for the Turks, or canola to go into German Biofuel... Its ridiculous, but what pays, pays... -- Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 19:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n232rbFa0oqU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #83440 |
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 11:48:51 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote: > [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, > for recycling into bio jet fuel. There is sort of a biodiesel program here. The real problem with most of the recycling attempts is the lack of economic feasibility so it becomes an exercise in virtue signaling. https://derrickjensen.org/bright-green-lies/ Jensen is not attacking from the right. https://www.deepgreenresistance.org/
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 11:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rs9mwc.925qqq1fxooujN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83502 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 11:48:51 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > [1] In these parts used frying oil is being collected, > > for recycling into bio jet fuel. > > There is sort of a biodiesel program here. The real problem with most of > the recycling attempts is the lack of economic feasibility so it becomes > an exercise in virtue signaling. It is about small amounts anyway. And yes, greenwashing by airlines for example, on basis of small admixtures of 'bio', Jan
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 12:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pgplc$mdso$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83412 |
On 18/03/2026 23:49, rbowman wrote: > The story probably is an early example of non-internet rumors but it did > take a while for those new-fangled foods from America to become popular > like the potato and tomato. Then they were embraced with a passion, along > with tobacco. Potatoes probably had the biggest impact, feeding the > peasants on the cheap. I believe that that story is in fact true. Being able to feed the peasants was a two edged sword as the potato blight demonstrated The italians, however, took to tomatoes in a big way -- “People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of one’s suitability to be taken seriously.” Paul Krugman
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| From | Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 17:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mn.94207ea3ef742b04.127094@snitoo> |
| In reply to | #83396 |
Carlos E.R. suggested that ...
> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote:
>>>
>>> -- I was told that french fries are not cooked in France.
>>> The are cooked in Greece.
>>
>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly
>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but
>> Greece is just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which
>> is not suitable for French Frying.
>
> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we don't call
> them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is tight, then we use
> other oils.
Are they fried in a skillet with a slurp of olive oil, or in a basket
that immersed in olive oil?
/dps
--
Courage is knowing it might hurt, and doing it anyway.
Stupidity is the same.
And that's why life is hard.
-- the World Wide Web
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 03:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <p02s8mxbvs.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83417 |
On 2026-03-19 01:36, Snidely wrote: > Carlos E.R. suggested that ... >> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: >>>> >>>> -- I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. >>>> The are cooked in Greece. >>> >>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly >>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but >>> Greece is just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which >>> is not suitable for French Frying. >> >> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we >> don't call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is >> tight, then we use other oils. > > Are they fried in a skillet with a slurp of olive oil, or in a basket > that immersed in olive oil? A pan with 1 or 2 cm deep of oil, enough to submerge all the potatoes. If you have many potatoes, either more oil (and a bigger pan), or do two/three rounds. Yes, you can use a special pan with a basket. If you fill too much oil, you can make a mess in the kitchen, specially if the oil foams. Better a bigger pan and about half full, tops. Or, a small electric (deep) fryer. Mine takes about 2.5 litres, I think. Of course, in this case you don't change the oil till 20 or 30 uses. Should be a number of hours, but the instructions say "times". -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 19:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10pfm9d$c621$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83421 |
On 3/18/26 19:01, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-03-19 01:36, Snidely wrote: >> Carlos E.R. suggested that ... >>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: >>>>> >>>>> -- I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. >>>>> The are cooked in Greece. >>>> >>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly >>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but >>>> Greece is just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which >>>> is not suitable for French Frying. >>> >>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we >>> don't call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is >>> tight, then we use other oils. >> >> Are they fried in a skillet with a slurp of olive oil, or in a basket >> that immersed in olive oil? > > A pan with 1 or 2 cm deep of oil, enough to submerge all the potatoes. > If you have many potatoes, either more oil (and a bigger pan), or do > two/three rounds. Yes, you can use a special pan with a basket. > > If you fill too much oil, you can make a mess in the kitchen, specially > if the oil foams. Better a bigger pan and about half full, tops. > > Or, a small electric (deep) fryer. Mine takes about 2.5 litres, I think. > Of course, in this case you don't change the oil till 20 or 30 uses. > Should be a number of hours, but the instructions say "times". > You should change the oil more frequently than that which is why I do half deep frying in a couple of centimeters of oil and make sure to turn the potatos, cased prawns(just very large shrimp), cased fish and other foods. I might use the oil twice or three times at most because the oil undergoes a process that makes it less of an edible and more of a slow poison. Because oil is expensive I don't do this often. bliss
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 13:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <887t8mxep4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83422 |
On 2026-03-19 03:16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 3/18/26 19:01, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-03-19 01:36, Snidely wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. suggested that ... >>>> On 2026-03-18 17:40, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/18/26 09:16, lar3ryca wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> -- I was told that french fries are not cooked in France. >>>>>> The are cooked in Greece. >>>>> >>>>> French fries are cooked in oil, beef tallow or lard but mostly >>>>> in Belgium. You can call the oleagenous substance grease but >>>>> Greece is just another nation and it is famous for olive oil which >>>>> is not suitable for French Frying. >>>> >>>> In Spain we do fry them in olive oil and we love them, although we >>>> don't call them "French". Just fried potatoes. If your budget is >>>> tight, then we use other oils. >>> >>> Are they fried in a skillet with a slurp of olive oil, or in a basket >>> that immersed in olive oil? >> >> A pan with 1 or 2 cm deep of oil, enough to submerge all the potatoes. >> If you have many potatoes, either more oil (and a bigger pan), or do >> two/three rounds. Yes, you can use a special pan with a basket. >> >> If you fill too much oil, you can make a mess in the kitchen, >> specially if the oil foams. Better a bigger pan and about half full, >> tops. >> >> Or, a small electric (deep) fryer. Mine takes about 2.5 litres, I >> think. Of course, in this case you don't change the oil till 20 or 30 >> uses. Should be a number of hours, but the instructions say "times". >> > > You should change the oil more frequently than that which is why I > do half deep frying in a couple of centimeters of oil and make sure to > turn the potatos, cased prawns(just very large shrimp), cased fish and > other foods. I might use the oil twice or three times at most because > the oil undergoes a process that makes it less of an edible and more of > a slow poison. Because oil is expensive I don't do this often. In the fryer I limit the temperature to 180°C for that reason. > > bliss > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 18:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <DMBuR.186368$mz3.141473@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #83369 |
On 2026-03-18, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote: > On 2026-03-18 00:15, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> My beef with daylight time is astronomical: the very definition >> of noon (i.e. mid-day) is when the sun is at its highest point >> in the sky - which is no longer true when the clocks jump ahead >> an hour. Fields which need a stable clock - e.g. aviation - >> use UTC, but then I have to remember that our time zone offset >> changes from -8 hours to -7. > > As you probably know, Saskatchewan is always UTC-6, defined as Central > Standard time. As a result, we (well, I) look forward to the rest of the > country and the USA doing away with the time changes. I'd like that too. Unfortunately, the tendency seems to be to stay with daylight time rather than standard time. Our B.C. premier (and wannabe dictator), David Eby, unilaterally declared that we are now on permanent daylight time. The original argument was that the western states (Washington, Oregon, and California) were contemplating doing this and that B.C. should remain in step with them. But Eby couldn't help but jump the gun. > You mentioned local noon. When we lived in the farm (40km east of > Regina) I noticed that when I looked south at noon, the sun was not > lined up with the north/south road we were on. Turns out local (true) > noon, is close to an hour after the CST noon. When dividing the country up into regions that are (nominally) 15 degrees wide, there are bound to be discontinuities at the borders. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 00:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pffn7$a6vi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83375 |
On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 18:02:11 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Our B.C. premier (and wannabe dictator), David Eby, unilaterally > declared that we are now on permanent daylight time. That doesn’t sound very wise to me. Daylight saving has a point if you are far enough from the equator for it to make a difference. Trying to stick to one timezone offset for the whole year in such a region will cause its own problems.
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| From | lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 22:48 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <10pfv7e$efa2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83415 |
On 2026-03-18 18:24, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 18:02:11 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Our B.C. premier (and wannabe dictator), David Eby, unilaterally >> declared that we are now on permanent daylight time. > > That doesn’t sound very wise to me. > > Daylight saving has a point if you are far enough from the equator for > it to make a difference. Trying to stick to one timezone offset for > the whole year in such a region will cause its own problems. It hasn't for Saskatchewan, despite the arguments that it would throw off the cow's milk production. Well, the only problem we have is that the rest of the country chances times twice per year and TV from different provinces change when they air here. -- F U N E X? E S. V F X. F U N E M? E S. V F M. O K I L F M N X.
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