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| First post | 2026-03-03 06:54 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-04-01 14:03 +0100 |
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GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 06:54 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-02 23:23 -0800
Re: GNU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 02:52 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 10:55 +0000
Re: GNU Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-03-03 10:59 +0000
Re: GNU Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-03-03 13:24 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 14:55 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 18:50 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 11:13 -0800
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 02:56 +0000
Re: GNU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 00:12 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 11:52 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:00 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 08:01 -0800
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-04 17:06 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 09:11 -0800
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:18 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:05 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-04 19:37 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:16 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-05 02:52 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 21:00 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-05 23:49 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:22 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 11:03 +1100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:10 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:23 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 17:00 +0100
Re: GNU Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-06 12:08 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:21 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 09:59 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-07 06:36 +0200
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 18:54 -0600
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:12 +0100
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 20:45 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 01:11 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 03:06 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:12 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:16 +0100
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 10:00 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 20:41 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 21:27 +0000
Re: GNU richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-06 21:32 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 21:46 +0000
Re: GNU "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-03-06 21:56 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-07 09:10 +1100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 22:25 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 17:06 -0800
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 05:52 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 07:14 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:25 +0000
Re: GNU Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2026-03-07 08:50 -0800
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 15:11 -0600
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 22:54 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:40 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:13 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 21:43 -0800
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 18:16 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-08 09:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 11:57 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 15:08 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:13 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:12 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:13 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 14:01 -0800
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:44 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:22 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:26 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:01 -0500
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:19 +1100
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 05:59 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 19:27 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 09:20 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:10 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 17:26 -0700
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 07:47 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-09 21:09 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 13:56 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 02:58 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 04:34 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 14:36 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:36 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-07 06:43 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 15:38 +1100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:17 +0100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:57 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 10:06 +0000
Re: GNU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-06 18:24 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:21 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:26 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:04 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:23 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 23:07 -0600
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 23:14 -0600
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 05:17 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:20 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 16:30 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:23 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 17:38 +1100
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:58 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 22:47 +1100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 12:48 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:33 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:44 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:34 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-07 12:20 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:41 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:55 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:46 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 16:12 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:20 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:53 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:12 -0500
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 21:31 -0500
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:35 +1100
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-08 12:26 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 09:28 +1100
Re: GNU Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-03-07 14:03 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 14:16 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:51 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:52 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:45 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 21:32 -0500
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:54 +0100
Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-03-07 14:02 +0000
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 22:52 +0000
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-08 14:27 +0100
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:39 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 11:44 -0600
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:41 +1100
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-08 21:00 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:49 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:32 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-07 15:50 +1100
Re: GNU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-07 11:02 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 21:56 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:50 +1100
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-08 02:06 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 19:30 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:31 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:22 +0100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 12:46 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:01 +0100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:57 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:48 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:13 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:07 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 07:33 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 07:36 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 09:06 +0100
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-08 20:35 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:59 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 14:03 +0000
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:10 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:16 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 08:49 -0800
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 15:06 -0600
Re: GNU richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-07 21:30 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 16:35 -0500
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:34 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 20:10 -0500
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:55 -0700
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-09 00:27 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-08 22:02 -0600
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 16:12 -0800
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 01:05 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 21:30 -0800
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 16:52 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 14:28 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:32 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:21 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:59 +1100
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 09:43 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:27 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 23:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 22:40 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 07:39 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 07:39 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 09:12 +0100
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 08:59 -0400
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 17:44 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 11:42 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 17:52 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 19:51 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:23 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 20:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 13:59 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:32 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:46 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 10:02 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:19 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 14:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 20:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 23:57 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 00:31 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 05:00 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-09 22:48 +1300
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-09 10:14 +0100
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-10 09:32 +0200
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 09:10 -0700
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-09 01:16 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:58 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 01:07 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 06:22 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 08:00 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 10:09 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-09 06:16 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 06:24 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-09 06:54 +0000
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-09 07:37 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-10 09:37 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-10 10:37 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-11 10:09 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-10 13:25 +0000
Re: GNU Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-10 14:26 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-10 19:35 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-10 15:49 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:54 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:07 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 12:11 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 07:07 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 07:50 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-16 22:03 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:00 +0000
Re: GNU Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-17 18:08 +0000
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:28 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-16 10:36 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-16 08:58 +0100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:28 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-16 09:34 +1300
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-15 22:23 +0100
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 23:38 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-15 21:24 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 12:56 +0000
Re: GNU Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-16 12:27 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-15 22:27 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 13:29 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 06:29 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 17:52 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-16 00:32 -0700
Re: GNU Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-16 12:41 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 08:55 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-17 10:03 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 01:01 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-17 08:18 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 19:03 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-17 12:27 -0700
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Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-17 22:18 +0100
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Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 11:56 +0200
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Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:20 +0200
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Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 20:15 +0200
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:14 +0200
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-04-01 16:11 +0200
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Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 05:37 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 04:17 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:01 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 09:02 -0700
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:32 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 10:45 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-04-01 11:44 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 21:01 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 07:24 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-01 15:15 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 02:54 +0000
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Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:21 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 16:49 -0700
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 01:24 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 03:19 +0200
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Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-31 20:33 +1100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:12 +0200
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:04 +0200
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:03 +0200
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 09:01 -0400
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:32 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:38 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:20 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:07 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:35 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:41 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 11:06 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:27 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:25 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 21:05 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:37 +0100
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 09:49 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 21:06 +0100
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Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 12:23 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:37 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 20:18 +0200
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-01 15:22 -0700
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 18:58 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:38 +0100
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-04-03 21:56 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:27 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 19:17 +0000
Steam "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:14 +0200
Re: Steam c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:25 -0400
Re: Steam rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 00:45 +0000
Re: Steam c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:46 -0400
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-01 15:25 -0700
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 19:00 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:52 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:39 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 20:32 -0400
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 06:56 +0000
Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-03 10:47 +0200
Re: GNU "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-04-03 12:21 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:16 +0100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-04 00:19 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 05:34 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:58 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:39 +0100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-02 14:33 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 14:59 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:03 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:54 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 13:43 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 23:49 +0000
OT Train travel Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:30 +0200
Re: OT Train travel The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:31 +0100
Re: OT Train travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 13:47 +0200
Re: OT Train travel Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 14:37 +0200
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-02 18:55 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-04-02 20:29 +0100
Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 14:27 -0700
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 08:15 +0200
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:21 +0100
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 14:32 +0200
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:58 -0400
Re: Steamrollers nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-04 11:07 +0200
Re: Steamrollers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:42 +0200
Re: Steamrollers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:22 -0400
Re: Steamrollers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:34 +0000
Re: Steamrollers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:32 +0000
chip and seal (was: Steamrollers) Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> - 2026-04-05 13:36 +0000
Re: chip and seal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:49 +0200
Re: chip and seal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:46 +0100
Re: chip and seal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:13 +0000
Re: chip and seal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-06 13:17 +0200
Re: chip and seal - and African roads Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-04-07 20:33 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 20:08 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-02 13:52 -0700
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-04 01:47 +0100
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:33 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 09:56 +0100
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-04-03 22:04 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:32 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 23:56 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 05:29 +0000
School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-02 05:33 +0200
Re: School stories rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:33 +0000
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:16 +0200
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:45 +0100
Re: School stories Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-04-03 18:00 +0100
Re: School stories athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 18:58 +0000
Re: School stories Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 15:59 -0400
Re: School stories rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 00:35 +0000
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:26 +0100
Re: School stories Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-04-04 18:56 +0100
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:19 -0700
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-04 03:22 +0200
Re: School stories Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 23:46 -0400
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-05 05:27 +0200
Re: School stories Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 08:52 +0100
Re: School stories "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:50 +0200
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:28 -0700
Re: School stories "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:07 +0200
Re: School stories John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 07:45 -0700
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-07 05:44 +0200
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 21:01 -0700
Re: School stories Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:24 +0000
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:32 -0700
Re: School stories Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2026-04-16 23:05 -0700
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:43 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:24 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:29 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-04-01 11:51 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 04:40 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 22:35 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:38 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 05:35 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 21:50 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:22 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:32 +0100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 22:39 -0700
Fountain pens (was: Re: GNU) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 07:00 +0100
Re: Fountain pens (was: Re: GNU) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:42 +0000
Re: Fountain pens c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-31 21:36 -0400
Re: Fountain pens "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:30 +0200
Re: Fountain pens Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:22 +0100
Re: Fountain pens "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:12 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-31 20:36 +1100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:33 +0200
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:39 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:43 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:43 +0200
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 14:41 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 21:55 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:03 +0100
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| Date | 2026-03-17 19:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pc8ua$361qb$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83244 |
On 17/03/2026 16:26, John Ames wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 08:51:39 +0000 > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>> "Eugenic" notions of gene-pool quality as rbowman seems to espouse >>> have precious little to do with genetic diversity or long-term >>> population advantages and much more to do with lending the weight >>> of pseudo- scientific authority to old established prejudices. >>> >>> If you just pretend that "criminal" or other "undesirable" traits >>> are hereditary, it gets real easy to tar a whole *group* you don't >>> like with that brush, just by claiming they had some Very Assuredly >>> Real defect of ancestry back in the mists of time, and your own >>> bigotry is therefore rendered Logical And Objectively Correct. >>> Amazing how that works! >> >> How quaint. >> The gene pool speaks > > Sure does! (as the legally-blind left eye I got from my maternal grand- > father can attest.) It's just funny how the list of supposedly "hered- > itary" behavioral defects claimed about Group B by Group A lines up so > neatly with the things Group A was already saying about Group B when > Gregor Mendel was still toddling around a farmhouse in Silesia. Mighty > convenient, that. > It is currently Unwoke to say it, but every place on Earth ends up with a gene pool adapted to survive there as well as a set of cultural mores that are not hereditary. For some reason people refuse to accept these facts -- “It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.” ― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-16 23:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pa2nb$2dmau$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83143 |
On 2026-03-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 3/16/26 13:40, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:19:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 16/03/2026 13:13, Rich Ulrich wrote: >>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 12:55:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher >>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 15/03/2026 22:27, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>>> We USAians are a stubborn lot, and since England and Europe >>>>>> in >>>>>> general sent a lot of criminals here we likely are more stubborn than >>>>>> most so we cling to our own system of measurements in many respects >>>>> >>>>> Actually that was Australia. We *sent* the criminals there. >>>>> >>>>> America was colonised by people fleeing from justice, or sufficiently >>>>> religiously intolerant that they were shunned in Europe, or people so >>>>> poor that even America looked attractive...In short the dregs of >>>>> Europe. >>>> >>>> As I remember reading, Australia became interesting to the British when >>>> America's revolution made it useful to find a substitute place to send >>>> those criminals. >>>> >>> True, After that the African nations SOLD their criminals and prisoners >>> of war to America. >>> >>> Further degrading the gene pool :-) > > Nonsense they also sent along rivals to claimants of > leadership and their families. > Rubio in Florida wants to pretend that the Africans learned > useful skills in the USA > but they sent us blacksmiths, woodworkers, musicians, priests and > learned people in > the Koran, other skills and rice farmers. > The Gene Pool was improved by the these imports of human beings. > The plantation owners wasted these folks on manual labor in the fields. > The weath of the nation was built by the African American slaves and > subsequently by freedmen. Under slavery and under the Black Codes also > called "Jim Crow" a fascistic regime was imposed on African descended > people. > >>> >>>> Locating where they were at sea was much improved by more accurate >>>> clocks -- finding Australia after sailing acros the Indian Ocean had >>>> been a bit problematic before they knew where they were, east-west. >>>> >>>> >>> Since Australia the same size as the USA (excluding Alaska/Hawaii) I >>> find that problematic... >> >> True, but it's really, really hard to miss the Americas sailing west. >> > But in those days sailing in any open direction was problematic due to > the small ships and the lack of later navigational instruments. It > still is not > easy as the Oceans and seas present enormous challenges then and now. I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 10:27 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pa3lt$2edlk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83153 |
On 17/03/26 10:11, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-03-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> But in those days sailing in any open direction was problematic due >> to the small ships and the lack of later navigational instruments. >> It still is not easy as the Oceans and seas present enormous >> challenges then and now. > > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there > astronomical tools that allowed at least some degree of position > awareness? Those tools helped to work out their latitude. Longitude was a lot more difficult; it had to wait until more accurate clocks were developed. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 01:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1rp0nF60hrU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #83153 |
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 23:11:33 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote: > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? Latitude was easy, longitude difficult without an accurate chronometer.
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 10:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20260317103346.6609cec5c119c3e4bf6c0105@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #83178 |
On 17 Mar 2026 01:27:51 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 23:11:33 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote: > > > > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? > > Latitude was easy, longitude difficult without an accurate chronometer. It's quite? famous book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_(book) [Spoilers] It was John Harrison wot dun it. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 02:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhom8mxs5c.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83153 |
On 2026-03-17 00:11, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-03-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> On 3/16/26 13:40, rbowman wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:19:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 16/03/2026 13:13, Rich Ulrich wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 12:55:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher >>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>> Since Australia the same size as the USA (excluding Alaska/Hawaii) I >>>> find that problematic... >>> >>> True, but it's really, really hard to miss the Americas sailing west. >>> >> But in those days sailing in any open direction was problematic due to >> the small ships and the lack of later navigational instruments. It >> still is not >> easy as the Oceans and seas present enormous challenges then and now. > > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? The North-South position you can determine by looking at the position (height) of the Sun at local noon (you need to know the date and have some tables). But to know the East-West position, you need to look at what hour is the local noon. The stars give similar information. So you need an accurate clock that keeps the correct time for months. I do not know if it is possible to calculate the position of a land without a chronometer (or a radio), somehow. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 02:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pag33$2i6gt$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83183 |
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 02:49:11 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I do not know if it is possible to calculate the position of a land > without a chronometer (or a radio), somehow. There is theoretically a way involving observations of the Moon. It’s quite complicated, especially if you’re trying to do it without modern calculating devices. When John Harrison offered up his chronometers to be considered for the prize under the Longitude Act, the astronomers on the judging panel were clearly biased against mechanical devices: they kept trying to prove the lunar observation method, even after repeated failures to do it properly.
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| From | Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 23:08 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <10pb97o$2qb4j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83186 |
On 17/03/2026 3:59 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 02:49:11 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I do not know if it is possible to calculate the position of a land >> without a chronometer (or a radio), somehow. > > There is theoretically a way involving observations of the Moon. It’s > quite complicated, especially if you’re trying to do it without modern > calculating devices. And, unlike latitude, cannot possibly be done from a ship at sea. When Andrew Sharp (Discovery of the Pacific Islands, 1960) attempted to identify the many small islands sighted (but generally not visited) by Spanish navigators crossing and recrossing the Pacific in the 16th century, he found that their latitudes were usually accurate enough to identify the island, even where their longitudes (arrived at by dead reckoning) were hundreds of miles off. > > When John Harrison offered up his chronometers to be considered for > the prize under the Longitude Act, the astronomers on the judging > panel were clearly biased against mechanical devices: they kept trying > to prove the lunar observation method, even after repeated failures to > do it properly. >
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 13:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rs492j.1skf24w1c7x012N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83183 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-03-17 00:11, Nuno Silva wrote: > > On 2026-03-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > >> On 3/16/26 13:40, rbowman wrote: > >>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:19:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 16/03/2026 13:13, Rich Ulrich wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 12:55:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher > >>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > > >>>>> > >>>> Since Australia the same size as the USA (excluding Alaska/Hawaii) I > >>>> find that problematic... > >>> > >>> True, but it's really, really hard to miss the Americas sailing west. > >>> > >> But in those days sailing in any open direction was problematic due to > >> the small ships and the lack of later navigational instruments. It > >> still is not > >> easy as the Oceans and seas present enormous challenges then and now. > > > > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? > > The North-South position you can determine by looking at the position > (height) of the Sun at local noon (you need to know the date and have > some tables). But to know the East-West position, you need to look at > what hour is the local noon. The stars give similar information. So you > need an accurate clock that keeps the correct time for months. > > I do not know if it is possible to calculate the position of a land > without a chronometer (or a radio), somehow. Of course it is possible, by astronomical observation. That is why the English and others set up observatories in strategic locations. (such as Cape Town, Jamaica, etc.) In harbour near an observatory captains could take the time signals in order to know how far theur chronometer(s) had drifted, [1] Jan [1] The noon gun at Cape Town is still being fired daily. It is the last surviving one of its kind, and also the oldest surviving and still functional guns.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 15:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ib5o8mx1p1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83232 |
On 2026-03-17 13:24, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-03-17 00:11, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2026-03-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/16/26 13:40, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:19:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 16/03/2026 13:13, Rich Ulrich wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 12:55:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher >>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Since Australia the same size as the USA (excluding Alaska/Hawaii) I >>>>>> find that problematic... >>>>> >>>>> True, but it's really, really hard to miss the Americas sailing west. >>>>> >>>> But in those days sailing in any open direction was problematic due to >>>> the small ships and the lack of later navigational instruments. It >>>> still is not >>>> easy as the Oceans and seas present enormous challenges then and now. >>> >>> I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was >>> never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical >>> tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? >> >> The North-South position you can determine by looking at the position >> (height) of the Sun at local noon (you need to know the date and have >> some tables). But to know the East-West position, you need to look at >> what hour is the local noon. The stars give similar information. So you >> need an accurate clock that keeps the correct time for months. >> >> I do not know if it is possible to calculate the position of a land >> without a chronometer (or a radio), somehow. > > Of course it is possible, by astronomical observation. > That is why the English and others set up observatories > in strategic locations. (such as Cape Town, Jamaica, etc.) > > In harbour near an observatory captains could take the time signals > in order to know how far theur chronometer(s) had drifted, [1] > > Jan > > [1] The noon gun at Cape Town is still being fired daily. > It is the last surviving one of its kind, > and also the oldest surviving and still functional guns. I asked ChatGPT. In the past, say XIX century, ships calculated their longitude by comparing the local noon time with a cronometer. Was there some way to calculate the precise longitude in a land, without depending on a precise cronometer? Yes — and interestingly, the problem of determining longitude on land was solved in several ways that didn’t rely on carrying a super-precise chronometer like sailors did. The key idea is always the same: **longitude = time difference from a reference meridian**. At sea, that required a clock. On land, you could sometimes *replace the clock with other synchronized phenomena or astronomical observations*. Here are the main methods used in the 18th–19th centuries: --- ## 1. Astronomical events observed simultaneously Instead of carrying time, you could **observe an event whose timing is predictable everywhere**. ### Examples: * Eclipses of Jupiter’s moons * Lunar eclipses * Occultations (when the Moon covers a star) These events were tabulated in advance (for example in the Nautical Almanac). **How it worked:** * You observe the exact local time of the event. * Compare it with the predicted time at a reference meridian (e.g., Greenwich). * The time difference → longitude. 👉 This method was used earlier (17th–18th century), but it had limitations: * Required telescopes and clear skies * Some events were rare or hard to time precisely --- ## 2. The Lunar Distance Method This was one of the most important non-chronometer techniques. **Idea:** Measure the angle between the Moon and a star or the Sun. * The Moon moves quickly (~13° per day), so its position acts like a clock. * Tables predicted these angles for every hour at Greenwich. **Process:** 1. Measure the angular distance between the Moon and a known star. 2. Correct for observational errors. 3. Compare with tables → gives Greenwich time. 4. Compare with your local solar time → longitude. This method was widely used both at sea and on land before chronometers became common. --- ## 3. Transported time (but less precise clocks) On land, you could **transport time more easily than at sea**. * Carry a clock from a known observatory (like Royal Observatory Greenwich). * Even if it drifted slightly, you could: * Recalibrate it at intermediate stations * Use multiple clocks and average them This was often used in geodetic surveys. --- ## 4. Telegraph synchronization (19th century breakthrough) Once the telegraph appeared, longitude determination became dramatically easier. * Observatories in different cities sent time signals via telegraph. * Observers recorded local noon or star transits. * Comparing signals gave longitude differences **to very high precision**. This became the standard for mapping and surveying in the late 1800s. --- ## 5. Triangulation (indirect method) Sometimes longitude wasn’t measured astronomically at every point. * First determine longitude precisely at a few key observatories. * Then extend positions across land using **triangulation networks**. This was how large parts of Europe were mapped in the 18th–19th centuries. --- ## Bottom line Yes — on land, you didn’t strictly need a precision chronometer because you could: * Use **predictable celestial events** * Use the **Moon as a moving clock** * Synchronize time via **telegraph** * Or avoid direct measurement through **triangulation** At sea, these alternatives were much harder, which is why the chronometer (famously solved by John Harrison) became so crucial for navigation. --- If you want, I can walk you through a concrete example (like actually computing longitude using lunar distances) — it’s surprisingly hands-on and quite clever. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-16 21:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10pamk4$2k6op$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83153 |
On 3/16/26 16:11, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-03-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> On 3/16/26 13:40, rbowman wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:19:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 16/03/2026 13:13, Rich Ulrich wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 12:55:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher >>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/03/2026 22:27, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>>>> We USAians are a stubborn lot, and since England and Europe >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> general sent a lot of criminals here we likely are more stubborn than >>>>>>> most so we cling to our own system of measurements in many respects >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually that was Australia. We *sent* the criminals there. >>>>>> >>>>>> America was colonised by people fleeing from justice, or sufficiently >>>>>> religiously intolerant that they were shunned in Europe, or people so >>>>>> poor that even America looked attractive...In short the dregs of >>>>>> Europe. >>>>> >>>>> As I remember reading, Australia became interesting to the British when >>>>> America's revolution made it useful to find a substitute place to send >>>>> those criminals. >>>>> >>>> True, After that the African nations SOLD their criminals and prisoners >>>> of war to America. >>>> >>>> Further degrading the gene pool :-) >> >> Nonsense they also sent along rivals to claimants of >> leadership and their families. >> Rubio in Florida wants to pretend that the Africans learned >> useful skills in the USA >> but they sent us blacksmiths, woodworkers, musicians, priests and >> learned people in >> the Koran, other skills and rice farmers. >> The Gene Pool was improved by the these imports of human beings. >> The plantation owners wasted these folks on manual labor in the fields. >> The weath of the nation was built by the African American slaves and >> subsequently by freedmen. Under slavery and under the Black Codes also >> called "Jim Crow" a fascistic regime was imposed on African descended >> people. >> >>>> >>>>> Locating where they were at sea was much improved by more accurate >>>>> clocks -- finding Australia after sailing acros the Indian Ocean had >>>>> been a bit problematic before they knew where they were, east-west. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Since Australia the same size as the USA (excluding Alaska/Hawaii) I >>>> find that problematic... >>> >>> True, but it's really, really hard to miss the Americas sailing west. >>> >> But in those days sailing in any open direction was problematic due to >> the small ships and the lack of later navigational instruments. It >> still is not >> easy as the Oceans and seas present enormous challenges then and now. > > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? > Some but not enough until the English invented the very reliable chronographs to measure time on board ship. There are I believe more than one PBS science and technology in History show that references this. A very large prize had been offered by the UK authorities for such a device. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 06:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1saatF8cniU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #83188 |
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 21:51:15 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Some but not enough until the English invented the very reliable > chronographs to measure time on board ship. There are I believe more > than one PBS science and technology in History show that references > this. A very large prize had been offered by the UK authorities for > such a device. The 20th century analog led to the GPS system. If you're a ballistic missile submarine it really helps if you know where you are. Inertial guidance systems have become more sophisticated and can do in flight correction. https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/shipshape/satellite-navigation-was- created-submarine-based-nuclear-war/
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 08:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pb538$2obtv$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83188 |
On 17/03/2026 04:51, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Some but not enough until the English invented the very reliable > chronographs to > measure time on board ship. There are I believe more than one PBS > science and technology in History show that references this. A very > large prize had been offered > by the UK authorities for such a device. Actually the prize was offered for a method. Expected to be astronomical. They refused to award it to a mechanical device constricted by a mere - ahem - *artisan*... -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 08:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pb4tq$2obtv$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83153 |
On 16/03/2026 23:11, Nuno Silva wrote: > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? The sextant allowed easy calculation of latitude, because that is a direct function of the height of the midday sun. Plus knowing the day of the year. But you need accurate time - of midday or sunrise etc - to tell longitude. Which is why, in general ships arrived at the correct latitude of their destination and then sailed until they got there. -- The higher up the mountainside The greener grows the grass. The higher up the monkey climbs The more he shows his arse. Traditional
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 13:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rs49j9.1hnmq5sc35q95N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83213 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 16/03/2026 23:11, Nuno Silva wrote: > > I'm a bit rusty in my knowledge of these topics (and it probably was > > never that much knowledge to begin with), but weren't there astronomical > > tools that allowed at least some degree of position awareness? > > The sextant allowed easy calculation of latitude, because that is a > direct function of the height of the midday sun. Plus knowing the day of > the year. > > But you need accurate time - of midday or sunrise etc - to tell longitude. > Which is why, in general ships arrived at the correct latitude of their > destination and then sailed until they got there. Or they crashed into the West coast of Australia when turning North again too late, Jan
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 18:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1tmf1FdsucU13@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #83234 |
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:24:34 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Or they crashed into the West coast of Australia when turning North > again too late, Turning too early is dangerous too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 22:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pcmbu$3bduk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83234 |
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:24:34 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Or they crashed into the West coast of Australia when turning North > again too late, Old sailors’ tip†: if there’s land under your keel instead of sea, then maybe you should back up a bit before turning ... †That I just made up
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 03:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u0ep8mxohl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #83276 |
On 2026-03-17 23:59, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:24:34 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> Or they crashed into the West coast of Australia when turning North >> again too late, > > Old sailors’ tip†: if there’s land under your keel instead of sea, then > maybe you should back up a bit before turning ... > > †That I just made up It is been ages since I see that type of symbols on footnotes! -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 04:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pd83b$3gqrr$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #83293 |
On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 03:07:58 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > It is been ages since I see that type of symbols on footnotes! Just another in the great treasure chest of goodies that is Unicode ... 🥂
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 14:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1rs650h.12bdjjhjsz165N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #83276 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:24:34 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > Or they crashed into the West coast of Australia when turning North > > again too late, > > Old sailors' tip†: if there's land under your keel instead of sea, then > maybe you should back up a bit before turning ... > > †That I just made up Dutch has the old proverb: "Een schip op het strand is een baken op zee" (a ship on the beach is a beacon at sea) It is usually ignored, Jan
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