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Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?

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First post2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
Last post2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
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  Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 11:31 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:15 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:32 +0100
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:08 -0500
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-09 19:51 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:38 -0500
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:35 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 12:50 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:57 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 23:58 -0500
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 11:25 +0000
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 12:48 +0000
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 23:29 -0500
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-09 09:18 -0800
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 20:13 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:47 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:09 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:15 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:23 +0000
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 01:03 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 10:57 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-11 20:50 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:38 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-12 16:38 -0800
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 04:29 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-13 05:07 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:09 -0500
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:42 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:37 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:46 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 05:31 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:00 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 02:08 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:55 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:30 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:56 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:54 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:17 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 10:38 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:20 +0100
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:50 -0500
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:18 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 00:54 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:28 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:25 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:35 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:49 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:49 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:31 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:33 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-11 21:07 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:21 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:13 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 05:40 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:20 -0500
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:31 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:39 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 19:48 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:53 +0100
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 23:51 -0500
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:40 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:01 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:27 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-11-12 12:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 14:17 +0100
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:51 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:38 +0100
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 21:30 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 04:21 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:10 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 02:51 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:08 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:40 +0100
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 16:26 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 19:22 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-14 17:34 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:54 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:37 +0100
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 16:09 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 02:05 +0000
                                        Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-15 09:59 +0000
                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 17:32 +0000
                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-15 18:48 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 21:38 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 22:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 23:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-16 00:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-16 09:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:38 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-18 03:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 13:11 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 03:43 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:47 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:30 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-17 11:39 -0500
                                                Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:31 -0500
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 02:32 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 21:51 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:11 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 05:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-16 12:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 19:57 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-18 08:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-18 12:09 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:56 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:01 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:27 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 10:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 23:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 23:18 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 00:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:27 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 05:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-18 20:04 +0100
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-18 20:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 08:24 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 21:14 +0000
                                                                    ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-15 and their names (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-21 19:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-22 10:23 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
                                                                          Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
                                                                                    Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                                                                                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
                                                                                          Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
                                                                                                        EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:34 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:24 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:47 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
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                                                                                                                      Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 18:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:26 +0100
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                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
                                                                                                            Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:56 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:52 +0100
                                                                          Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-05 01:59 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:05 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-22 20:25 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:02 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:16 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:18 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:38 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:15 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:37 +0100
                                                                ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2025-11-19 14:58 +0100
                                                                  Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-20 02:09 +0000
                                                                    Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-19 20:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 08:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-11-21 12:24 +0100
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-19 13:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-23 16:25 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-25 10:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:05 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 23:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                                                                                            Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                                                                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                                                                                                  Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                  The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
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#78097 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<10gh6oj$83hq$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78073
On 29/11/2025 19:45, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 11/29/25 04:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/11/2025 21:10, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>> UTF-16 has neither advantage. Upgrading from ASCII can’t be done
>>>> compatibly with existing applications, and you don’t even get the
>>>> fixed-width encoding of UTF-32 in return. It’s the worst of all 
>>>> possible
>>>> worlds.
>>> Thus making it the_perfect_  choice of encoding for Microsoft Windows.
>>>
> 
> IBM mainframes and System i use UTF-16.
> 
> 
I would have thought the font would be a function of software, not tied 
to any hardware.

There is probably an argument for either 32 or 64 bit characters these 
days. Same as integers grew from 16 to 64 bit...



-- 
"The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll 
look exactly the same afterwards."

Billy Connolly

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#78100 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<wwv1plf6apd.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#78097
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
> On 29/11/2025 19:45, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 11/29/25 04:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 28/11/2025 21:10, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>>> UTF-16 has neither advantage. Upgrading from ASCII can’t be done
>>>>> compatibly with existing applications, and you don’t even get the
>>>>> fixed-width encoding of UTF-32 in return. It’s the worst of all
>>>>> possible worlds.
>>>> Thus making it the_perfect_  choice of encoding for Microsoft Windows.
>>
>> IBM mainframes and System i use UTF-16.
> 
> I would have thought the font would be a function of software, not
> tied to any hardware.

Yes. There’s a lot of confusion in this thread. OS APIs may work in one
encoding, a language runtime might prefer another, and an application
may represent its strings in yet another (or more than one, if it’s
dealing with web pages, emails, etc). Hardware makes very little
difference beyond the extent to which hardware is bound to particular
operating systems (although trying to do UTF-32 on a Z80 would be rather
inconvenient).

> There is probably an argument for either 32 or 64 bit characters these
> days. Same as integers grew from 16 to 64 bit...

C has had a wide character type (wchar_t) available for years. It’s
basically unusuable, almost everyone uses char and UTF-8, because all
the existing software works that way and it’s hugely cheaper to adopt
UTF-8 and smooth off a few sharp edges than to rewrite everything to use
a new character type. There are absolutely use cases for switching
temporarily to 32-bit characters but for the most part, it’s just not
worth it.

Go is similar. Strings are made of bytes, normally encoded as UTF-8, but
it’s straightforward to get the 32-bit code points out when you need
them. Rust has a 32-bit ‘char’ but the String type is UTF-8 (with a
separate type for non-UTF-8 strings).

Python takes a different approach. Its internal string representation
dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the string contents,
with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#78107 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<10ghqrq$g7pg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78100
On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:06:54 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> Python takes a different approach. Its internal string
> representation dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the
> string contents, with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.

Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.

It has separate “bytes” (immutable) and “bytearray” (mutable) types.
You have to explicitly convert between these and “str”.

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#78137 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<wwvy0nma8fp.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#78107
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> Python takes a different approach. Its internal string
>> representation dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the
>> string contents, with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.
>
> Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.

No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed 21-bit or
3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not be able to tell
the difference from Python.

The internal representation in the C implementation of Python is as
stated above. (In principle other implementations could make other
decisions.)

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#78970 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<10hj7p1$3qr8r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78137
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 08:54:34 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>
>> Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.
> 
> No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
> represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
> UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed
> 21-bit or 3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not
> be able to tell the difference from Python.

Look up what “nominally” means.

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#78986 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<693d5437$0$2499$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#78137
Le 01-12-2025, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Python takes a different approach. Its internal string
>>> representation dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the
>>> string contents, with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.
>>
>> Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.
>
> No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
> represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
> UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed 21-bit or
> 3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not be able to tell
> the difference from Python.

OK, you mostly have another reason why python is a shit programming
language making believe it's easy to use. Thanks, I didn't knew this
one.

I know only two goods arguments in favor of python. The first one is
it's easy to use for a beginner trying simple things. The second one is
there are a lot of libraries helping developers.

Everything else is just a lot of lies. They pretend it's not strongly
typed, but in the real world you will only encounter a lot of issue if
you believe that. For the mixing of indentation and parenthesis, it's
just ugly and awful to use when trying to debug.

Then now you have the encoding issue. Good to know. It's a good learning
language to learn programming but not to use in real life. It's designed
either for beginners trying to learn how programming works. It looks
good to expert who know every specificities. But in the middle, which
means most of the real world programmers, it's shit.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#79005 — Re: Recent history of vi

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Recent history of vi
Message-ID<wwv4ipuv3v1.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#78986
Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> writes:
> Le 01-12-2025, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>> No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
>> represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
>> UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed 21-bit or
>> 3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not be able to tell
>> the difference from Python.
>
> OK, you mostly have another reason why python is a shit programming
> language making believe it's easy to use. Thanks, I didn't knew this
> one.
>
> I know only two goods arguments in favor of python. The first one is
> it's easy to use for a beginner trying simple things. The second one is
> there are a lot of libraries helping developers.
>
> Everything else is just a lot of lies. They pretend it's not strongly
> typed, but in the real world you will only encounter a lot of issue if
> you believe that. For the mixing of indentation and parenthesis, it's
> just ugly and awful to use when trying to debug.
>
> Then now you have the encoding issue. Good to know. It's a good learning
> language to learn programming but not to use in real life. It's designed
> either for beginners trying to learn how programming works. It looks
> good to expert who know every specificities. But in the middle, which
> means most of the real world programmers, it's shit.

I’m not sure what you think the ‘encoding issue’ is here. The internal
representation of str really does not make any difference the
programmer.

When explicit choices of encoding matters to your application then it’s
straightforward to convert between str and a byte string in the encoding
you want.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#79027 — Python

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
SubjectPython
Message-ID<7a611mx9gf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#78986
On 2025-12-13 12:55, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 01-12-2025, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>> Python takes a different approach. Its internal string
>>>> representation dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the
>>>> string contents, with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.
>>>
>>> Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.
>>
>> No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
>> represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
>> UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed 21-bit or
>> 3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not be able to tell
>> the difference from Python.
> 
> OK, you mostly have another reason why python is a shit programming
> language making believe it's easy to use. Thanks, I didn't knew this
> one.

Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.

...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#79039 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mq6jc6Fbh9aU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79027
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:35:19 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.

MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient 
RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/386

The MicroPython approach worked with no problem. The C library for the 
Pico SDK did not. The interface is rather bitchy about timing and it took 
me a while to find a C routine that worked.

Sure, if you need blazing speed Python isn't the tool. For this 
application the temperature and humidity isn't changing that rapidly, you 
can only read the sensor every couple of seconds (part of the timing 
problem) and writing the values to an OLED display isn't time consuming.

Adafruit has also developed CircuitPython. It's even easier although the 
last time I looked it didn't handle interrupts. However for many projects 
interrupts only add complexity. 

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#79095 — Re: Python

Fromdrb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Date2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<-1ednb_Ffu3GiqL0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79039
 > MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient 
 > RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.

A Pico is substantial overkill for talking to a DHT11.  Even an Arduino
Uno is overkill, though I suppose the Pico actually is cheaper.

De

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#79099 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mq8lrfFmaedU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79095
On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 20:00:27 +0000, Dennis Boone wrote:

>> MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
>  > RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
> 
> A Pico is substantial overkill for talking to a DHT11.  Even an Arduino
> Uno is overkill, though I suppose the Pico actually is cheaper.
> 
> De

Definitely. However I have an assortment of Pico Ws, Pico 2 Ws, Arduino 
Unos, and a couple of Arduino Nano 33 Sense BLEs and tend to mix, match, 
and compare. To further complicate matters I sometimes use Arduino Core on 
the Picos, MicroPython, CircuitPython, and the RPi C SDK. 

one justification for a Pico W is I could put up a web interface with the 
temperature and humidity data.

Do I do anything worthwhile with all the hardware? Sadly, no. There are a 
lot of projects I *could* do but then I ask myself why? Well there is the 
RPi 3+ robot dog I can use to annoy the cat. The cat really doesn't want 
to shake hands even though the dog is wagging his tail in a friendly 
matter. 

The cat doesn't think much of quadrocopters or little things on wheels 
either. 

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#79139 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<ZB6cnXQwSuz6JqL0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79095
On 12/14/25 15:00, Dennis Boone wrote:
>   > MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
>   > RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
> 
> A Pico is substantial overkill for talking to a DHT11.  Even an Arduino
> Uno is overkill, though I suppose the Pico actually is cheaper.

   Ards have become rather expensive. Not sure why.
   Even a Pico has pretty much all the interfaces
   and little devices you need for most anything.

   Odd ... rarely hear anyone here talk about
   the Pi-Zero ... kind of a shunk-down Pi2
   but a little better for battery projects
   in some ways. Pico is a microcontroller
   and thus a bit limited/specific, but the Zero
   can have somewhat wider uses. The Zero-2WH
   looks good for a huge number of things.

   DO like the Mega-2560 Ards though - LOTS of pins
   and a bunch of other goodies. With the low-power
   lib you can cut them back to almost zero consumption
   until some interrupt happens. Sometimes have to
   tweak lib defs or hardware to work with the various
   add-on boards, but that's generally not a killer.

   Their dev environment is 'adequate' and not all
   cluttered-up with shit you'll never use. My last
   field project had two stacked add-on boards ...
   one to charge LiPo batteries from solar and the
   other a custom board to handle various devices.

   There IS a 'hardened' version of the 2560 you can
   still buy, the "RuggedDurino" ... intended for
   'schools'. Has voltage/current clamps on all the pins.
   Might also be very useful for 'industrial' or some
   'field' applications where transient EMP from
   lightning may be an issue.

   USED to have a nice serial PIC programmer with
   a one-size-fits-all ZIF socket. Alas mChip does
   not support those (or some of the chips)
   anymore. Instead you need more complex (read
   EXPENSIVE) and less-general solutions now.
   Such a pity.

   Now WHAT to do with my stock of 16c84 JWs ??? :-)

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#79187 — Re: Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hpl5b$22juh$19@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79139
On 15/12/2025 07:40, c186282 wrote:
> On 12/14/25 15:00, Dennis Boone wrote:
>>   > MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with 
>> sufficient
>>   > RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
>>
>> A Pico is substantial overkill for talking to a DHT11.  Even an Arduino
>> Uno is overkill, though I suppose the Pico actually is cheaper.
> 
>    Ards have become rather expensive. Not sure why.
>    Even a Pico has pretty much all the interfaces
>    and little devices you need for most anything.
> 
>    Odd ... rarely hear anyone here talk about
>    the Pi-Zero ... kind of a shunk-down Pi2
>    but a little better for battery projects
>    in some ways. Pico is a microcontroller
>    and thus a bit limited/specific, but the Zero
>    can have somewhat wider uses. The Zero-2WH
>    looks good for a huge number of things.
> 
I've got 3 running as headless servers. One controls the heating and 
runs the website the oil sensor talks to

The two others drive hi fi s for music,




-- 
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich 
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason 
they are poor.

Peter Thompson

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#79215 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqbdo6F61eeU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79139
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 02:40:23 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>   Ards have become rather expensive. Not sure why.
>    Even a Pico has pretty much all the interfaces and little devices you
>    need for most anything.

The ELEGOOs are less expensive and I've had good luck with them. I'm not 
sure about the current genuine Arduino R3s but the older ones I have only 
have the pin legends on the board. On the ELEGOOs they are stenciled on 
both sides of the male headers. Old eyes and I find it a lot easier to get 
the pin in the right hole without sighting down from the top or counting.

>    Their dev environment is 'adequate' and not all cluttered-up with
>    shit you'll never use. My last field project had two stacked add-on
>    boards ...
>    one to charge LiPo batteries from solar and the other a custom board
>    to handle various devices.

The IDE isn't bad although 2.0 wasn't quite as improved as I'd hoped for. 
It does tend to spawn new instances of itself. Lately I've been using 
arduino-cli with vim as the editor.

https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-and-vim-no-ide-required/882004

The vim-arduino package works well. I use minicom for the serial 
interface. I haven't needed the serial plotter option. I didn't bother 
with the bundled examples. Most of the libraries that are installed have 
examples.

>    There IS a 'hardened' version of the 2560 you can still buy, the
>    "RuggedDurino" ... intended for 'schools'. Has voltage/current clamps
>    on all the pins.
>    Might also be very useful for 'industrial' or some 'field'
>    applications where transient EMP from lightning may be an issue.

There are Arduinos that target industrial applications but they are quite 
expensive. The new Uno Q is bringing some of that to the hobbyist market. 
From what I've read so far it's awkward. The MPU part is Python, and the 
MCU is C with a bridge so you're calling MCU functions from the Python on 
the MPU. 

>    USED to have a nice serial PIC programmer with a one-size-fits-all
>    ZIF socket. Alas mChip does not support those (or some of the chips)
>    anymore. Instead you need more complex (read EXPENSIVE) and
>    less-general solutions now.
>    Such a pity.

I've got an old Atmel development board that I keep thinking I should try 
to get working. AVR Studio became Microchip Studio and runs on the dreaded 
Win11 interface. I got a feeling it would be easier to build a programmer 
with a Pico W.

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#79185 — Re: Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hpl0f$22juh$18@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79095
On 14/12/2025 20:00, Dennis Boone wrote:
>   > MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
>   > RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
> 
> A Pico is substantial overkill for talking to a DHT11.  Even an Arduino
> Uno is overkill, though I suppose the Pico actually is cheaper.
> 
> De

I've got some 3 dollar 'RP2040 Zero'  boards from china. Even cheaper 
than a PICO

-- 
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

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#79184 — Re: Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hpktm$22juh$17@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79039
On 14/12/2025 01:48, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:35:19 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.
> 
> MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
> RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
> 
> https://www.adafruit.com/product/386
> 
> The MicroPython approach worked with no problem. The C library for the
> Pico SDK did not. The interface is rather bitchy about timing and it took
> me a while to find a C routine that worked.
> 
Yes. The C SDK is not well documented, but it does in fact work better 
and do more

I am gradually building up code examples that actually do work.

I am very surprised you couldn't get that to work using C.

I had no real issues interfacing an ultrasonic sensor which is all about 
timing



> Sure, if you need blazing speed Python isn't the tool. For this
> application the temperature and humidity isn't changing that rapidly, you
> can only read the sensor every couple of seconds (part of the timing
> problem) and writing the values to an OLED display isn't time consuming.
> 
> Adafruit has also developed CircuitPython. It's even easier although the
> last time I looked it didn't handle interrupts. However for many projects
> interrupts only add complexity.

AS I said. Its the modern BASIC. Great for hacking stuff up, bur bare 
metal it aint.


-- 
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#79218 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqbfnvF61eeU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79184
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:44:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 14/12/2025 01:48, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:35:19 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.
>> 
>> MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
>> RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
>> 
>> https://www.adafruit.com/product/386
>> 
>> The MicroPython approach worked with no problem. The C library for the
>> Pico SDK did not. The interface is rather bitchy about timing and it
>> took me a while to find a C routine that worked.
>> 
> Yes. The C SDK is not well documented, but it does in fact work better
> and do more
> 
> I am gradually building up code examples that actually do work.
> 
> I am very surprised you couldn't get that to work using C.

I did, eventually. There are a couple of C versions and at least one PIO 
version. I didn't try the PIO but it might work better than the bit 
banging. 

It came with a Sunfounder parts kit. Adafruit, SparkFun and some of the 
others have dropped the DHT11. It always had accuracy problems plus the 
funky 1 pin interface. The DHT20 and SHT40 are I2C and more accurate.

https://toptechboy.com/measure-temperature-and-humidity-on-the-raspberry-
pi-pico-w/

I'd originally followed that tutorial. Simple and it works. Trying to 
replicate it with the C SDK, not so simple and a lot of dead ends. I have 
the Raspberry Pi Pico extension installed in VS Code and if you select new 
C/C++ project you can select from examples in the dialog. Selecting 'dht' 
was off to a bad start.

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#79242 — Re: Python

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hq75n$29cri$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79184
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:44:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> [Python is] the modern BASIC. Great for hacking stuff up, bur bare
> metal it aint.

Unlike BASIC, Python’s facilities for doing low-level stuff are a bit
more advanced than PEEK and POKE. ;)

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#79528 — Re: Python

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<hbug1mxpta.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#79242
On 2025-12-16 00:55, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:44:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> [Python is] the modern BASIC. Great for hacking stuff up, bur bare
>> metal it aint.
> 
> Unlike BASIC, Python’s facilities for doing low-level stuff are a bit
> more advanced than PEEK and POKE. ;)

I don't remember how we did id with the Microsoft basic compiler in the 
90's. QC40? I think we linked an external obj or lib file that did the 
actual job, provided by the manufacturer of the data acquisition card we 
used.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#79047 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<kAqdnZn4GIkpoaP0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79027
On 12/13/25 17:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-12-13 12:55, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 01-12-2025, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>> Python takes a different approach. Its internal string
>>>>> representation dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the
>>>>> string contents, with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.
>>>>
>>>> Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.
>>>
>>> No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
>>> represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
>>> UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed 21-bit or
>>> 3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not be able to tell
>>> the difference from Python.
>>
>> OK, you mostly have another reason why python is a shit programming
>> language making believe it's easy to use. Thanks, I didn't knew this
>> one.
> 
> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.

   Smart.

   NOT sure why so many people want to trash Python.
   At this juncture it's good for basically ANYTHING.
   That includes 'system' stuff, client/server stuff,
   video/gui stuff ... almost anything you could want
   that doesn't include a giant box full of NVidia
   chips - but it'll help you interface with that too.

   Most everything I did in the past decade was first
   prototyped using Python. If that was good enough
   then it was good enough ... otherwise I'd take
   the info/structure and move it to 'C' or Pascal.

   Python strings ... quoted defs are 'immutable',
   but you can still do all the usual comparisons
   and searching junk. Never a real problem. The
   most annoying 'string' thing are "binary" strings,
   sometimes returned by systems work. Depending on
   future uses you may have to convert them to "real"
   strings. If you're doing client/server EXPECT
   those kinds of strings - to be sent and/or received.

   Yea yea ... it's "interpreted" ... but the interpreter
   is just sequencing functions writ in 'C' by and large.
   There are some 'compilers' ... some better than others.

   Python essentially borrowed ideas from FORTRAN, BASIC
   and Algol/Pascal. It's readable, functional, USUALLY
   "fast enough" and easy to develop/debug.

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