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Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?

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First post2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
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  Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 11:31 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:15 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:32 +0100
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:08 -0500
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-09 19:51 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:38 -0500
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:35 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 12:50 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:57 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 23:58 -0500
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 11:25 +0000
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 12:48 +0000
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 23:29 -0500
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-09 09:18 -0800
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 20:13 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:47 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:09 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:15 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:23 +0000
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 01:03 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 10:57 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-11 20:50 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:38 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-12 16:38 -0800
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 04:29 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-13 05:07 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:09 -0500
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:42 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:37 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:46 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 05:31 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:00 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 02:08 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:55 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:30 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:56 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:54 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:17 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 10:38 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:20 +0100
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:50 -0500
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:18 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 00:54 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:28 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:25 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:35 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:49 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:49 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:31 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:33 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-11 21:07 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:21 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:13 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 05:40 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:20 -0500
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:31 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:39 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 19:48 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:53 +0100
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 23:51 -0500
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:40 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:01 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:27 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-11-12 12:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 14:17 +0100
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:51 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:38 +0100
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 21:30 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 04:21 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:10 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 02:51 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:08 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:40 +0100
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 16:26 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 19:22 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-14 17:34 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:54 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:37 +0100
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 16:09 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 02:05 +0000
                                        Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-15 09:59 +0000
                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 17:32 +0000
                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-15 18:48 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 21:38 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 22:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 23:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-16 00:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-16 09:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:38 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-18 03:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 13:11 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 03:43 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:47 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:30 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-17 11:39 -0500
                                                Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:31 -0500
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 02:32 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 21:51 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:11 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 05:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-16 12:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 19:57 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-18 08:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-18 12:09 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:56 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:01 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:27 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 10:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 23:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 23:18 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 00:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:27 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 05:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-18 20:04 +0100
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-18 20:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 08:24 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 21:14 +0000
                                                                    ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-15 and their names (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-21 19:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-22 10:23 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
                                                                          Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
                                                                        Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
                                                                          Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
                                                                                    Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                                                                                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
                                                                                          Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
                                                                                                        EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
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                                                                                                                      Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:47 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
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                                                                                                                                Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:26 +0100
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                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
                                                                                                            Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:56 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:52 +0100
                                                                          Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-05 01:59 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:05 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-22 20:25 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:02 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:16 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:18 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:38 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:15 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:37 +0100
                                                                ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2025-11-19 14:58 +0100
                                                                  Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-20 02:09 +0000
                                                                    Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-19 20:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 08:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-11-21 12:24 +0100
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-19 13:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-23 16:25 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-25 10:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:05 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 23:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                                                                                            Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                                                                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                                                                                                  Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                  The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-18 21:08 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
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#79185 — Re: Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hpl0f$22juh$18@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79095
On 14/12/2025 20:00, Dennis Boone wrote:
>   > MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
>   > RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
> 
> A Pico is substantial overkill for talking to a DHT11.  Even an Arduino
> Uno is overkill, though I suppose the Pico actually is cheaper.
> 
> De

I've got some 3 dollar 'RP2040 Zero'  boards from china. Even cheaper 
than a PICO

-- 
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

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#79184 — Re: Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hpktm$22juh$17@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79039
On 14/12/2025 01:48, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:35:19 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.
> 
> MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
> RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
> 
> https://www.adafruit.com/product/386
> 
> The MicroPython approach worked with no problem. The C library for the
> Pico SDK did not. The interface is rather bitchy about timing and it took
> me a while to find a C routine that worked.
> 
Yes. The C SDK is not well documented, but it does in fact work better 
and do more

I am gradually building up code examples that actually do work.

I am very surprised you couldn't get that to work using C.

I had no real issues interfacing an ultrasonic sensor which is all about 
timing



> Sure, if you need blazing speed Python isn't the tool. For this
> application the temperature and humidity isn't changing that rapidly, you
> can only read the sensor every couple of seconds (part of the timing
> problem) and writing the values to an OLED display isn't time consuming.
> 
> Adafruit has also developed CircuitPython. It's even easier although the
> last time I looked it didn't handle interrupts. However for many projects
> interrupts only add complexity.

AS I said. Its the modern BASIC. Great for hacking stuff up, bur bare 
metal it aint.


-- 
Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.

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#79218 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqbfnvF61eeU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79184
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:44:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 14/12/2025 01:48, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:35:19 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.
>> 
>> MicroPython works quite nicely on Picos and other MCUs with sufficient
>> RAM. A few weeks ago I wanted to interface with a DHT11 sensor.
>> 
>> https://www.adafruit.com/product/386
>> 
>> The MicroPython approach worked with no problem. The C library for the
>> Pico SDK did not. The interface is rather bitchy about timing and it
>> took me a while to find a C routine that worked.
>> 
> Yes. The C SDK is not well documented, but it does in fact work better
> and do more
> 
> I am gradually building up code examples that actually do work.
> 
> I am very surprised you couldn't get that to work using C.

I did, eventually. There are a couple of C versions and at least one PIO 
version. I didn't try the PIO but it might work better than the bit 
banging. 

It came with a Sunfounder parts kit. Adafruit, SparkFun and some of the 
others have dropped the DHT11. It always had accuracy problems plus the 
funky 1 pin interface. The DHT20 and SHT40 are I2C and more accurate.

https://toptechboy.com/measure-temperature-and-humidity-on-the-raspberry-
pi-pico-w/

I'd originally followed that tutorial. Simple and it works. Trying to 
replicate it with the C SDK, not so simple and a lot of dead ends. I have 
the Raspberry Pi Pico extension installed in VS Code and if you select new 
C/C++ project you can select from examples in the dialog. Selecting 'dht' 
was off to a bad start.

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#79242 — Re: Python

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hq75n$29cri$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79184
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:44:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> [Python is] the modern BASIC. Great for hacking stuff up, bur bare
> metal it aint.

Unlike BASIC, Python’s facilities for doing low-level stuff are a bit
more advanced than PEEK and POKE. ;)

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#79528 — Re: Python

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<hbug1mxpta.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#79242
On 2025-12-16 00:55, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:44:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> [Python is] the modern BASIC. Great for hacking stuff up, bur bare
>> metal it aint.
> 
> Unlike BASIC, Python’s facilities for doing low-level stuff are a bit
> more advanced than PEEK and POKE. ;)

I don't remember how we did id with the Microsoft basic compiler in the 
90's. QC40? I think we linked an external obj or lib file that did the 
actual job, provided by the manufacturer of the data acquisition card we 
used.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#79047 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<kAqdnZn4GIkpoaP0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79027
On 12/13/25 17:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-12-13 12:55, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 01-12-2025, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>> Python takes a different approach. Its internal string
>>>>> representation dynamically picks 8, 16 or 32 bits depending on the
>>>>> string contents, with UTF-8 created on demand and cached.
>>>>
>>>> Its “str” type (immutable) is nominally UTF-32.
>>>
>>> No. RTFM. At the Python level, str is a sequence of values that
>>> represent Unicode code points. There is no statement that they are
>>> UTF-32. For all the Python programmer knows it could be packed 21-bit or
>>> 3-byte fields, among other possibilities; they would not be able to tell
>>> the difference from Python.
>>
>> OK, you mostly have another reason why python is a shit programming
>> language making believe it's easy to use. Thanks, I didn't knew this
>> one.
> 
> Casio calculators use it. Well, MicroPython.

   Smart.

   NOT sure why so many people want to trash Python.
   At this juncture it's good for basically ANYTHING.
   That includes 'system' stuff, client/server stuff,
   video/gui stuff ... almost anything you could want
   that doesn't include a giant box full of NVidia
   chips - but it'll help you interface with that too.

   Most everything I did in the past decade was first
   prototyped using Python. If that was good enough
   then it was good enough ... otherwise I'd take
   the info/structure and move it to 'C' or Pascal.

   Python strings ... quoted defs are 'immutable',
   but you can still do all the usual comparisons
   and searching junk. Never a real problem. The
   most annoying 'string' thing are "binary" strings,
   sometimes returned by systems work. Depending on
   future uses you may have to convert them to "real"
   strings. If you're doing client/server EXPECT
   those kinds of strings - to be sent and/or received.

   Yea yea ... it's "interpreted" ... but the interpreter
   is just sequencing functions writ in 'C' by and large.
   There are some 'compilers' ... some better than others.

   Python essentially borrowed ideas from FORTRAN, BASIC
   and Algol/Pascal. It's readable, functional, USUALLY
   "fast enough" and easy to develop/debug.

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#79070 — Re: Python

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<693ea5fa$0$28070$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#79047
Le 14-12-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>
>    NOT sure why so many people want to trash Python.

My issues with python are:
- It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
  what happens, it breaks everything and I have to manage the
  indentations. I can't just comment/uncomment a block of code as I do
  with other programming languages.
- It's sold as an easy programming language. Which is true for
  discovering it. And once I'm using it in the real life, I
  discover the hard reality. A lot of things that should just work don't 
  because it's an exception.
- The version management is awful. There are a lot of ways to be able to
  use different packages than the ones used by the system. But not two
  people are using the same. It looks like venv is going a little bit
  forward, but only for new programs.

It's not the worse, mind you. For me there is nothing more horrible than
cacascript.

>    At this juncture it's good for basically ANYTHING.

That's what I said: a lot of libraries. I agree with that.

>    sometimes returned by systems work. Depending on
>    future uses you may have to convert them to "real"
>    strings.

Exactly why I don't like python. "Sometimes", "depending on", "you may
have to" and other things that habitually work except when they don't.

>    Yea yea ... it's "interpreted" ...

No. That I don't care. It's not that slow on a modern computer and when
it's slow, it's often more related with the network or the environment.

>    It's readable,

Yes, that I agree with and that's a reason why I don't like Haskell.
Haskell has lot of very good ideas, but they are trying as much as
possible to avoid parenthesis and it's awful to read.

My issue with python is not about understanding what it does. It's about
understanding why it doesn't as expected. The error messages aren't that
bad neither.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#79103 — Re: Python

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hnh91$1geq0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79070
On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> My issues with python are:
> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
>   what happens, it breaks everything and I have to manage the
>   indentations. I can't just comment/uncomment a block of code as I do
>   with other programming languages.

To no-op a block of code

    ...
    ... block of code ...
    ...

turn it into

    if False :
        ...
        ... block of code ...
        ...
    #end if

> - It's sold as an easy programming language. Which is true for
>   discovering it. And once I'm using it in the real life, I discover the
>   hard reality. A lot of things that should just work don't because it's
>   an exception.

Example(s)?

> - The version management is awful. There are a lot of ways to be able to
>   use different packages than the ones used by the system.

Maybe I’m unusual, but I make little use of Python packages that are not 
available with the distro. So distro package version management is good 
enough for me.

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#79154 — Re: Python

Frommm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
Date2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hp0kl$1t75q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79103
On 14/12/2025 23:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>> My issues with python are:
>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see

''' and ''' are your friend

And maybe stop using edlin etc. and invest in a modern editor that knows 
the language and so helps you by making life easier.

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#79216 — Re: Python

FromAlexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de>
Date2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<slrn10k112e.3r510.als@mordor.angband.thangorodrim.de>
In reply to#79154
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 14/12/2025 23:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> 
>>> My issues with python are:
>>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
>
> ''' and ''' are your friend
>
> And maybe stop using edlin etc. and invest in a modern editor that knows 
> the language and so helps you by making life easier.

"The ed utility is the standard text editor."

SCNR,
   Alex.
-- 
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
 looks like work."                                      -- Thomas A. Edison

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#79256 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mnudnV9r3LYPT930nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79154
On 12/15/25 07:57, mm0fmf wrote:
> On 14/12/2025 23:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> My issues with python are:
>>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
> 
> ''' and ''' are your friend
> 
> And maybe stop using edlin etc. and invest in a modern editor that knows 
> the language and so helps you by making life easier.

   Not much fun in THAT !!!  :-)

   Me, I use 'nano' as much as possible.

   Larger, complex, programs ... sometimes I have
   to use IDLE or Geany because they can make
   guide-lines showing indentation levels. Once
   that's fixed, back to 'nano'  :-)

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#79260 — Re: Python

FromGreg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz>
Date2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqc6qeF9sv2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79256
Any decent programming editor will have a facility for selecting a group 
of lines and adding/removing the appropriate commenting characters.

(If your editor doesn't have that, then by definition it's not decent. :-)

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#79268 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqcjo3Fbg32U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79260
On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 17:51:26 +1300, Greg Ewing wrote:

> Any decent programming editor will have a facility for selecting a group
> of lines and adding/removing the appropriate commenting characters.
> 
> (If your editor doesn't have that, then by definition it's not det.
> :-)

:.,'as/^/#/  

assuming you've marked a.

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#79319 — Re: Python

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hsju6$32b9t$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79154
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 12:57:57 +0000, mm0fmf wrote:

> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>> My issues with python are:
>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
> 
> ''' and ''' are your friend

Unless the block has triply-quoted strings inside it ...

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#79348 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqegqtFl85nU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79319
On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 21:45:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 12:57:57 +0000, mm0fmf wrote:
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> 
>>> My issues with python are:
>>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
>> 
>> ''' and ''' are your friend
> 
> Unless the block has triply-quoted strings inside it ...

Yeah, well. I've been burned more than once by someone who added 

/* stupid comment */ 

someplace west of the 80th column in the code.

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#79364 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<CcCcnbUCnYYD-N_0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79348
On 12/16/25 20:54, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 21:45:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 12:57:57 +0000, mm0fmf wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> My issues with python are:
>>>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
>>>
>>> ''' and ''' are your friend
>>
>> Unless the block has triply-quoted strings inside it ...
> 
> Yeah, well. I've been burned more than once by someone who added
> 
> /* stupid comment */
> 
> someplace west of the 80th column in the code.

   Well ...... reflex ........   :-)

   Now most of my code lines have a "# WhatThisIs"
   comment at the end. I like to micro-document so
   I can remember what my own fuckin' code does
   a few years down the line. AMAZING how quickly
   the 'why' vanishes from the mind  :-)

   Probably 50% of the text in my code - doesn't
   matter which lang - is 'comments'.

   ANYway ... you CAN easily do block commenting
   in Python ... P3 anyway, not so sure about P2
   because I never used it.

   IF there's a P4 ... they really SHOULD accept "/*"
   as a start-comment.

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#79391 — Re: Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<mqgdu2Fng8U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79364
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 03:11:09 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    Probably 50% of the text in my code - doesn't matter which lang - is
>    'comments'.

I looked at some of my code and it's pretty much comment free. There are a 
couple of .c files with comments that I reused from another project that 
have somebody's comments.

I had a tendency to clone similar projects and inherit some code that I 
could tweak so the final executable did one thing well. We had a couple of 
nightmares that originally did one thing well but for the next project the 
programmer said 'That's close to what I need. A few configuration values 
here and there and it will work.'  The next time around it got some more 
configuration values to do something else.  I have a Swiss Army knife I 
found; it's in the junk drawer. 

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#79412 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<fsidnRnSK9Uz7d70nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79391
On 12/17/25 14:17, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 03:11:09 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Probably 50% of the text in my code - doesn't matter which lang - is
>>     'comments'.
> 
> I looked at some of my code and it's pretty much comment free. There are a
> couple of .c files with comments that I reused from another project that
> have somebody's comments.
> 
> I had a tendency to clone similar projects and inherit some code that I
> could tweak so the final executable did one thing well. We had a couple of
> nightmares that originally did one thing well but for the next project the
> programmer said 'That's close to what I need. A few configuration values
> here and there and it will work.'  The next time around it got some more
> configuration values to do something else.  I have a Swiss Army knife I
> found; it's in the junk drawer.


   Well ... I'll better understand, and be able to mod, my
   old programs better than you. I find 'excessive' commenting
   anything BUT 'excessive'. I *enjoy* writing out the meaning
   and implications of almost every step.

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#79414 — Re: Python

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<10hvsd2$11k4$2@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#79412
According to c186282  <c186282@nnada.net>:
>   Well ... I'll better understand, and be able to mod, my
>   old programs better than you. I find 'excessive' commenting
>   anything BUT 'excessive'. I *enjoy* writing out the meaning
>   and implications of almost every step.

That's fine as long as it's done with adequate discipline

	i += 2;	/* add one more bloofus to i */







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#79415 — Re: Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
SubjectRe: Python
Message-ID<fsidnRXSK9VR4d70nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79414
On 12/17/25 22:28, John Levine wrote:
> According to c186282  <c186282@nnada.net>:
>>    Well ... I'll better understand, and be able to mod, my
>>    old programs better than you. I find 'excessive' commenting
>>    anything BUT 'excessive'. I *enjoy* writing out the meaning
>>    and implications of almost every step.
> 
> That's fine as long as it's done with adequate discipline
> 
> 	i += 2;	/* add one more bloofus to i */

   Gotta add a couple of words explaining
   the *context* - WHY you are incrementing
   the var by 2, not one or three. Did a
   recent little app where you needed to inc
   by two ... and the comment explained why.

   Oh, I usually write "i=i+2". It's a bit more
   clear and becomes the same code anyway. +=
   is more a 'C' thing.

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