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| Started by | Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> |
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| First post | 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100 |
| Last post | 2025-12-04 07:15 +0000 |
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Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:34 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:59 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 21:34 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:24 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:47 -0500
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:57 +0000
Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:05 -0500
Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-17 07:34 -0500
Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:42 -0500
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 18:14 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:55 +0000
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 20:05 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:30 +0000
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 23:15 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-17 07:32 -0500
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 18:53 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:06 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:33 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:02 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:18 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:03 -0500
Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:26 +0100
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:29 -0500
Re: EU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-18 17:28 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:32 -0500
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 10:47 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:30 +0000
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:01 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:03 +0000
Re: EU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-19 14:08 -0800
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 22:33 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:12 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-20 20:45 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 03:41 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 01:00 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 07:06 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 02:21 -0500
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:06 +0000
Re: EU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-22 14:41 -0800
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:59 -0500
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 19:47 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 21:18 +0000
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-23 22:38 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 23:32 +0000
Re: EU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-24 10:24 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:36 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:27 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 23:40 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-24 07:02 +0000
Re: EU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-24 10:32 +0000
Re: EU Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:04 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:21 -0500
Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-22 16:38 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 17:33 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 01:20 -0500
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:39 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 03:10 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 14:29 -0500
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 20:09 +0000
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 20:52 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 00:59 -0500
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 03:07 +0000
Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 00:04 -0500
Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 07:43 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:30 +0000
Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:25 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:22 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10h6ntd$6i4n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78471 |
On 12/8/25 01:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 07/12/2025 21:54, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: >>>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>>> >>>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He >>>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin >>>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had >>>>> limited >>>>> utility in later life. >>>> >>>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, >>>> for starters, >>>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived >>>> (Romance) languages. >>> >>> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics, >>> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that >>> language of an educated European. >> >> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an >> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language >> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke > > i.e the language of the educated European... > As a genealogist, the abandonment of Latin was the worst thing that could have happened. We only needed a few words of one language to be able to interpret old documents from anywhere. Now I have to deal not only with English, but with German, Polish, Russian, French, etc. Add in the sloppy versions of various handwriting styles over the centuries and we have a royal mess.
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq1sqhFi5vbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78500 |
On 2025-12-08, Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>
> As a genealogist, the abandonment of Latin was the worst thing that
> could have happened. We only needed a few words of one language to be
> able to interpret old documents from anywhere. Now I have to deal not
> only with English, but with German, Polish, Russian, French, etc. Add in
> the sloppy versions of various handwriting styles over the centuries and
> we have a royal mess.
Genealogists here in Sweden are fairly lucky. Census data used to be the
purview of the clergy, and most of them were pretty meticulous about it,
at least after a certain point (sometime in the 1700s).
I traced my family back to the 1700s along one line, but mostly I
couldn't get past the early 1800s. Through testing with 23andMe I also
managed to get my family back in touch with a branch that had emigrated
to the US back in the early 1900s.
Most of the matches you get on these DNA sites are weak and it's
hopeless to find where the human connection is. I was quite pleased to
encounter an exception to that.
Niklas
--
Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code obfuscation
techniques.
-- Roedy Green
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq1uthFi5cdU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78876 |
On 12 Dec 2025 06:59:29 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: > Most of the matches you get on these DNA sites are weak and it's > hopeless to find where the human connection is. I was quite pleased to > encounter an exception to that. 23AndMe did come up with a 2nd cousin but most of them seem very unlikely. My brother tried his hand at it but didn't have much luck. Germans might have been meticulous record keepers but carpet bombing took care of a lot of them.
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| From | Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> |
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| Date | 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10jds2o.1nl6b.als@frodo.angband.thangorodrim.de> |
| In reply to | #78471 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 07/12/2025 21:54, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He
>>>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin
>>>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had limited
>>>>> utility in later life.
>>>>
>>>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for starters,
>>>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived (Romance) languages.
>>>
>>> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics,
>>> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that
>>> language of an educated European.
>>
>> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an
>> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language
>> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke
>
> i.e the language of the educated European...
Well, there was a famous book about early artillery and black powder
when those technologies were somewhat newish in Europe and which contained
texts from many sources. The author only bothered to translate the arabic
and chinese sources, because a properly educated officer would of course
be able to read german, english, french, spanish, italian, greek, latin
and english (and I probably forgot one or two languages in the list).
>> and it
>> conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so
>> they needed the clergy as "interpreters". One of the reasons why the
>> Church was so much after Martin Luther, because he enabled the common
>> people (yes, reading was still a limited distribution skill, but reading
>> the native language was far, far more common than understanding Latin)
>> to read "the word of God" themselves. Rather inconvient for the clergy
>> trying to remain gatekeepers ...
>>
> Bit like the EU today isn't it?
Not at all. Official EU documents are translated into all the official
languages of the EU nations by qualified translators so that the legal
intent remains preserved. One of the reasons why machine translations
between EU languages are so good is that this corpus serves as really
good training material for those systems.
Kind regards,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <p57o0mxoob.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78503 |
On 2025-12-08 16:35, Alexander Schreiber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 07/12/2025 21:54, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: >>>>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He >>>>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin >>>>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had limited >>>>>> utility in later life. >>>>> >>>>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for starters, >>>>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived (Romance) languages. >>>> >>>> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics, >>>> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that >>>> language of an educated European. >>> >>> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an >>> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language >>> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke >> >> i.e the language of the educated European... > > Well, there was a famous book about early artillery and black powder > when those technologies were somewhat newish in Europe and which contained > texts from many sources. The author only bothered to translate the arabic > and chinese sources, because a properly educated officer would of course > be able to read german, english, french, spanish, italian, greek, latin > and english (and I probably forgot one or two languages in the list). Wow. > >>> and it >>> conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so >>> they needed the clergy as "interpreters". One of the reasons why the >>> Church was so much after Martin Luther, because he enabled the common >>> people (yes, reading was still a limited distribution skill, but reading >>> the native language was far, far more common than understanding Latin) >>> to read "the word of God" themselves. Rather inconvient for the clergy >>> trying to remain gatekeepers ... >>> >> Bit like the EU today isn't it? > > Not at all. Official EU documents are translated into all the official > languages of the EU nations by qualified translators so that the legal > intent remains preserved. One of the reasons why machine translations > between EU languages are so good is that this corpus serves as really > good training material for those systems. What machine translator are they using? -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hbtai$1heop$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78689 |
On 10/12/2025 12:54, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-08 16:35, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> Bit like the EU today isn't it? >> >> Not at all. Official EU documents are translated into all the official >> languages of the EU nations by qualified translators so that the legal >> intent remains preserved. One of the reasons why machine translations >> between EU languages are so good is that this corpus serves as really >> good training material for those systems. > > What machine translator are they using? > > My sister made a very good living out of translating Spanish, Greek English, German, Italian and French documents one to another for IIRC NATO, but the EU is the same. As we say 'Costa Packet' All paid for by the good citizens . -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?"
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| From | Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10jjrpo.29mh4.als@mordor.angband.thangorodrim.de> |
| In reply to | #78696 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 10/12/2025 12:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-08 16:35, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Bit like the EU today isn't it?
>>>
>>> Not at all. Official EU documents are translated into all the official
>>> languages of the EU nations by qualified translators so that the legal
>>> intent remains preserved. One of the reasons why machine translations
>>> between EU languages are so good is that this corpus serves as really
>>> good training material for those systems.
>>
>> What machine translator are they using?
>>
>>
> My sister made a very good living out of translating Spanish, Greek
> English, German, Italian and French documents one to another for IIRC
> NATO, but the EU is the same.
>
> As we say 'Costa Packet'
>
> All paid for by the good citizens .
Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially
binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to
happen for obvious reasons, though.
Kind regards,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10he0oj$237cl$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78723 |
On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially
> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to
> happen for obvious reasons, though.
The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27
different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and
climates.
--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
- Bertrand Russell
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hfb1t$1nip$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #78763 |
According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially >> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to >> happen for obvious reasons, though. > >The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 >different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and >climates. I dunno, it worked in China. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hfb79$2fut8$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78830 |
On 11/12/2025 20:54, John Levine wrote: > According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially >>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to >>> happen for obvious reasons, though. >> >> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 >> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and >> climates. > > I dunno, it worked in China. > You call that working? -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <10hft10$1bbn$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #78831 |
According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >On 11/12/2025 20:54, John Levine wrote: >> According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >>> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially >>>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to >>>> happen for obvious reasons, though. >>> >>> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 >>> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and >>> climates. >> >> I dunno, it worked in China. >> >You call that working? In 1955, China's GDP per capita was $58. Last year it was over $13,000. That's certainly not all due to the common language but it helped establish a single economy where people could move to where the jobs are. I realize China has plenty of other issues but its economic development in the past half century is astonishing, particularly in view of how big it is. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <mq1csjFfne1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78856 |
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 02:01:04 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: > In 1955, China's GDP per capita was $58. Last year it was over $13,000. > That's certainly not all due to the common language but it helped > establish a single economy where people could move to where the jobs > are. > > I realize China has plenty of other issues but its economic development > in the past half century is astonishing, particularly in view of how big > it is. It doesn't hurt that 91% of the population is Han.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <q6bs0mxutr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78856 |
On 2025-12-12 03:01, John Levine wrote: > According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >> On 11/12/2025 20:54, John Levine wrote: >>> According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >>>> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>>>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially >>>>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to >>>>> happen for obvious reasons, though. >>>> >>>> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 >>>> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and >>>> climates. >>> >>> I dunno, it worked in China. >>> >> You call that working? > > In 1955, China's GDP per capita was $58. Last year it was over $13,000. > That's certainly not all due to the common language but it helped establish > a single economy where people could move to where the jobs are. > > I realize China has plenty of other issues but its economic development > in the past half century is astonishing, particularly in view of how big > it is. Indeed it is. Currently it is the most successful country in the world. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <10hga1c$2n91j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78856 |
On 12/11/25 18:01, John Levine wrote: > According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >> On 11/12/2025 20:54, John Levine wrote: >>> According to The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>: >>>> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>>>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially >>>>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to >>>>> happen for obvious reasons, though. >>>> >>>> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 >>>> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and >>>> climates. >>> >>> I dunno, it worked in China. >>> >> You call that working? > > In 1955, China's GDP per capita was $58. Last year it was over $13,000. > That's certainly not all due to the common language but it helped establish > a single economy where people could move to where the jobs are. > > I realize China has plenty of other issues but its economic development > in the past half century is astonishing, particularly in view of how big > it is. China has had a common written or drawn language for thousands of years which permitted the existence of the Chinese Empire. The changes since the Communist aka Red Army take-over have been refinements and some conformity imposed on the spoken language. Most of those refinements have been to the transliteration into other alphabets such as the Latin alphabet. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <mq1uc6Fi5cdU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78872 |
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 21:43:06 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > China has had a common written or drawn language for thousands of years > which permitted the existence of the Chinese Empire. The changes since > the Communist aka Red Army take-over have been refinements and some > conformity imposed on the spoken language. Most of those refinements > have been to the transliteration into other alphabets such as the Latin > alphabet. They do have Cantonese. Lucy Liu, who had learned Mandarin as a kid, remarked that learning enough Cantonese for a movie she was making was difficult. For the most part China puts the 'diversity is strength' dogma into question.
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| From | Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10jnm86.2oi04.als@mordor.angband.thangorodrim.de> |
| In reply to | #78763 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially
>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to
>> happen for obvious reasons, though.
>
> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27
> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and
> climates.
Funnily enough, despite all the grumbling, all EU members joined
voluntarily. The EU is build not by conquest, but by individual states
applying to join the club. So if a state doesn't like that, they are,
of course, also free to leave. Which is what the UK did. It went amazingly
well of them, with the world lining up at their door to sign amazing trade
agreements with the UK, lots of money suddenly flowing into the NHS
and in general the UK becoming an economic and political powerhouse
again ... oh wait, that didn't happen, it all went to crap for them, oops.
SCNR,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000 |
| Subject | EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <20251212095338.c8a50755e45318f4cf95e760@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #78888 |
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 09:57:42 +0100 Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: > >> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially > >> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to > >> happen for obvious reasons, though. > > > > The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 > > different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and > > climates. > > Funnily enough, despite all the grumbling, all EU members joined > voluntarily. The EU is build not by conquest, but by individual states > applying to join the club. So if a state doesn't like that, they are, > of course, also free to leave. Which is what the UK did. It went amazingly > well of them, with the world lining up at their door to sign amazing trade > agreements with the UK, lots of money suddenly flowing into the NHS > and in general the UK becoming an economic and political powerhouse > again ... oh wait, that didn't happen, it all went to crap for them, oops. > Nah, Greater Prosperity is just around the corner; just talk to Richard Heathfield. -- Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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| From | Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi |
| Message-ID | <slrn10jnsub.2p8e8.als@mordor.angband.thangorodrim.de> |
| In reply to | #78890 |
Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 09:57:42 +0100
> Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> wrote:
>
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> > On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>> >> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially
>> >> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to
>> >> happen for obvious reasons, though.
>> >
>> > The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27
>> > different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and
>> > climates.
>>
>> Funnily enough, despite all the grumbling, all EU members joined
>> voluntarily. The EU is build not by conquest, but by individual states
>> applying to join the club. So if a state doesn't like that, they are,
>> of course, also free to leave. Which is what the UK did. It went amazingly
>> well of them, with the world lining up at their door to sign amazing trade
>> agreements with the UK, lots of money suddenly flowing into the NHS
>> and in general the UK becoming an economic and political powerhouse
>> again ... oh wait, that didn't happen, it all went to crap for them, oops.
>>
> Nah, Greater Prosperity is just around the corner; just talk to Richard
> Heathfield.
Riiiiiight.
SCNR,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: EU |
| Message-ID | <10hgvpu$2r3rh$19@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78890 |
On 12/12/2025 09:53, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 09:57:42 +0100 > Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> wrote: > >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially >>>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to >>>> happen for obvious reasons, though. >>> >>> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27 >>> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and >>> climates. >> >> Funnily enough, despite all the grumbling, all EU members joined >> voluntarily. The EU is build not by conquest, but by individual states >> applying to join the club. So if a state doesn't like that, they are, >> of course, also free to leave. Which is what the UK did. It went amazingly >> well of them, with the world lining up at their door to sign amazing trade >> agreements with the UK, lots of money suddenly flowing into the NHS >> and in general the UK becoming an economic and political powerhouse >> again ... oh wait, that didn't happen, it all went to crap for them, oops. >> > Nah, Greater Prosperity is just around the corner; just talk to Richard > Heathfield. > We have yet to have a government that actually tried to exploit the lack of membership. That will change in 4 tears time. -- I was brought up to believe that you should never give offence if you can avoid it; the new culture tells us you should always take offence if you can. There are now experts in the art of taking offence, indeed whole academic subjects, such as 'gender studies', devoted to it. Sir Roger Scruton
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: EU |
| Message-ID | <mq38jlFp7k5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78918 |
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 11:54:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > That will change in 4 tears time. Was that a typo or a subtle statement of the conditions?
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