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Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?

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First post2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
Last post2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
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  Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 11:31 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:15 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:32 +0100
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:08 -0500
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-09 19:51 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:38 -0500
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:35 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 12:50 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:57 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 23:58 -0500
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 11:25 +0000
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 12:48 +0000
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 23:29 -0500
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-09 09:18 -0800
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 20:13 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:47 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:09 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:15 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:23 +0000
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 01:03 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 10:57 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-11 20:50 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:38 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-12 16:38 -0800
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 04:29 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-13 05:07 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:09 -0500
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:42 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:37 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:46 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 05:31 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:00 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 02:08 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:55 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:30 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:56 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:54 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:17 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 10:38 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:20 +0100
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:50 -0500
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:18 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 00:54 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:28 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:25 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:35 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:49 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:49 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:31 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:33 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-11 21:07 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:21 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:13 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 05:40 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:20 -0500
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:31 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:39 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 19:48 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:53 +0100
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 23:51 -0500
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:40 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:01 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:27 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-11-12 12:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 14:17 +0100
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:51 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:38 +0100
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 21:30 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 04:21 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:10 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 02:51 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:08 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:40 +0100
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 16:26 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 19:22 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-14 17:34 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:54 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:37 +0100
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 16:09 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 02:05 +0000
                                        Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-15 09:59 +0000
                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 17:32 +0000
                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-15 18:48 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 21:38 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 22:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 23:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-16 00:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-16 09:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:38 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-18 03:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 13:11 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 03:43 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:47 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:30 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-17 11:39 -0500
                                                Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:31 -0500
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 02:32 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 21:51 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:11 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 05:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-16 12:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 19:57 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-18 08:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-18 12:09 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:56 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:01 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:27 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 10:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 23:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 23:18 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 00:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:27 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 05:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-18 20:04 +0100
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-18 20:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 08:24 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 21:14 +0000
                                                                    ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-15 and their names (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-21 19:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-22 10:23 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
                                                                          Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
                                                                                    Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                                                                                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
                                                                                          Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
                                                                                                        EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:34 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:24 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:47 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
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                                                                                                                      Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 18:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:26 +0100
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                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
                                                                                                            Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:56 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:52 +0100
                                                                          Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-05 01:59 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:05 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-22 20:25 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:02 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:16 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:18 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:38 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:15 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:37 +0100
                                                                ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2025-11-19 14:58 +0100
                                                                  Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-20 02:09 +0000
                                                                    Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-19 20:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 08:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-11-21 12:24 +0100
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-19 13:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-23 16:25 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-25 10:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:05 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 23:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                                                                                            Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                                                                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                                                                                                  Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                  The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
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#80537 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jhb84$3993m$1@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80533
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:50:58 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>
> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*

That’s precisely the point that Peter Flass was trying to make: the
lack of built-in I/O features in a language designed to implement
operating systems isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

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#80552 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jhvpk$3f9k2$2@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80537
On 1/5/26 14:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:50:58 -0800, John Ames wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>
>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
> 
> That’s precisely the point that Peter Flass was trying to make: the
> lack of built-in I/O features in a language designed to implement
> operating systems isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

The I/O package is probably a huge part of any program that uses it. 
printf, for example, needs to support the conversion of all possible 
data types to character for output.

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#80555 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-05 22:58 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ayOdnWidcOLtFcH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80552
On 1/5/26 22:33, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 1/5/26 14:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:50:58 -0800, John Ames wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>
>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>
>> That’s precisely the point that Peter Flass was trying to make: the
>> lack of built-in I/O features in a language designed to implement
>> operating systems isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
> 
> The I/O package is probably a huge part of any program that uses it. 
> printf, for example, needs to support the conversion of all possible 
> data types to character for output.

   GOOD I/O really IS complicated.

   Poor I/O, though, CAN serve.

   But you need SOME I/O for the Real World.

   There were a number of "teaching"/"proof of
   principle" langs invented in the 60s. They
   really weren't meant to be Real World.

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#80550 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-05 20:27 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jhvf2$3f9k2$1@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80533
On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>> interacts directly with the hardware.
> 
> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
> 
> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>    
>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
> 

I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.

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#80554 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-05 22:54 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<T6idneGI_LwWGsH0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80550
On 1/5/26 22:27, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>
>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>
>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>
> 
> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.

   I remember that too, from somewhere ...

   COBOL is NOT so great for the purpose, but it CAN
   be done.

   FORTRAN would have been better.

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#80579 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-06 07:40 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jj6tl$3sddl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80554
On 1/5/26 20:54, c186282 wrote:
> On 1/5/26 22:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>
>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>>
>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>
>>
>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
> 
>    I remember that too, from somewhere ...
> 
>    COBOL is NOT so great for the purpose, but it CAN
>    be done.
> 
>    FORTRAN would have been better.
> 

I think early versions of PRIMOS were written in FORTRAN before they 
switched to their own language.

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#80556 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10ji1tk$3fsod$2@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80550
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 20:27:30 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.

Microkernel-based, no doubt.

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#80565 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jin2s$3lvil$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80550
On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>
>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>
>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>
> 
> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.

 From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.

-- 
“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy

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#80581 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jj78r$3sddl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80565
On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>
>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>>
>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>
>>
>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
> 
>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.

Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.

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#80594 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jjg7k$5l5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80581
On 06/01/2026 14:46, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>
>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the 
>>>> OS.*
>>>>
>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, 
>>>> but
>>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>
>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
> 
> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.
> 
Well I will simply disagree. Business transactions are very simple beasts.


-- 
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight 
and understanding".

Marshall McLuhan

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#80610 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jjoeb$33ap$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80594
On 1/6/26 10:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/01/2026 14:46, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the 
>>>>> OS.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare 
>>>>> metal, but
>>>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>
>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>
>> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.
>>
> Well I will simply disagree. Business transactions are very simple beasts.

Higher-level in that it's further abstracted from the details of 
hardware architecture than C.

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#80611 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromcross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Date2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jjpdm$p56$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#80594
In article <10jjg7k$5l5$2@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher  <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 06/01/2026 14:46, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the 
>>>>> OS.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, 
>>>>> but
>>>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>
>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>> 
>> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.
> 
>Well I will simply disagree. Business transactions are very simple beasts.

I think it's best to think of COBOL as a DSL for business data
processing.  Sure, one can write a compiler in it...but one can
also write a compiler in `sed`.  Outside of a satisfying a dare
or winning a bet, it doesn't seem like a very good idea.

	- Dan C.

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#80654 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<h7n7R.1472893$79B9.941556@fx14.iad>
In reply to#80611
On 2026-01-06, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:

> In article <10jjg7k$5l5$2@dont-email.me>,
> The Natural Philosopher  <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 06/01/2026 14:46, Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.

<snicker>

>>> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.
>> 
>> Well I will simply disagree. Business transactions are very simple beasts.

You've never worked on a payroll system, have you?

> I think it's best to think of COBOL as a DSL for business data
> processing.  Sure, one can write a compiler in it...but one can
> also write a compiler in `sed`.  Outside of a satisfying a dare
> or winning a bet, it doesn't seem like a very good idea.

A friend once wrote an 8080 cross-assembler in COBOL.
It ran rings around Univac's official cross-assembler -
which was written in FORTRAN.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80661 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jl9u8$h5hi$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80654
On 07/01/2026 06:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-01-06, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
> 
>> In article <10jjg7k$5l5$2@dont-email.me>,
>> The Natural Philosopher  <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/01/2026 14:46, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
> 
> <snicker>
> 
>>>> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.
>>>
>>> Well I will simply disagree. Business transactions are very simple beasts.
> 
> You've never worked on a payroll system, have you?
Yes. I have,

> 
>> I think it's best to think of COBOL as a DSL for business data
>> processing.  Sure, one can write a compiler in it...but one can
>> also write a compiler in `sed`.  Outside of a satisfying a dare
>> or winning a bet, it doesn't seem like a very good idea.
> 
> A friend once wrote an 8080 cross-assembler in COBOL.
> It ran rings around Univac's official cross-assembler -
> which was written in FORTRAN.
> 

-- 
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that 
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell

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#80612 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jjpfv$3iqe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80581
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 07:46:51 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>
> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.

The irony of COBOL is that it was designed strictly for “business”
needs, but the definition of “business” needs the committee used was
frozen in time at about 1960, and never made much progress afterwards.

For example: no support for transaction processing. And no support for
relational databases, either: only quick-and-dirty proprietary
tacked-on extensions, that never matured into an actual part of the
official language spec.

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#80625 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<Vvf7R.805814$i%aa.10808@fx12.iad>
In reply to#80612
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 07:46:51 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>
>> On 1/6/26 03:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>
>> Nothing at all like it. Higher-level than C, for example.
>
>The irony of COBOL is that it was designed strictly for “business”
>needs, but the definition of “business” needs the committee used was
>frozen in time at about 1960, and never made much progress afterwards.
>
>For example: no support for transaction processing.

Upon what do you base that statement?   Burroughs COBOL (both '68 and '74) supported
OLTP from the early 1970's on both V-series and A-series lines.

Granted, like every other COBOL compiler in those times, there were
proprietary extensions to support OLTP; but then bespoke software portability
wasn't a goal in that era.

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#80607 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ms55ehFqgiaU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80565
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 10:10:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700 Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>
>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the
>>> OS.*
>>>
>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal,
>>>    but the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the
>>>    less suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any*
>>>    language that's not designed for systems programming will
>>>    ultimately get pressed into service for systems programming 
>>>    *somewhere...*)
>>>
>>>
>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
> 
>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.


if MOVE BC INTO REGISTER DE looks like assembler

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#80621 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ZN-dnYy-SfLC5MD0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80565
On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>
>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>>
>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>
>>
>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
> 
>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.


   If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)

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#80636 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromcross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Date2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jk6o6$mmg$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#80621
In article <ZN-dnYy-SfLC5MD0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>,
c186282  <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>
>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>>>
>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>> 
>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>
>
>   If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)

MOVE THE IMMEDIATE MODE OPERAND WITH VALUE 42 INTO REGISTER A0
  AND ADD THE VALUE AT THE LOCATION 1234 DECIMAL GIVING A BYTE
  RESULT STORING INTO REGISTER "Z ZERO"

	- Dan C.

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#80665 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlam2$h5hi$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80636
On 06/01/2026 23:44, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <ZN-dnYy-SfLC5MD0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>,
> c186282  <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>>     to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>>>>     the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>>     suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>>     Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>>     that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>>     pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>
>>>   From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>
>>
>>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
> 
> MOVE THE IMMEDIATE MODE OPERAND WITH VALUE 42 INTO REGISTER A0
>    AND ADD THE VALUE AT THE LOCATION 1234 DECIMAL GIVING A BYTE
>    RESULT STORING INTO REGISTER "Z ZERO"
> 
Well at least its unambiguous...


> 	- Dan C.
> 

-- 
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and 
higher education positively fortifies it."

    - Stephen Vizinczey

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