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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Started byAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
First post2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Last post2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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  Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
                                              Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
                                                                      LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
                                                                        Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
                                                                                  Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
                                                                                      Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
                                                                                Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
                                                                            Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
                                                                            TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
                                                                        Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
                                                                            Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
                                                                                      Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
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                                                                                                                    Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
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                                                                                                                                      City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                          Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:03 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Punt guns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:06 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:25 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Bears "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                Repopulating bears, wolves... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100
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                                                                                              Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
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                                                                                    Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
                                                                  Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
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                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
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                                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
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                                                                                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                                                                                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                                          OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                                              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
                                                Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100

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#76733

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
Message-ID<pJScnfPvlZ5tS2P1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#76717
On 10/26/25 09:53, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 25-10-2025, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
>> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land
>>> but not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt
>>> them than to coin new ones.
>>
>> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)
> 
> Exactly. Well, I mean that logiciel and ordinateur were words coined
> well before I was born. So, at that time, only a limited number of guys
> were discovering computers. And so, it was easy to coin a new term
> before it was well spread. Now, with emails and bugs, the words are well
> spread before the forty morons decide they must be replaced by French
> ones. And except very rare words like conteneur for container, no new
> term in tech is translated as long as it stays among the tech guys. When
> they start to be used by street people, things start to be different.
> 
>>> That's nothing new to me. Another reason is some French people don't
>>> speak English but want to make believe they know it to sound could
>>> and are using English words.
>>>
>>> But what is "new" to me, I mean not from yesterday, but from a few
>>> years, is that it works in the other way around, too. Some French
>>> words are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far
>>> more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>
>> Heck, French has been a “cool” language for centuries, and not just
>> among English speakers.
> 
> Yes. In the past. Not so long ago French was used in English and Russian
> courts. But it's the past. Even if it's not that old.
> 
>> What you said above about English becoming
>> “cool” to French people ... now that is a big surprise, and seems a
>> more recent development.
> 
> You shouldn't. If you hear people fighting against English words coming
> into French, it means, there are French guys who are using those words.
> And those words are technical words, so they are used by technical guys
> because they don't have better words. But at the same time, they are
> used by not technical guys who want to make look like they now their
> stuff. So, they are using those words just because they sound cool.
> That's not that new. In shit, like advertisement, people were using
> English words decades ago to make their speech look like it's serious
> when it's only bullshit.
> 
> Well from an historical perspective, it's very recent. But from a
> lifetime one, it's not.


   Everybody invaded/colonized everyone else in
   Europe/UK so often that "foreign" words and
   customs aren't worth mentioning.

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#76740

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
Message-ID<10dnahi$kooh$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76733
On 27/10/2025 02:20, c186282 wrote:
> Everybody invaded/colonized everyone else in
>    Europe/UK so often that "foreign" words and
>    customs aren't worth mentioning.

I think that is probably the final statement.  Western Europe splits 
into two groups - the Germanic languages and the Romance. English is a 
hybrid of both with smatterings of Celtic languages thrown in. And, 
latterly, Malay, Hindi, Arabic, Bantu....and anything else that was handy.

All broadly Indo European. Except the far East bits.


-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

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#76953

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
Message-ID<69076692$0$5101$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#76733
Le 27-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>
>    Everybody invaded/colonized everyone else in
>    Europe/UK so often that "foreign" words and
>    customs aren't worth mentioning.

You say that because you aren't interested in history. But when someone
is interested in history, knowing where a word is coming from, when it
came in the language and why is very interesting. Your lack of interest
is only your: you are not the only one whose opinion matters. You should
avoid imposing your opinion on others. I know, here the far right and
far left are very numerous, but they are equally wrong in the belief
that everyone outside of they vision should be killed.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#76954

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
Message-ID<10e7p1t$24ums$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76953
On 02/11/2025 14:11, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 27-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>
>>     Everybody invaded/colonized everyone else in
>>     Europe/UK so often that "foreign" words and
>>     customs aren't worth mentioning.
> 
> You say that because you aren't interested in history. But when someone
> is interested in history, knowing where a word is coming from, when it
> came in the language and why is very interesting. Your lack of interest
> is only your: you are not the only one whose opinion matters. You should
> avoid imposing your opinion on others. I know, here the far right and
> far left are very numerous, but they are equally wrong in the belief
> that everyone outside of they vision should be killed.
> 

Not even the far right think that. Only the Islamist Jihadis. And some 
of the mentally unstable far left.

But it is correct that the greatest insights into people's worldviews 
happen when they criticise the worldviews of others.


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#76980

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
Message-ID<6jdltlxus1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76954
On 2025-11-02 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 02/11/2025 14:11, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 27-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>>     Everybody invaded/colonized everyone else in
>>>     Europe/UK so often that "foreign" words and
>>>     customs aren't worth mentioning.
>>
>> You say that because you aren't interested in history. But when someone
>> is interested in history, knowing where a word is coming from, when it
>> came in the language and why is very interesting. Your lack of interest
>> is only your: you are not the only one whose opinion matters. You should
>> avoid imposing your opinion on others. I know, here the far right and
>> far left are very numerous, but they are equally wrong in the belief
>> that everyone outside of they vision should be killed.
>>
> 
> Not even the far right think that. 

Yes, they do. I have seen them actually try.

> Only the Islamist Jihadis. And some 
> of the mentally unstable far left.
> 
> But it is correct that the greatest insights into people's worldviews 
> happen when they criticise the worldviews of others.
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76986 — OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
SubjectOT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?
Message-ID<10e957o$2j865$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76980

On 11/2/25 17:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-11-02 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 02/11/2025 14:11, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>> Le 27-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>     Everybody invaded/colonized everyone else in
>>>>     Europe/UK so often that "foreign" words and
>>>>     customs aren't worth mentioning.
>>>
>>> You say that because you aren't interested in history. But when someone
>>> is interested in history, knowing where a word is coming from, when it
>>> came in the language and why is very interesting. Your lack of interest
>>> is only your: you are not the only one whose opinion matters. You should
>>> avoid imposing your opinion on others. I know, here the far right and
>>> far left are very numerous, but they are equally wrong in the belief
>>> that everyone outside of they vision should be killed.
>>>
>>
>> Not even the far right think that. 
> 
> Yes, they do. I have seen them actually try.

		They do that is why the far right is so dangerous.
They spread the idea that parts of society are so evil they must be
killed and the next thing you know someone takes them as seriously
as they do themselves.  They show up at events and commit murders
of Jews, Homosexuals, Catholics at mass, blowup churchs that belong
to black people.  i am not talking about imaginary events but those
that have happened in the USA.
	In France the events have been from your Right wing religious
nut cases who just happen to be Muslims.  In other nations other
horrible events have happened based on the same Islamic-Fascism..

> 
>> Only the Islamist Jihadis. And some of the mentally unstable far left.

	Baloney. Far left in the America's is confined to Cuba and Venezula
and their governments struggle for power when they lose an election.
Of course in Cuba only one party is allowed.  In Venezula they
ignore the result of an election and persecute the winner.

	Here in the USA we had one man who killed a good man and
barely wounded his target and he was neither right nor left but
confused by the rhetoric of the Right Wing decided assassination was
the game to play.  Another did not even get his rifle out of the car
before he was apprended.

	In Brazil we had a Right winger who approved of the Death Squads
  terrorizing and Murdering people whom they thought were not good people
based on their faiths or merely on the intent to show they were in control.

	He was replaced with a Centrist whom Trump would like to replace and
the former Right Winger Bolsonaro was sent to prison.>>
>> But it is correct that the greatest insights into people's worldviews 
>> happen when they criticise the worldviews of others.

	Have you heard of or read Project 2025 in the the USA. It is the fever
dream of the Christo-Fascists.  To turn a secular nation from the path of
the founders to create a Theocracy.  They don't care what damage the
citizens will sustain and this is the book Trump has been following while
denying the same.


bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.10 Linux 6.12.56-pclos1- KDE 
Plasma 6.5.0

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#76988 — Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
SubjectRe: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?
Message-ID<mmr1thF6gaiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76986
On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 18:49:26 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> They show up at events and commit murders
> of Jews, Homosexuals, Catholics at mass, blowup churchs that belong
> to black people.  i am not talking about imaginary events but those
> that have happened in the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation_Catholic_Church_shooting

Too bad the shooter at the Catholic church was a trannie. 

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#77002 — Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
SubjectRe: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?
Message-ID<10eakmk$30g36$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76988

On 11/2/25 22:54, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 18:49:26 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
>> They show up at events and commit murders
>> of Jews, Homosexuals, Catholics at mass, blowup churchs that belong
>> to black people.  i am not talking about imaginary events but those
>> that have happened in the USA.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation_Catholic_Church_shooting
> 
> Too bad the shooter at the Catholic church was a trannie.

	I have met many disturbed people who believed that they were transgender
people.  Generally they continued their slow self-destruction with 
alcohol or other
drugs  but some committed suicide.  But when you blame groups of people for
the unhappiness that pervades society due to various problems then you 
will have
confused people.

	Transgender people are only interested in transitioning from whatever their
present designation is to another and they concentrate on following 
doctor's
directions and trying to save money for whatever surgery they want to have.
Some don't want surgery at all because they want to be women or men and
are not satisfied with the current state of body modification surgeries 
which
are quite primitive.
	
	And if you are keeping score lots of Transgender Male to Female variety
are murdered but I think women are far ahead in terms of death and survivial
of violence usually by males.  But even Brandon Teena a Female to Male
transgender was murdered out of male jealousy.  He was taking the women
that males considered their local property away, they thought.
<https://www.triviavoices.com/the-inconvenient-truth-about-teena-brandon.html>
An incest survivor.

	Researching this i read about other murders which were not as well
publicized.  For Transgender Male to Female there are lists.
<https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 
List_of_people_killed_for_being_transgender>

	These murders are endless and few male to female transgender realize
that in asserting that they are women they open themselved to misogenic
violence.  Femicide is the term used.
<https://vpc.org/press/nearly-nine-out-of-10-women-murdered-by-men-are-killed-by-someone-they-know-and-two-thirds-die-by-gunfire-new-violence-policy-center-study-finds/>

	That raises several other questions ignored by the violence wing of the
  former Republican Party.  Some want to call it the Rebelpuclican party 
since
  it advocates a return to the White Male Supremacy of the Confederacy.
		
	bliss
	

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#76993 — Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
SubjectRe: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?
Message-ID<10e9vhc$2pbk3$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76986
On 03/11/2025 02:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>          They do that is why the far right is so dangerous.
> They spread the idea that parts of society are so evil they must be
> killed and the next thing you know someone takes them as seriously
> as they do themselves.  They show up at events and commit murders
> of Jews, Homosexuals, Catholics at mass, blowup churchs that belong
> to black people.  i am not talking about imaginary events but those
> that have happened in the USA.
>      In France the events have been from your Right wing religious
> nut cases who just happen to be Muslims.  In other nations other
> horrible events have happened based on the same Islamic-Fascism..

No. The far left is the group embracing Muslims and chanting 
anti-semitic slogans here.


-- 
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, 
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

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#76748

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
Message-ID<20251027093408.00001ae5@gmail.com>
In reply to#76664
On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT
Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

> But what is "new" to me, I mean not from yesterday, but from a few
> years, is that it works in the other way around, too. Some French
> words are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far
> more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.

Yeah - English speakers adopting French terms isn't as common as it used
to be,* but a lot of the expressions that have been imported over the
centuries are still in semi-common use.

* (It'd be interesting to trace this behavior in a global context over
  time - these days, for example, most of our novel loanwords seem to
  come from Japanese, post-anime boom.)

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#76760

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
Message-ID<mma6cvFb82dU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76748
On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:34:08 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> * (It'd be interesting to trace this behavior in a global context over
>   time - these days, for example, most of our novel loanwords seem to
>   come from Japanese, post-anime boom.)

https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/

"The name Omarchy appears to be a portmanteau of Arch, the Linux 
distribution that Hansson’s configuration is based upon, and お任せ, which 
translates to omakase and means to leave something up to someone else (任せ
る, makaseru, to entrust). When ordering omakase in a restaurant, you’re 
leaving it up to the chef to serve you whatever they think is best. 
Oma(kase) + (A)rch + y is supposedly where the name comes from."

I haven't seen Hansson explain the name. He might be right. 

https://anarchyinstaller.gitlab.io/

The Anarchy installer is more explicit :)

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#76348

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
Message-ID<kY-cnTj8wb50CWn1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#76314
On 10/18/25 12:24, Rich wrote:
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>> Le 11-10-2025, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 17:48:23 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-10-11, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 10-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yea, great, half a zillion lines of HTML, PHP and fuckin'
>>>>>>     JAVASCRIPT ........
>>>>>
>>>>> You remind me of a good example of a difficult thing to translate. In
>>>>> French, I'm calling javascript: cacascript. Because in French caca
>>>>> means shit. So any French speaker reading/hearing cacascript can
>>>>> understand it's shit designing javascript. I have no idea how it could
>>>>> be translated in English because shitscript could be understood as any
>>>>> scripting language.
>>>>
>>>> We sometimes use "caca" to mean "shit" in English too.
>>
>> I didn't knew that.
> 
> English has borrowed many words from many other languages, French
> included.  "Caca" is likely an example of on that English has borrowed
> from French.
> 
> English meaning is the same as in French:
> 
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caca


   "English" is a huge "pidgeon" ... a mix of every
   language belonging to its many many invaders.

   IS good for coming up with new terms however.

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#75953

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
Message-ID<10cebb6$10h1p$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#75946
On 11 Oct 2025 15:10:28 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> In French, I'm calling javascript: cacascript. Because in French
> caca means shit. So any French speaker reading/hearing cacascript
> can understand it's shit designing javascript.

JavaScript actually has some good parts. It also now has “strict mode”, so 
you can protect yourself from some of the stupider parts.

Of course, I mainly use it in web pages. I have no experience writing code 
for NodeJS, for example, so someone who had to might have a different 
opinion ...

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#75969

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
Message-ID<ml0erpFh6skU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#75953
On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 19:31:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On 11 Oct 2025 15:10:28 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>> In French, I'm calling javascript: cacascript. Because in French caca
>> means shit. So any French speaker reading/hearing cacascript can
>> understand it's shit designing javascript.
> 
> JavaScript actually has some good parts. It also now has “strict mode”,
> so you can protect yourself from some of the stupider parts.
> 
> Of course, I mainly use it in web pages. I have no experience writing
> code for NodeJS, for example, so someone who had to might have a
> different opinion ...

TypeScript helps a little but it isn't foolproof. One of our spelling challenged programmers inadvertently added a field to the equivalent of a C struct.   Setting baar = true doesn't help much when another section of code checks for the value of bar. 

I wonder if Eich ever wakes up at 3 AM wondering about what he unleashed on the world?

https://thenewstack.io/brendan-eich-on-creating-javascript-in-10-days-and-what-hed-do-differently-today/


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#75957

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
Message-ID<2lsqrlxj0t.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#75946
On 2025-10-11 17:10, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 10-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>
>>     Yea, great, half a zillion lines of HTML, PHP and
>>     fuckin' JAVASCRIPT ........
> 
> You remind me of a good example of a difficult thing to translate. In
> French, I'm calling javascript: cacascript. Because in French caca means
> shit. 

Hehe, same meaning in Spanish :-D

> So any French speaker reading/hearing cacascript can understand
> it's shit designing javascript. I have no idea how it could be
> translated in English because shitscript could be understood as any
> scripting language.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75961

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
Message-ID<10cemsb$13ku8$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#75957
On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:52:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Because in French caca means shit.
> 
> Hehe, same meaning in Spanish :-D

I often wondered about “Lake Titicaca” ...

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#75963

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
Message-ID<j6arrlx2l1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#75961
On 2025-10-12 00:48, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:52:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Because in French caca means shit.
>>
>> Hehe, same meaning in Spanish :-D
> 
> I often wondered about “Lake Titicaca” ...

:-)

Must derive from a local language, I guess.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75995

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
Message-ID<10cg2e6$1dscj$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#75963
On 12/10/2025 01:43, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-10-12 00:48, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:52:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Because in French caca means shit.
>>>
>>> Hehe, same meaning in Spanish :-D
>>
>> I often wondered about “Lake Titicaca” ...
> 
> :-)
> 
> Must derive from a local language, I guess.
> 
"The name "Titicaca" is widely believed to be a Spanish corruption of 
the Aymara phrase titi qala or titi q'aq'a, meaning "stone puma" or 
"gray puma". This name likely refers to the lake's shape, which 
resembles a puma, or to a sacred carved rock on Isla del Sol that has 
the shape of a puma"

-- 
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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#75973

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
Message-ID<W-WcnRpsBfS4kXb1nZ2dnZfqnPhj4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#75946
On 10/11/25 11:10, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 10-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>
>>     Yea, great, half a zillion lines of HTML, PHP and
>>     fuckin' JAVASCRIPT ........
> 
> You remind me of a good example of a difficult thing to translate. In
> French, I'm calling javascript: cacascript. Because in French caca means
> shit. So any French speaker reading/hearing cacascript can understand
> it's shit designing javascript. I have no idea how it could be
> translated in English because shitscript could be understood as any
> scripting language.

   Well, even without perfect translation, we all GET IT  :-)

   PHP is bliss by comparison.

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#75982

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
Message-ID<ml10ohFjo94U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#75973
On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:02:11 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 10/11/25 11:10, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 10-10-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>>     Yea, great, half a zillion lines of HTML, PHP and fuckin'
>>>     JAVASCRIPT ........
>> 
>> You remind me of a good example of a difficult thing to translate. In
>> French, I'm calling javascript: cacascript. Because in French caca
>> means shit. So any French speaker reading/hearing cacascript can
>> understand it's shit designing javascript. I have no idea how it could
>> be translated in English because shitscript could be understood as any
>> scripting language.
> 
>    Well, even without perfect translation, we all GET IT  :-)
> 
>    PHP is bliss by comparison.

It was a sad day when Personal Home Page survived the era when Mon and Pop 
clobbered together a HTML 2.0 website.

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