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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Started byAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
First post2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Last post2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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  Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
                                              Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
                                                                      LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
                                                                        Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
                                                                                  Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
                                                                                      Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
                                                                                Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
                                                                            Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
                                                                            TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
                                                                        Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
                                                                            Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
                                                                                      Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
                                                                  Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
                                                                        Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
                                                                                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                                                                                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                                          OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                                              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
                                                Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100

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#77083 — Re: Flashlights

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<slrn10gs70k.313vj.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#77077
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.
>> 
>> I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on hand.
>> I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is C. I
>> had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap around an AA
>> to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they don't last as long
>> but it's convenient.
>
>    Actually, 'C' flashlights are probably the
>    most handy size - but you don't see many of
>    them, indeed not many 'C' devices at all.
>    Not sure why. Used to see a lot more.
>
>    Once had a 'portable' reel-2-reel tape recorder
>    (almost the size of a fire brick) and it used
>    four 'C' cells. Worked well.
>
>    MagLite DOES make some of the LED units in 'C'
>    size however.


Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
one sold.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#77084 — Re: Flashlights

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<10elco8$21cka$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77083
On 07/11/2025 16:20, candycanearter07 wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.
>>>
>>> I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on hand.
>>> I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is C. I
>>> had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap around an AA
>>> to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they don't last as long
>>> but it's convenient.
>>
>>     Actually, 'C' flashlights are probably the
>>     most handy size - but you don't see many of
>>     them, indeed not many 'C' devices at all.
>>     Not sure why. Used to see a lot more.
>>
>>     Once had a 'portable' reel-2-reel tape recorder
>>     (almost the size of a fire brick) and it used
>>     four 'C' cells. Worked well.
>>
>>     MagLite DOES make some of the LED units in 'C'
>>     size however.
> 
> 
> Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
> one sold.

is that the old U11/HP11 size?

Plenty still in stores everywhere in the UK. I have a torch that takes them


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#77085 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mn6tc8F7de6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77083
On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 16:20:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.
>>> 
>>> I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on
>>> hand.
>>> I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is
>>> C. I had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap
>>> around an AA to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they
>>> don't last as long but it's convenient.
>>
>>    Actually, 'C' flashlights are probably the most handy size - but you
>>    don't see many of them, indeed not many 'C' devices at all.
>>    Not sure why. Used to see a lot more.
>>
>>    Once had a 'portable' reel-2-reel tape recorder (almost the size of
>>    a fire brick) and it used four 'C' cells. Worked well.
>>
>>    MagLite DOES make some of the LED units in 'C' size however.
> 
> 
> Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
> one sold.

I found them in the supermarket endcap with the other batteries. There 
isn't the selection that AAA, AA, and D have but they're there.

It turned out the LED module itself was bad so now I have C batteries and 
nothing to do with them. I'll have to get a couple of battery holders. 

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#77087 — Re: Flashlights

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<tn52ulxh6a.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77083
On 2025-11-07 17:20, candycanearter07 wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.
>>>
>>> I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on hand.
>>> I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is C. I
>>> had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap around an AA
>>> to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they don't last as long
>>> but it's convenient.
>>
>>     Actually, 'C' flashlights are probably the
>>     most handy size - but you don't see many of
>>     them, indeed not many 'C' devices at all.
>>     Not sure why. Used to see a lot more.
>>
>>     Once had a 'portable' reel-2-reel tape recorder
>>     (almost the size of a fire brick) and it used
>>     four 'C' cells. Worked well.
>>
>>     MagLite DOES make some of the LED units in 'C'
>>     size however.
> 
> 
> Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
> one sold.

Amazon sells them here (Spain). I see them in other places, too.
I have a radio that uses them.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
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#77089 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<yaOcnUJKEemAO5P0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77083
On 11/7/25 11:20, candycanearter07 wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.
>>>
>>> I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on hand.
>>> I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is C. I
>>> had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap around an AA
>>> to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they don't last as long
>>> but it's convenient.
>>
>>     Actually, 'C' flashlights are probably the
>>     most handy size - but you don't see many of
>>     them, indeed not many 'C' devices at all.
>>     Not sure why. Used to see a lot more.
>>
>>     Once had a 'portable' reel-2-reel tape recorder
>>     (almost the size of a fire brick) and it used
>>     four 'C' cells. Worked well.
>>
>>     MagLite DOES make some of the LED units in 'C'
>>     size however.
> 
> 
> Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
> one sold.


   Still see them on store shelves in the USA, even
   grocery stores.

   As said, a lot of the new stuff is either a LOT of
   AAA/AA batteries or 'D' cells.

   But I think 'C's still have their place.

   What's harder to find in the USA are the rectangle
   9-v batteries. I have some smoke detectors that use
   those. Used to be very popular for small radios, but
   now you don't see them as much. There ARE 'long life'
   9Vs to be had, but you have to go to Amazon.

   Anyway, for handy flashlights, 'C's are still maybe
   the best. Not as fat/heavy as 'D's.

   Have several 'storm lights' that use four to six 'D's.
   They WILL burn for a very long time. However they are
   not 'handy' units. Also can't get lithium 'D's.

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#77109 — Re: Flashlights

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<eqp3ulxbp7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77089
On 2025-11-08 03:08, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/7/25 11:20, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
>>> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

...

>> Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
>> one sold.
> 
> 
>    Still see them on store shelves in the USA, even
>    grocery stores.
> 
>    As said, a lot of the new stuff is either a LOT of
>    AAA/AA batteries or 'D' cells.
> 
>    But I think 'C's still have their place.
> 
>    What's harder to find in the USA are the rectangle
>    9-v batteries. I have some smoke detectors that use
>    those. Used to be very popular for small radios, but
>    now you don't see them as much. There ARE 'long life'
>    9Vs to be had, but you have to go to Amazon.

Curious. A lot of the smoke detectors used in Canada use those 9V 
batteries. They seem to be mandatory.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77122 — Re: Flashlights

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<fTJPQ.1249988$k_17.451711@fx10.iad>
In reply to#77109
On 2025-11-08, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> On 2025-11-08 03:08, c186282 wrote:
>
>>    What's harder to find in the USA are the rectangle
>>    9-v batteries. I have some smoke detectors that use
>>    those. Used to be very popular for small radios, but
>>    now you don't see them as much. There ARE 'long life'
>>    9Vs to be had, but you have to go to Amazon.
>
> Curious. A lot of the smoke detectors used in Canada use those 9V 
> batteries. They seem to be mandatory.

I wouldn't use the term "mandatory".  Ubiquitous, perhaps.
But you're right about smoke detectors - 9V seems to be the
battery of choice, at least for manufacturers here in Canada.
And I can go to Costco anytime and pick up 9V batteries in
packs of 10.  No problem.  Not yet, anyway.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#77129 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mn9m5cFm5j3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77122
On Sat, 08 Nov 2025 16:05:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-11-08, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-11-08 03:08, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>    What's harder to find in the USA are the rectangle 9-v batteries.
>>>    I have some smoke detectors that use those. Used to be very
>>>    popular for small radios, but now you don't see them as much.
>>>    There ARE 'long life'
>>>    9Vs to be had, but you have to go to Amazon.
>>
>> Curious. A lot of the smoke detectors used in Canada use those 9V
>> batteries. They seem to be mandatory.
> 
> I wouldn't use the term "mandatory".  Ubiquitous, perhaps. But you're
> right about smoke detectors - 9V seems to be the battery of choice, at
> least for manufacturers here in Canada.
> And I can go to Costco anytime and pick up 9V batteries in packs of 10. 
> No problem.  Not yet, anyway.

I've not had any problem finding them. I tossed the battery in the smoke 
detector a long time ago since it didn't fit with my cooking style but I 
have several other devices that use them. I've got a couple sitting here 
with a short pigtail, snap connentor on the battery side, barrel connector 
that matches the Arduino Uno on the other.  They're a lot handier than a 
battery holder for AAs or 18650s.

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#77154 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<YxKdnWlfif1cvY30nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77109
On 11/8/25 07:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-11-08 03:08, c186282 wrote:
>> On 11/7/25 11:20, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 22:30 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>> On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>> Are C batteries more common where you are? I don't remember ever seeing
>>> one sold.
>>
>>
>>    Still see them on store shelves in the USA, even
>>    grocery stores.
>>
>>    As said, a lot of the new stuff is either a LOT of
>>    AAA/AA batteries or 'D' cells.
>>
>>    But I think 'C's still have their place.
>>
>>    What's harder to find in the USA are the rectangle
>>    9-v batteries. I have some smoke detectors that use
>>    those. Used to be very popular for small radios, but
>>    now you don't see them as much. There ARE 'long life'
>>    9Vs to be had, but you have to go to Amazon.
> 
> Curious. A lot of the smoke detectors used in Canada use those 9V 
> batteries. They seem to be mandatory.


   Seems like most detectors sold in USA now have
   some kind of non-replacable "10-year" battery.

   Not sure how long the Californium in the detectors
   lasts ... it'll eventually stop making so many ions.

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#77193 — Re: Flashlights

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<tx6QQ.1157269$2R62.967536@fx13.iad>
In reply to#77154
On 2025-11-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    Seems like most detectors sold in USA now have
>    some kind of non-replacable "10-year" battery.
>
>    Not sure how long the Californium in the detectors
>    lasts ... it'll eventually stop making so many ions.

Is californium the latest thing?  All smoke detectors I've
looked at use americium 241, whose half-life is 432.6 years.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#77230 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<tIecnTWREu-I5oz0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77193
On 11/9/25 15:08, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-11-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>>     Seems like most detectors sold in USA now have
>>     some kind of non-replacable "10-year" battery.
>>
>>     Not sure how long the Californium in the detectors
>>     lasts ... it'll eventually stop making so many ions.
> 
> Is californium the latest thing?  All smoke detectors I've
> looked at use americium 241, whose half-life is 432.6 years.

   My mistake !

   I wonder how much of it gets quietly buried
   in landfill sites ??? It's not a super hostile
   isotope, but IS still radioactive and you do
   not want it seeping into yer ground-water.

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#77254 — Re: Flashlights

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<10eski1$3veh8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77230
On 10/11/2025 05:41, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/9/25 15:08, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-11-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>
>>>     Seems like most detectors sold in USA now have
>>>     some kind of non-replacable "10-year" battery.
>>>
>>>     Not sure how long the Californium in the detectors
>>>     lasts ... it'll eventually stop making so many ions.
>>
>> Is californium the latest thing?  All smoke detectors I've
>> looked at use americium 241, whose half-life is 432.6 years.
> 
>    My mistake !
> 
>    I wonder how much of it gets quietly buried
>    in landfill sites ??? It's not a super hostile
>    isotope, but IS still radioactive and you do
>    not want it seeping into yer ground-water.
> 

All of it goes to landfill. It's not especially radioactive and its 
ability to stay on the body is very very low.

-- 
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly 
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential 
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations 
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with 
what it actually is.

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#77221 — Re: Flashlights

FromJohn-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net>
Date2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mncoj1F25s5U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77154
On 2025-11-09 12:04 a.m., c186282 wrote:
> On 11/8/25 07:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> Curious. A lot of the smoke detectors used in Canada use those 9V
>> batteries. They seem to be mandatory.
> 
> 
>   Seems like most detectors sold in USA now have
>   some kind of non-replacable "10-year" battery.
> 
>   Not sure how long the Californium in the detectors
>   lasts ... it'll eventually stop making so many ions.

I don't know about the ones in the USA, but here in Canada, the smoke
detectors I'm familiar with have the 10 year battery built-in which
corresponds to the 10 year life of whatever is in the detector itself.
They're advertised as "maintenance free" with a "lifetime battery".

All detectors come with expiry stickers you're supposed to put on when
you install them, and you're expected to replace the whole detector
every 10 years.  Using a regular 9-volt battery you're supposed to
replace the battery every year and replace the rest of the detector
after 10.

Also, the ones I've had with 10 year batteries only use the battery as
backup in the event of power failure.  They're hardwired to a 120 volt
household circuit for primary power.  There are similar hardwired ones
with 9-volt backup batteries as well as models that are solely powered
by the 9-volt battery for places where hardwired ones aren't viable.

But in all cases smoke detectors are presumed to only be good for 10 years.

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#77232 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<tIecnTSREu9v44z0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77221
T
On 11/9/25 19:05, John-Paul Stewart wrote:
> On 2025-11-09 12:04 a.m., c186282 wrote:
>> On 11/8/25 07:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>> Curious. A lot of the smoke detectors used in Canada use those 9V
>>> batteries. They seem to be mandatory.
>>
>>
>>    Seems like most detectors sold in USA now have
>>    some kind of non-replacable "10-year" battery.
>>
>>    Not sure how long the Californium in the detectors
>>    lasts ... it'll eventually stop making so many ions.
> 
> I don't know about the ones in the USA, but here in Canada, the smoke
> detectors I'm familiar with have the 10 year battery built-in which
> corresponds to the 10 year life of whatever is in the detector itself.
> They're advertised as "maintenance free" with a "lifetime battery".


   Yep, my experience in the USA now too.


> All detectors come with expiry stickers you're supposed to put on when
> you install them, and you're expected to replace the whole detector
> every 10 years.  Using a regular 9-volt battery you're supposed to
> replace the battery every year and replace the rest of the detector
> after 10.
> 
> Also, the ones I've had with 10 year batteries only use the battery as
> backup in the event of power failure.  They're hardwired to a 120 volt
> household circuit for primary power.  There are similar hardwired ones
> with 9-volt backup batteries as well as models that are solely powered
> by the 9-volt battery for places where hardwired ones aren't viable.
> 
> But in all cases smoke detectors are presumed to only be good for 10 years.

   The isotope, Americium-241, doesn't have THAT long
   a half-life. It's required to generate a little
   ionized air a tiny current can flow through - which
   the detectors can read. Big change = FIRE.

   The best detectors use ionization PLUS photo-detection.
   However photo uses more amps. Some also detect heat,
   but again more amps.

   There MAY be some concerns about DISPOSING of
   expired units. The lithium batteries are a
   fire concern and then there's the radioactive
   stuff as well. NOBODY 'disposes of them properly',
   they just chuck them in the trash bin.

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#77052 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<SeycnTsagu6yj5H0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77040
On 11/5/25 11:33, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>     Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of power-control
>>     module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as 'backup' flashlights.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
> 
> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
> 
  $19.95 for most drop-in 'upgrades'. About 200 lumens
  compared to 1000 in the new units. Not sure about how
  well you can focus the beam with the LED either.

  Falls into the "MAY be worth it" range.

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#77061 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mn2orfFh2lrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77052
On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 22:12:41 -0500, c186282 wrote:

> On 11/5/25 11:33, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>>     Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of
>>>     power-control module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as
>>>     'backup' flashlights.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
>> 
>> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
>> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
>> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
>> 
>   $19.95 for most drop-in 'upgrades'. About 200 lumens compared to 1000
>   in the new units. Not sure about how well you can focus the beam with
>   the LED either.
> 
>   Falls into the "MAY be worth it" range.

Did you bother to click on the link? $10.99 for two 250 lumen bulbs.

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#77063 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<iHqdnR5LGI1M3ZH0nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77061
On 11/6/25 00:09, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 22:12:41 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 11/5/25 11:33, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>      CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>>>      Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of
>>>>      power-control module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as
>>>>      'backup' flashlights.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
>>>
>>> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
>>> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
>>> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
>>>
>>    $19.95 for most drop-in 'upgrades'. About 200 lumens compared to 1000
>>    in the new units. Not sure about how well you can focus the beam with
>>    the LED either.
>>
>>    Falls into the "MAY be worth it" range.
> 
> Did you bother to click on the link? $10.99 for two 250 lumen bulbs.

   What's wrong with them - why do you need two ???

   USA site ... $19.95 for one.

   Anyway, a whole new unit gives 4 times the illumination
   and at least two 'modes'. MIGHT buy one upgrade kit but
   if I want another MagLite I'll just buy new.

   Still annoyed you can't buy 'C' or 'D' one-shot lith
   batteries .....

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#77071 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mn48aqFoqalU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77063
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 01:31:40 -0500, c186282 wrote:

> On 11/6/25 00:09, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 22:12:41 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/5/25 11:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>      CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it. Gotta
>>>>>      find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of power-control
>>>>>      module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as 'backup'
>>>>>      flashlights.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
>>>>
>>>> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
>>>> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
>>>> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
>>>>
>>>    $19.95 for most drop-in 'upgrades'. About 200 lumens compared to
>>>    1000 in the new units. Not sure about how well you can focus the
>>>    beam with the LED either.
>>>
>>>    Falls into the "MAY be worth it" range.
>> 
>> Did you bother to click on the link? $10.99 for two 250 lumen bulbs.
> 
>    What's wrong with them - why do you need two ???

I have two Maglites, a 3D and a 6D. Happy now? If I needed one I would 
have bought one.
 
>    USA site ... $19.95 for one.

I'm sure you can find a site selling them for whatever the market will 
bear.

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#77019 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mmtpkeFkjh8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77015
On 4 Nov 2025 04:55:09 GMT, Robert Riches wrote:

> Of course, there were other things one could do with a flashbulb.
> A friend of mine used them for pranking coworkers, his son, etc. I found
> some bulbs at a thrift store and gave them to him.  He grinned.    He
> would wire up a flashbulb inside his son's desktop computer or under a
> circuit board at work.  When the son powered on the computer or the
> coworkers powered on the board, the bright flash of light would cause
> the victim to think he had just destroyed the machine or board in
> question.

I think it was a Sylvania product but it was a low rent security system. 
You set up a trip wire on a window or door to trigger a flashbulb which 
set off an audible alarm.

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/3714647.html

If you follow the pdf link it has a sketch of the flashbulb mount and 
string going over to a window. Best '70s tech. The company I worked for 
subcontracted for Sylvania and they had some strange products. 

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#77016 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<TrWcnbvECKllNZT0nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#77012
On 11/3/25 23:26, Ian wrote:
> c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>>>
>>>> Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>>>
>>>> IMALENT MS32
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?
>>>>
> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
>>>
>>> You can shorten that to:
>>>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>
>>> or even
>>>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
>>>
>>> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long
>>> as I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this
>>> profile.
>>>
>>>
>>> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.
>>
>>
>>     VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
>>     then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)
>>
>>     The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.
>>
>>> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create
>>> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light
>>> source, to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it
>>> upwards, and use the reflection back.
>>
>>     How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)
>>
>>     Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
>>     where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
>>     your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
>>     flashbulbs ?
> 
> Weren't they aluminum?


   Been too long ... I think, at least earlier on, they
   used magnesium fluff and the bulb was full of oxygen.
   Aluminum fluff should work about as well though.

   Ah :

   https://filmphotographyproject.com/flash-bulbs-lowdown/

   Says they used aluminum, magnesium or zirconium. Not
   sure if there was a big diff in the color temperature
   or light duration between those.

   "For all but the smallest bulbs, the lighting power of
   a flash bulbs exceeds all handheld electronic flashes
   available today.  The large bulbs, such as the GE#22,
   are especially coveted by spelunkers who want to photograph
   the cave they are exploring, and since some caves are
   immense, electronic flashes are insufficient."

   Electronic flashes may also not be good for cameras
   with focal-plane shutters since the flash often does
   not last long enough for the shutter to traverse
   across the entire negative.

   You can still buy flashbulbs ... Amazon even sells some
   but https://flashbulbs.com has many more. As a lot of
   old cameras are still in use, well, there's still a
   market for the flashbulbs.

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