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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Started byAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
First post2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Last post2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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  Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
                                              Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
                                                                      LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
                                                                        Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
                                                                                  Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
                                                                                      Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
                                                                                Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
                                                                            Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
                                                                            TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
                                                                        Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
                                                                            Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
                                                                                      Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-24 15:04 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 22:48 -0500
                                                                                                                    Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:43 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 09:59 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-25 10:14 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 19:38 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-25 10:54 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-25 19:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 22:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 07:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                      City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: City fauna rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:31 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 22:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 05:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:40 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 21:02 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
                                                                  Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
                                                                        Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
                                                                                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                                                                                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                                          OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                                              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
                                                Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100

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#76664

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
Message-ID<68fcc773$0$417$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#76421
Le 20-10-2025, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> "Nom de plume," f'rexample, is cited by Wiktionary as being coined in
> English by analogy to "nom de guerre," which *is* a native French
> expression. English does use the literal rendering "pen name" more
> commonly, but the French version still sees use essentially because it
> "sounds cool" to deploy foreign words - the same reason you see
> gratuitous (and frequently nonsensical) English in Japanese media.

Yes, that's what I discovered not so long ago. The difference between
English and French in the way one uses the others words. As a lot of
new words comes from English, mostly in computer land but not only,
French are using them because it's easier to adopt them than to coin new
ones. That's nothing new to me. Another reason is some French people
don't speak English but want to make believe they know it to sound could
and are using English words.

But what is "new" to me, I mean not from yesterday, but from a few
years, is that it works in the other way around, too. Some French words
are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far more than
what I knew/guessed a few years ago.

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#76671

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
Message-ID<10dirb1$3ei8t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76664
On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Some French words
> are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far more than
> what I knew/guessed a few years ago.

  Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.


-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
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#76691

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
Message-ID<3%bLQ.1232900$xYr1.349004@fx14.iad>
In reply to#76671
On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> Some French words
>> are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far more than
>> what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>
>   Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.

A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus".
That one rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!

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#76697

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
Message-ID<mm5d5lFhd5nU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76691
On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:16:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> Some French words are used in English because they sound cool. And
>>> they are far more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>
>>   Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.
> 
> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus". That one
> rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!

You must love the US southwest with constructions like Rio Grande River.

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#76701

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Message-ID<mDhLQ.85661$P8zb.46508@fx04.iad>
In reply to#76697
On 2025-10-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:16:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some French words are used in English because they sound cool. And
>>>> they are far more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>>
>>>   Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.
>> 
>> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus". That one
>> rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!
>
> You must love the US southwest with constructions like Rio Grande River.

I'd like it better if it were the "Big Rio Grande River".

This message has been brought to by the
Department of Redundancy Department.

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#76709

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
Message-ID<wwvecqqcaw5.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#76701
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2025-10-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:16:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>> Some French words are used in English because they sound cool. And
>>>>> they are far more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.
>>> 
>>> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus". That one
>>> rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!
>>
>> You must love the US southwest with constructions like Rio Grande River.
>
> I'd like it better if it were the "Big Rio Grande River".
>
> This message has been brought to by the
> Department of Redundancy Department.

England and Scotland have something like ten River Avons. ‘Avon’ was the
Brythonic word for ‘river’, also surviving in modern Welsh ‘afon’
(pronounced with a hard ‘v’).

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#76710

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
Message-ID<10dkoko$3te7j$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76709
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 08:42:02 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> England and Scotland have something like ten River Avons.

The classic has got to be Torpenhow Hill ...

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#76711

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
Message-ID<wwv3476c6zu.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#76710
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> England and Scotland have something like ten River Avons.
> The classic has got to be Torpenhow Hill ...

Torpenhow is a real village in Cumbria. It may etymologize to ‘hill hill
ridge’, although that is not the only theory and while it does seem to
be on a gentle slope, ‘ridge’ quite obviously does not fit.

Torpenhow Hill seems to be be a myth, with the Wikipedia page at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpenhow_Hill covering most of the
relevant points.

There is a location marked in Google maps as ‘Torpenhow Hill’, but
Google’s description of it as a ‘mountain peak’ is obvious nonsense:
it’s a field. I think someone heard the Torpenhow Hill story and decided
to mark the nearest marginally elevated point near the village as
‘Torpenhow Hill’.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#76725

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
Message-ID<mm7asiFr1meU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76711
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 10:06:13 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> England and Scotland have something like ten River Avons.
>> The classic has got to be Torpenhow Hill ...
> 
> Torpenhow is a real village in Cumbria. It may etymologize to ‘hill hill
> ridge’, although that is not the only theory and while it does seem to
> be on a gentle slope, ‘ridge’ quite obviously does not fit.

Does 'howe' as in tumulus figure into it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumulus

'Barrow' appears to be the English term rather than the Norse 'haugr'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haugr

You've got to watch those haugrs; draugrs tend to hang around them.

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#76721

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
Message-ID<a172tlxq3a.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76709
On 2025-10-26 09:42, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>> On 2025-10-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:16:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>>> Some French words are used in English because they sound cool. And
>>>>>> they are far more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus". That one
>>>> rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!
>>>
>>> You must love the US southwest with constructions like Rio Grande River.
>>
>> I'd like it better if it were the "Big Rio Grande River".
>>
>> This message has been brought to by the
>> Department of Redundancy Department.
> 
> England and Scotland have something like ten River Avons. ‘Avon’ was the
> Brythonic word for ‘river’, also surviving in modern Welsh ‘afon’
> (pronounced with a hard ‘v’).

Spain has "Rio Guadalquivir" or "Rio Guadiana". Apparently, Guad means 
river in Arabic. I say apparently because once I asked an Iraqi and he 
said "no", but I was taught about that equivalence in school long ago, 
it is our tradition to teach our kids about that :-)

Chatgpt says the name was "al-wādi al-kabīr" (ٱلْوَادِي ٱلْكَبِير) (the 
big river or the big valley), where "al-wādi" shifted into "guad-" 
(similar pronunciation in Spanish).

I see now why that Iraqi long ago said "no" :-D

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76728

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
Message-ID<10dm3si$98dl$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76721
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 19:48:42 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Spain has "Rio Guadalquivir" or "Rio Guadiana". Apparently, Guad means
> river in Arabic. I say apparently because once I asked an Iraqi and he
> said "no" ...

There is no “g” (as you might use in “Guadalquivir”) in Arabic -- or maybe 
“q” is pronounced that way in some regions (Egypt?). Thus the place we all 
call “Gaza” is actually “Ghaza” (غزة).

> Chatgpt says the name was "al-wādi al-kabīr" (ٱلْوَادِي ٱلْكَبِير) (the
> big river or the big valley), where "al-wādi" shifted into "guad-"
> (similar pronunciation in Spanish).

My understanding is that “wādi” means “dry river bed”. As in those places 
that will suddenly turn into a river in a rainstorm. Places where it would 
be really unwise to set up camp. ;)

Google Translate gives “nahr” (نهر) as the translation for “river”.

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#76730

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
Message-ID<1bo2tlx7l5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76728
On 2025-10-26 22:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 19:48:42 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Spain has "Rio Guadalquivir" or "Rio Guadiana". Apparently, Guad means
>> river in Arabic. I say apparently because once I asked an Iraqi and he
>> said "no" ...
> 
> There is no “g” (as you might use in “Guadalquivir”) in Arabic -- or maybe
> “q” is pronounced that way in some regions (Egypt?). Thus the place we all
> call “Gaza” is actually “Ghaza” (غزة).
> 
>> Chatgpt says the name was "al-wādi al-kabīr" (ٱلْوَادِي ٱلْكَبِير) (the
>> big river or the big valley), where "al-wādi" shifted into "guad-"
>> (similar pronunciation in Spanish).
> 
> My understanding is that “wādi” means “dry river bed”. As in those places
> that will suddenly turn into a river in a rainstorm. Places where it would
> be really unwise to set up camp. ;)

The Guadalquivir doesn't fit that description, it is actually navigable 
up to Sevilla, relatively big ships.

> 
> Google Translate gives “nahr” (نهر) as the translation for “river”.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76703

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
Message-ID<rrWdnar7sojEN2D1nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#76697
On 10/25/25 21:51, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:16:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some French words are used in English because they sound cool. And
>>>> they are far more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>>
>>>    Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.
>>
>> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus". That one
>> rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!
> 
> You must love the US southwest with constructions like Rio Grande River.

   Hey, we put names together the best we could !
   The Spanish and "English" don't always use the
   same word order. :-)

   Things must be worse in the EU ... SO many
   languages/names to translate so the locals
   "get it"  :-)

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#76705

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
Message-ID<mm601tFk631U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76703
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 00:57:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Things must be worse in the EU ... SO many languages/names to
>    translate so the locals "get it"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch-paa-qn_Peak

Some of the road signs on the rez are also in Salish. Maybe. Not only can 
nobody pronounce them there is some disagreement on what they really mean. 
'shining peak' has been superceeded by 'big fucking mountain with no 
trees'. The typography on the signs is unique as in the 'Animal's Bridge' 
sign.

https://highplainsstewardship.com/an-introduction-to-the-wildlife-
crossing-structures-that-help-animals-move-over-and-under-highway-93-in-
the-flathead-reservation-montana-luca-guadagno/

fwiw, I've stopped and walked across the bridge. I didn't see any evidence 
of animals using it.

I think it's around Arlee but one of the signs has the translation 'Place 
where they gibs stuff'. Not much changes.

The Indians got screwed on that rez. They allocated a number of acres to 
each family and then said 'Look at all the land left over! We'll sell it 
to the whites!'  Somehow the best farmland was what was left over.

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#76714

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
Message-ID<10dkva3$3uqs3$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76703
On 26/10/2025 04:57, c186282 wrote:
> Things must be worse in the EU ... SO many
>    languages/names to translate so the locals
>    "get it"

No. The standard language is English. Even though the UK is no longer in 
the EU.


-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#76698

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
Message-ID<10djvbs$3nuva$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76691
On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 22:16:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus".
> That one rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!

That’s the hoi polloi for you. Really lacking in, I don’t know, je ne sais 
quoi.

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#76713

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
Message-ID<10dkv3a$3uqs3$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76691
On 25/10/2025 23:16, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-10-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 25/10/2025 13:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> Some French words
>>> are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far more than
>>> what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
>>
>>    Yes. 'Jus' sounds terribly exciting. 'Gravy' doesn't.
> 
> A popular construct on local menus is the phrase "with au jus".
> That one rubs my fur backwards.  Redundant prepositions!
> 
Like the rivers 'Avon'.

-- 
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that 
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is 
fully understood.

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#76690

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<10djhg8$3kg9d$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76664
On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land
> but not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt
> them than to coin new ones.

You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)

> That's nothing new to me. Another reason is some French people don't
> speak English but want to make believe they know it to sound could
> and are using English words.
>
> But what is "new" to me, I mean not from yesterday, but from a few
> years, is that it works in the other way around, too. Some French
> words are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far
> more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.

Heck, French has been a “cool” language for centuries, and not just
among English speakers. What you said above about English becoming
“cool” to French people ... now that is a big surprise, and seems a
more recent development.

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#76695

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
Message-ID<paydndWmsPCT6mD1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#76690
On 10/25/25 18:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land
>> but not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt
>> them than to coin new ones.
> 
> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)

   Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so
   during an "All French" wave of fanaticism they decided
   to replace the word "satellite" with what was essentially
   a full sentence-long description about made objects
   lofted into orbits  :-)

   "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
   but not FRENCH !

   Being a composite/pigeon language, 'English' is very good
   at inventing new, short, terms for things. Old terms, rules,
   history, almost irrelevant.


>> That's nothing new to me. Another reason is some French people don't
>> speak English but want to make believe they know it to sound could
>> and are using English words.
>>
>> But what is "new" to me, I mean not from yesterday, but from a few
>> years, is that it works in the other way around, too. Some French
>> words are used in English because they sound cool. And they are far
>> more than what I knew/guessed a few years ago.
> 
> Heck, French has been a “cool” language for centuries, and not just
> among English speakers. What you said above about English becoming
> “cool” to French people ... now that is a big surprise, and seems a
> more recent development.

   Some ideas STILL sound better in the French.
   The language has a good 'flow', even the simple
   can sound 'poetic'.

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#76696

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
Message-ID<mm5d2vFhd5nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76695
On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 21:19:03 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so during an "All
>    French" wave of fanaticism they decided to replace the word
>    "satellite" with what was essentially a full sentence-long
>    description about made objects lofted into orbits
> 
>    "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>    but not FRENCH !

https://www.etymonline.com/word/satellite

Several other sources also say it was a Middle French word meaning 
sycophant or follower.

German leaves off the 'e'. I have a Grundig Satellit 700 shortwave 
receiver. Grundig started using Satellit in '64, being all hip and space 
racey.

trivia: Trabant is a synonym more used for a moon orbiting a planet. 
Fitting for the much beloved Trabant car which was out of this world.

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