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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Started byAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
First post2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Last post2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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  Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
                                              Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
                                                                      LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
                                                                        Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
                                                                                  Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
                                                                                      Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
                                                                                Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
                                                                            Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
                                                                            TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
                                                                        Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
                                                                            Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
                                                                                      Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
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                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 22:48 -0500
                                                                                                                    Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:43 -0500
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                                                                                                                                      City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
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                                                                                                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
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                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
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                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
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                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
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                                                                    Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
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                                                                        Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
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                                                          Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
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                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                                          OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                                              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
                                                Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100

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#76970 — Re: Blade runner

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
SubjectRe: Blade runner
Message-ID<6srktlxvn8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76963
On 2025-11-02 20:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 15:50:05 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-11-02 02:22, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 14:22:21 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> That may be normal police procedure: do not touch anything, not even
>>>> the lights. The light switches have to photographed and analyzed for
>>>> fingerprints or adn. Using something else to wrap your finger and then
>>>> touch the switch may actually fudge or erase the fingerprint.
>>>
>>> True, but they're stomping through the place yelling 'Clear!' until
>>> they fall over a dead body or a crim tries to make them a dead body.
>>>
>>> As an aside, the old school police didn't really like the new, small,
>>> very bright LED flashlights. Maybe you couldn't see as well but if you
>>> slap someone with a 6 D cell Maglite they stay slapped.
>>
>> True. I have one of those somewhere, strong aluminum.
> 
> I put a LED bulb in mine. It's an improvement over the Xenon bulb but not
> as good as the current cheap LED flashlights. I think it's about 250
> lumens.

Those big torches with big batteries should power something with 3000 
lumens.

> 
> There is a more expensive replacement that costs a lot more than a simple
> bulb change and a lot more than a $20 1000 lumen flashlight.
> 

Oh.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76984 — Re: Blade runner

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Blade runner
Message-ID<mmqjdmF3kvrU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76970
On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 21:34:46 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Those big torches with big batteries should power something with 3000
> lumens.

https://hackaday.com/tag/cree/

The problem with retrofitting a Maglite is the Cree emitters need controllers and heatsinks. Those are the expensive replacements.

https://www.instructables.com/LED-Maglite-CREE-XM-L-Modification/

That's a DIY  Here's a commercial module.



https://lumencraft.com/home/158-3500-lumen-3x-xhp50-dropin-bulb-for-magltie-6-d-cell.html

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/maglite-led-or-cree-maglite-upgrade.398018/

Nice write up discussing the cheap drop-ins versus high output.

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#76997 — Re: Blade runner

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
SubjectRe: Blade runner
Message-ID<ndimtlxmkj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76984
On 2025-11-03 03:47, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 21:34:46 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Those big torches with big batteries should power something with 3000
>> lumens.
> 
> https://hackaday.com/tag/cree/
> 
> The problem with retrofitting a Maglite is the Cree emitters need controllers and heatsinks. Those are the expensive replacements.
> 
> https://www.instructables.com/LED-Maglite-CREE-XM-L-Modification/
> 
> That's a DIY  Here's a commercial module.
> 
> 
> 
> https://lumencraft.com/home/158-3500-lumen-3x-xhp50-dropin-bulb-for-magltie-6-d-cell.html
> 
> https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/maglite-led-or-cree-maglite-upgrade.398018/
> 
> Nice write up discussing the cheap drop-ins versus high output.


Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77007 — Re: Blade runner

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
SubjectRe: Blade runner
Message-ID<mmsg77Fe1c6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76997
On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> 
> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o

https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/

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#77008 — Re: Blade runner

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
SubjectRe: Blade runner
Message-ID<_82dnatebubDjpT0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77007
On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>>
>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
> 
> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/

   Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)

   IMALENT MS32

https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd

(note US links may not work in the UK/EU)

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#77009 — Flashlights

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
SubjectFlashlights
Message-ID<dgjntlxjtb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77008
On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>
>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
> 
>    Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
> 
>    IMALENT MS32
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-Rechargeable/ 
> dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC? 
> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd

You can shorten that to:

<https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>

or even

<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>

> 
> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)

Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long as 
I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this profile.


But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.

I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create 
glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light source, 
to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it upwards, and use 
the reflection back.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77011 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<_82dnaRebualrJT0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77009
On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>
>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>
>>    Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>
>>    IMALENT MS32
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights- 
>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC? 
>> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
> 
> You can shorten that to:
> 
> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights- 
> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
> 
> or even
> 
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
> 
>>
>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
> 
> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long as 
> I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this profile.
> 
> 
> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.


   VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
   then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)

   The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.

> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create 
> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light source, 
> to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it upwards, and use 
> the reflection back.

   How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)

   Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
   where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
   your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
   flashbulbs ?

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#77012 — Re: Flashlights

FromIan <gay@sfuu.ca>
Date2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<10ebv9k$1fsdl$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#77011
c186282 wrote:

> On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>>
>>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>>
>>> Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>>
>>> IMALENT MS32
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?
>>>
tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
>> 
>> You can shorten that to:
>> 
>> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>> 
>> or even
>> 
>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>> 
>>>
>>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
>> 
>> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long
>> as I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this
>> profile.
>> 
>> 
>> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.
> 
> 
>    VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
>    then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)
> 
>    The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.
> 
>> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create
>> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light
>> source, to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it
>> upwards, and use the reflection back.
> 
>    How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)
> 
>    Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
>    where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
>    your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
>    flashbulbs ?

Weren't they aluminum?

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#77015 — Re: Flashlights

FromRobert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Date2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<slrn10gj1pd.ro0.spamtrap42@one.localnet>
In reply to#77012
On 2025-11-04, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote:
> c186282 wrote:
>
>> On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>>>
>>>> Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>>>
>>>> IMALENT MS32
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?
>>>>
> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
>>> 
>>> You can shorten that to:
>>> 
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>> 
>>> or even
>>> 
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
>>> 
>>> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long
>>> as I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this
>>> profile.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.
>> 
>> 
>>    VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
>>    then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)
>> 
>>    The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.
>> 
>>> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create
>>> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light
>>> source, to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it
>>> upwards, and use the reflection back.
>> 
>>    How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)
>> 
>>    Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
>>    where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
>>    your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
>>    flashbulbs ?
>
> Weren't they aluminum?

If I understand the question correctly, flashLIGHTs (hand-held
devices that emit a continuous beam of light) were (mostly)
aluminum, while flashBULBs (very brief, small fraction of a
second, flash of light for photography) were magnesium.

Of course, there were other things one could do with a flashbulb.
A friend of mine used them for pranking coworkers, his son, etc.
I found some bulbs at a thrift store and gave them to him.  He
grinned.  :-)  He would wire up a flashbulb inside his son's
desktop computer or under a circuit board at work.  When the son
powered on the computer or the coworkers powered on the board,
the bright flash of light would cause the victim to think he had
just destroyed the machine or board in question.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#77018 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<TrWcnbrECKlVMZT0nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77015
On 11/3/25 23:55, Robert Riches wrote:
> On 2025-11-04, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote:
>> c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>>>>
>>>>> Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> IMALENT MS32
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?
>>>>>
>> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
>>>>
>>>> You can shorten that to:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>>
>>>> or even
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
>>>>
>>>> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long
>>>> as I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this
>>>> profile.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.
>>>
>>>
>>>     VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
>>>     then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)
>>>
>>>     The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.
>>>
>>>> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create
>>>> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light
>>>> source, to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it
>>>> upwards, and use the reflection back.
>>>
>>>     How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)
>>>
>>>     Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
>>>     where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
>>>     your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
>>>     flashbulbs ?
>>
>> Weren't they aluminum?
> 
> If I understand the question correctly, flashLIGHTs (hand-held
> devices that emit a continuous beam of light) were (mostly)
> aluminum, while flashBULBs (very brief, small fraction of a
> second, flash of light for photography) were magnesium.

   Found a reference ... see immediately previous post
   for this thread. Aluminum, magnesium and zirconium
   were all used - not sure which is 'better'.

> Of course, there were other things one could do with a flashbulb.
> A friend of mine used them for pranking coworkers, his son, etc.
> I found some bulbs at a thrift store and gave them to him.  He
> grinned.  :-)  He would wire up a flashbulb inside his son's
> desktop computer or under a circuit board at work.  When the son
> powered on the computer or the coworkers powered on the board,
> the bright flash of light would cause the victim to think he had
> just destroyed the machine or board in question.

   Funny !!!

   Older tech can have interesting uses.

   In any case, flashbulbs made a LOT of light.

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#77031 — Re: Flashlights

FromRobert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Date2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<slrn10gli0d.4dl.spamtrap42@one.localnet>
In reply to#77018
On 2025-11-04, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 11/3/25 23:55, Robert Riches wrote:
>> On 2025-11-04, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote:
>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMALENT MS32
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>>>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?
>>>>>>
>>> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
>>>>>
>>>>> You can shorten that to:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>>> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>>>
>>>>> or even
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long
>>>>> as I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this
>>>>> profile.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
>>>>     then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)
>>>>
>>>>     The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create
>>>>> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light
>>>>> source, to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it
>>>>> upwards, and use the reflection back.
>>>>
>>>>     How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)
>>>>
>>>>     Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
>>>>     where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
>>>>     your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
>>>>     flashbulbs ?
>>>
>>> Weren't they aluminum?
>> 
>> If I understand the question correctly, flashLIGHTs (hand-held
>> devices that emit a continuous beam of light) were (mostly)
>> aluminum, while flashBULBs (very brief, small fraction of a
>> second, flash of light for photography) were magnesium.
>
>    Found a reference ... see immediately previous post
>    for this thread. Aluminum, magnesium and zirconium
>    were all used - not sure which is 'better'.

Thanks for that info and the reference in the earlier post.  I
had understood all the Mag-Lites I had ever seen (including a
4-D) were aluminum.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#77032 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<Xu-cnYYZNNXedJf0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77031
On 11/4/25 22:44, Robert Riches wrote:
> On 2025-11-04, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 11/3/25 23:55, Robert Riches wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-04, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote:
>>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/3/25 16:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-11-03 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/3/25 15:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 13:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gosh. No idea that people were actually doing this. :-o
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.offgridweb.com/preparation/72000-lumen-diy-flashlight/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Found a 200,000 lumen flashlight on Amazon  :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMALENT MS32
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>>>>> Rechargeable/ dp/B0CRHRJWMC/ref=asc_df_B0CRHRJWMC?
>>>>>>>
>>>> tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608146994090&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=94237&hvtargid=pla-4584207611058171&psc=1&msclkid=845b880d8c6f10c0171ee1049eb7dafd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can shorten that to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/IMALENT-MS32-Flashlight-Flashlights-
>>>>>> Rechargeable/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRHRJWMC>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (note US links may not work in the UK/EU)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, they work. But it may say not available to your country. As long
>>>>>> as I don't change delivery address. I block Amazon cookies in this
>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that flashlight is amazing! And expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      VERY expensive ... but if you just HAVE to own The Brightest
>>>>>      then, well, money won't stand it the way, hmm ?  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>      The 100,000 luman mini version sells for half the price.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it is practical, though. That intense light will create
>>>>>> glare to the user, you have to distance yourself from the light
>>>>>> source, to another angle. In the videos, they have to point it
>>>>>> upwards, and use the reflection back.
>>>>>
>>>>>      How many lumens before you have a 'photonic weapon' ?  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>      Anyway, at minimum, this would be for 'open field' use
>>>>>      where glare would be less of an issue. Turn it on inside
>>>>>      your house and, remember those old magnesium/O2 camera
>>>>>      flashbulbs ?
>>>>
>>>> Weren't they aluminum?
>>>
>>> If I understand the question correctly, flashLIGHTs (hand-held
>>> devices that emit a continuous beam of light) were (mostly)
>>> aluminum, while flashBULBs (very brief, small fraction of a
>>> second, flash of light for photography) were magnesium.
>>
>>     Found a reference ... see immediately previous post
>>     for this thread. Aluminum, magnesium and zirconium
>>     were all used - not sure which is 'better'.
> 
> Thanks for that info and the reference in the earlier post.  I
> had understood all the Mag-Lites I had ever seen (including a
> 4-D) were aluminum.

   Ummm ... THIS subject was olde-tyme camera FLASHBULBS.

   The MagLite's - the head-busting kind - are still all
   aluminum alloy. The new ones are now brighter LEDs,
   about 1000 lumens. They DO still sell a few 'classic'
   models, about 100 lumen filament bulbs. Check their site.

   CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
   Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind
   of power-control module too. Just leave the old ones
   alone, as 'backup' flashlights. Somewhere I have a
   1500 lumen 'police' flash, but it's not as robust as
   the Mags. "Police", frankly you SHOULD be able to
   use it as a billy club too ... the 4/5/6D jobbies
   are perfect for that.

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#77038 — Re: Flashlights

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<p0srtlxo9m.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77032
On 2025-11-05 07:05, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/4/25 22:44, Robert Riches wrote:
>> On 2025-11-04, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> On 11/3/25 23:55, Robert Riches wrote:
>>>> On 2025-11-04, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote:
>>>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>>>

...

>> Thanks for that info and the reference in the earlier post.  I
>> had understood all the Mag-Lites I had ever seen (including a
>> 4-D) were aluminum.
> 
>    Ummm ... THIS subject was olde-tyme camera FLASHBULBS.
> 
>    The MagLite's - the head-busting kind - are still all
>    aluminum alloy. The new ones are now brighter LEDs,
>    about 1000 lumens. They DO still sell a few 'classic'
>    models, about 100 lumen filament bulbs. Check their site.
> 
>    CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>    Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind
>    of power-control module too. Just leave the old ones
>    alone, as 'backup' flashlights. Somewhere I have a
>    1500 lumen 'police' flash, but it's not as robust as
>    the Mags. "Police", frankly you SHOULD be able to
>    use it as a billy club too ... the 4/5/6D jobbies
>    are perfect for that.


They sell conversion kits. Basically replace the bulb part, done.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77050 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<SeycnTgagu6KjJH0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77038
On 11/5/25 07:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-11-05 07:05, c186282 wrote:
>> On 11/4/25 22:44, Robert Riches wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-04, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/3/25 23:55, Robert Riches wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-11-04, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>
> 
> ...
> 
>>> Thanks for that info and the reference in the earlier post.  I
>>> had understood all the Mag-Lites I had ever seen (including a
>>> 4-D) were aluminum.
>>
>>    Ummm ... THIS subject was olde-tyme camera FLASHBULBS.
>>
>>    The MagLite's - the head-busting kind - are still all
>>    aluminum alloy. The new ones are now brighter LEDs,
>>    about 1000 lumens. They DO still sell a few 'classic'
>>    models, about 100 lumen filament bulbs. Check their site.
>>
>>    CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>    Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind
>>    of power-control module too. Just leave the old ones
>>    alone, as 'backup' flashlights. Somewhere I have a
>>    1500 lumen 'police' flash, but it's not as robust as
>>    the Mags. "Police", frankly you SHOULD be able to
>>    use it as a billy club too ... the 4/5/6D jobbies
>>    are perfect for that.
> 
> 
> They sell conversion kits. Basically replace the bulb part, done.

   How many lumens ... and for HOW MUCH ?

   If the price is similar to an entire new flash
   then it's not worth it.

   Most of the drop-in upgrades I see on Amazon are
   about $19.95 and promise somewhere around 200
   lumens ... but many can't deal with a 3+ cell
   light and there are restrictions depending on
   the exact socket type in the old flash.

   The ML300L 4D factory flash is $59.95 and offers
   1000 lumens and two modes.

   One of the drop-in units may, or may not, be
   "worth it" depending on perspective.

   Also not sure how the beam focus setup works
   with the LEDs as compared to the filament bulbs.
   A huge wide beam isn't always what you need.

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#77040 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mn1cjaF9s1jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77032
On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>    Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of power-control
>    module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as 'backup' flashlights.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP

It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter 
light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a 
couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.

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#77042 — Re: Flashlights

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<jllstlxsbp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77040
On 2025-11-05 17:33, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>     Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of power-control
>>     module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as 'backup' flashlights.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
> 
> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
> 

hardly an improvement. That lamp is heavy; I can carry in my pocket a 
little torch that gives more than that light output. I have no reason to 
carry around the old aluminum torch, with 4 big batteries, unless for 
self defence.


For instance, this replacement bulb

<https://lumencraft.com/led-upgrades-for-maglite/148-8212-370-lumen-firefly-2-6-cell-led-conversion-for-maglite-cree-xhp35hi.html#/96-hardened_scratch_resistant_glass_lens-no>

Huh, no, only up to 325 Lumen (with 6 cell torch).

This one: 
<https://lumencraft.com/led-upgrades-for-maglite/107-8740-conversion-kit-for-maglite.html#/95-hardened_scratch_resistant_glass_lens-yes_599/99-batteries-no/101-charger-no> 
produces 4200Lm on a 5-6 cell torch.

The thing is, I have lost track of that torch. I thought it was useless, 
so it must be at the bottom of some old box. I can not play with it.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77055 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<SeycnTUagu7uiJH0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77042
On 11/5/25 14:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-11-05 17:33, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>>     Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of power- 
>>> control
>>>     module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as 'backup' flashlights.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
>>
>> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
>> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
>> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
>>
> 
> hardly an improvement. That lamp is heavy; I can carry in my pocket a 
> little torch that gives more than that light output. I have no reason to 
> carry around the old aluminum torch, with 4 big batteries, unless for 
> self defence.
> 
> 
> For instance, this replacement bulb
> 
> <https://lumencraft.com/led-upgrades-for-maglite/148-8212-370-lumen- 
> firefly-2-6-cell-led-conversion-for-maglite-cree-xhp35hi.html#/96- 
> hardened_scratch_resistant_glass_lens-no>
> 
> Huh, no, only up to 325 Lumen (with 6 cell torch).
> 
> This one: <https://lumencraft.com/led-upgrades-for-maglite/107-8740- 
> conversion-kit-for-maglite.html#/95- 
> hardened_scratch_resistant_glass_lens-yes_599/99-batteries-no/101- 
> charger-no> produces 4200Lm on a 5-6 cell torch.
> 
> The thing is, I have lost track of that torch. I thought it was useless, 
> so it must be at the bottom of some old box. I can not play with it.

   I have several of the "Mini-Mags" ... and they're
   damned good. The only reason you'd need much more
   would be for outdoors/camping purposes (and POLICE
   purposes of course).

   The 4/5/6D lights are excellent billy clubs too :-)

   Always use the one-shot lithiums in my lights ...
   unlike alkalines they don't go bad and the little
   extra power is another perk. Nobody in the USA
   seems to make 'C' or 'D' one-shot lithiums alas,
   so NiMH would be the possible backup but they DO
   go flat after awhile. However these days most of
   the smaller flashes use three or six 'AAA', on
   rare occasion 'AA' batteries.

   Oddly, my most-used flash is a $4.95 jobbie with
   a bunch of discrete LEDs instead of a module. It's
   bright and throws a broad enough beam to be very
   useful for finding things and working on things -
   not even TOO bad outdoors up to maybe 12 feet.

   So, you don't always need that $750 200,000 lumen
   jobbie to get good stuff done  :-)

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#77065 — Re: Flashlights

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<dgbutlx72g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77055
On 2025-11-06 04:26, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/5/25 14:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-11-05 17:33, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 01:05:58 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>     CONVERTING an old one to LED ... probably NOT worth it.
>>>>     Gotta find/mount/cool the LED and you need some kind of power- 
>>>> control
>>>>     module too. Just leave the old ones alone, as 'backup' flashlights.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB44RLP
>>>
>>> It's not a huge improvement over the Krypton bulbs but it is a whiter
>>> light. It's a drop in replacement and probably will last longer for a
>>> couple of bucks more than the Krypton bulbs.
>>>
>>
>> hardly an improvement. That lamp is heavy; I can carry in my pocket a 
>> little torch that gives more than that light output. I have no reason 
>> to carry around the old aluminum torch, with 4 big batteries, unless 
>> for self defence.
>>
>>
>> For instance, this replacement bulb
>>
>> <https://lumencraft.com/led-upgrades-for-maglite/148-8212-370-lumen- 
>> firefly-2-6-cell-led-conversion-for-maglite-cree-xhp35hi.html#/96- 
>> hardened_scratch_resistant_glass_lens-no>
>>
>> Huh, no, only up to 325 Lumen (with 6 cell torch).
>>
>> This one: <https://lumencraft.com/led-upgrades-for-maglite/107-8740- 
>> conversion-kit-for-maglite.html#/95- 
>> hardened_scratch_resistant_glass_lens-yes_599/99-batteries-no/101- 
>> charger-no> produces 4200Lm on a 5-6 cell torch.
>>
>> The thing is, I have lost track of that torch. I thought it was 
>> useless, so it must be at the bottom of some old box. I can not play 
>> with it.
> 
>    I have several of the "Mini-Mags" ... and they're
>    damned good. The only reason you'd need much more
>    would be for outdoors/camping purposes (and POLICE
>    purposes of course).
> 
>    The 4/5/6D lights are excellent billy clubs too :-)
> 
>    Always use the one-shot lithiums in my lights ...
>    unlike alkalines they don't go bad and the little
>    extra power is another perk. Nobody in the USA
>    seems to make 'C' or 'D' one-shot lithiums alas,
>    so NiMH would be the possible backup but they DO
>    go flat after awhile. However these days most of
>    the smaller flashes use three or six 'AAA', on
>    rare occasion 'AA' batteries.

I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.

> 
>    Oddly, my most-used flash is a $4.95 jobbie with
>    a bunch of discrete LEDs instead of a module. It's
>    bright and throws a broad enough beam to be very
>    useful for finding things and working on things -
>    not even TOO bad outdoors up to maybe 12 feet.
> 
>    So, you don't always need that $750 200,000 lumen
>    jobbie to get good stuff done  :-)

On my shoulder bag I keep a small torch with just a single AA cell. Good 
enough for any emergencies like searching for dropped keys.

On June 2021 I bought this one <https://www.amazon.es/dp/B08MC1K89D> 
which reaches 2000Lm. Then I misplaced it, so I bought 
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0DWSLVJG8> this July, which reaches 3000 Lm 
for short instants. Then this one broke down, so I bought another one at 
a physical shop, a Solognac BGS900M which reaches "only" 900Lm.

And then I find the one I lost! Unfortunately, I have lost the battery 
holder/charger (thinking the torch was lost, I stored the spare battery 
and charger "securely". Don't remember where.). I can use it with 3 AAA 
cells, though.

I complain at Amazon about the one that failed. The maker asks for a 
video showing the problem, and they are sending a replacement that 
should arrive tomorrow.

So I end with three small but powerful torches.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77072 — Re: Flashlights

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<mn48h6FoqalU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77065
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.

I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on hand. 
I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is C. I 
had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap around an AA 
to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they don't last as long 
but it's convenient.

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#77077 — Re: Flashlights

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
SubjectRe: Flashlights
Message-ID<gRydnZJtR77jvJD0nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77072
On 11/6/25 13:42, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 11:56:45 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I don't like AAA lamps, the batteries are more expensive.
> 
> I've got enough AAA devices other than lamps that I keep a supply on hand.
> I also have AA, D, 9V, CR2032, and other common sizes. The odd one is C. I
> had one flashlight that used C. I did find sleeves that snap around an AA
> to make it the same dimension as a C. Obviously they don't last as long
> but it's convenient.

   Actually, 'C' flashlights are probably the
   most handy size - but you don't see many of
   them, indeed not many 'C' devices at all.
   Not sure why. Used to see a lot more.

   Once had a 'portable' reel-2-reel tape recorder
   (almost the size of a fire brick) and it used
   four 'C' cells. Worked well.

   MagLite DOES make some of the LED units in 'C'
   size however.

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