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GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

Started byChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
First post2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
Last post2025-01-03 11:32 +0100
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  GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 17:13 +0000
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 10:57 -0800
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 19:27 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 11:59 -0800
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-26 20:22 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:37 -0800
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 14:41 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-27 10:42 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 16:23 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-28 07:25 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 15:12 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 14:51 -0600
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:14 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 17:57 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:36 -0500
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-29 16:00 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:06 -0500
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:28 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 09:22 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:40 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:01 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 18:18 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:04 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:08 +0100
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:29 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:32 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:55 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:53 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:54 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:04 -0600
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 09:39 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:24 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:56 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:21 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:16 +0100
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:39 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 13:50 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-27 12:22 +0100
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:56 -0500
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 08:00 -0800
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:52 -0500
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-27 09:25 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 10:08 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-27 06:34 -0600
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 00:10 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:22 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-28 11:04 -0600
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 17:21 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:31 -0500
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 12:47 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:07 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2024-12-28 19:13 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 23:50 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 23:47 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 09:37 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:44 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:34 -0500
                              Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 22:02 +0000
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:56 -0500
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:00 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:54 +0100
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:16 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-31 02:49 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 13:23 +0100
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:47 -0500
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:41 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:47 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:22 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lem Novantotto <Lem@none.invalid> - 2024-12-28 20:49 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 00:30 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:59 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:54 +0000
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 21:53 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:06 -0500
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-29 08:15 +1000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:29 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:31 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:53 +0100
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:15 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-31 07:31 +1000
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 12:40 +0100
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:55 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 01:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:53 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:46 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 12:49 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:09 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:59 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:16 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 02:19 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:30 +0100
                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 20:04 +0000
                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-03 01:50 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 03:13 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-03 12:32 +0100
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:48 +0000
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 01:13 +0100
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 06:44 +0000
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 06:58 -0500
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 12:07 +0000
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 08:32 -0500
                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:02 +0000
                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-03 11:31 -0500
                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 16:43 +0000
                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 13:37 -0500
                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 01:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 12:13 +0100
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 06:16 -0500
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-04 10:58 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:01 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-04 15:48 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:43 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:06 +0100
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:52 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:38 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 09:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:54 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:21 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:17 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 13:43 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 21:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:11 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:01 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:36 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:22 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:57 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 08:49 -0500
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:06 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 19:09 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-06 15:54 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 16:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 17:37 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:57 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 08:43 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 09:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 11:26 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 11:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:14 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:44 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:00 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:35 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:46 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:12 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 21:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:16 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:50 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-08 09:45 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-07 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 04:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:25 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:21 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:37 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:25 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-01-08 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:05 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:47 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:51 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-07 20:52 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:05 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-08 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 20:18 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 09:58 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 15:17 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:50 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 10:20 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:43 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 18:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 06:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-11 07:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 10:55 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:27 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 06:56 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 18:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:20 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 08:48 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 16:14 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:19 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 17:48 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 06:55 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:16 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 16:20 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-11 07:08 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 07:21 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 08:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:45 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 07:43 -0600
                                                                                                                              TL;DR: cry harder! (was: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: TL;DR: idiot and liar claims "victory"! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 22:50 -0600
                                                                                                    Climate change mitigations Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:37 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:31 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:06 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:37 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 13:05 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 23:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:16 +0000
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 13:25 -0500
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:51 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:02 -0500
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                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:55 -0500
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                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-15 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-15 06:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:49 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:53 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 18:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:19 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:46 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 22:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Tribes and Ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-16 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Tribes and Ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-16 20:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:41 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-18 19:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-19 18:11 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-16 08:08 -0500
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-13 05:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                          Biker Gangs Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:43 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 01:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:13 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 14:00 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:25 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-09 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:34 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:51 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 11:31 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 12:12 -0500
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 12:04 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:16 +0000
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                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 02:36 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 13:21 +0000
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:41 -0600
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:23 -0600
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:07 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 20:46 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:33 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-10 23:14 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 20:03 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Business cultures Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:11 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:27 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:46 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-09 12:28 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:18 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:50 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:55 -0600
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 20:16 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:36 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 07:54 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 03:18 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 22:32 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:21 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 21:54 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 09:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-11 07:44 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:53 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 08:17 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 13:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-13 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:09 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 23:41 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:48 -0500
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-19 20:10 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-13 08:03 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:35 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 03:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-16 01:23 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-13 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 21:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:31 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:06 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 14:23 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:57 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:45 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                            Traveling and Travel Planning Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Traveling and Travel Planning rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:40 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:55 +0000
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                                                                                                          Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 19:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:35 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 07:48 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 20:19 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:53 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:55 -0800
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:42 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:30 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:54 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:00 -0600
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:42 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:47 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:53 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 22:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:40 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:49 +0000
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 23:03 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:03 -0600
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:53 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 14:23 -0700
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 19:11 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 18:31 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:55 -0800
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:23 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 06:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 02:04 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:07 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 12:25 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:35 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:08 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:22 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:44 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:51 +0000
                                                                                  (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-08 18:57 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:23 -0500
                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 11:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:49 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:21 -0600
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 22:43 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:50 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 08:35 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:02 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:43 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:49 -0500
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:34 +0000
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                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:25 +0000
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                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:52 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:22 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 09:02 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:32 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 15:00 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 20:19 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 10:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:16 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:30 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:50 -0500
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:46 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:27 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:51 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:26 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:02 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:48 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 00:48 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:15 -0500
                                                                                              The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 21:59 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:18 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 15:38 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:27 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 03:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:09 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 01:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:12 -0500
                                                                                              Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-10 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-11 01:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-11 05:23 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:48 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 07:02 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:00 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:51 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:05 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:49 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-12 14:06 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:42 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:51 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-14 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 04:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:18 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:55 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 12:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:00 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-14 23:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:07 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 23:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 20:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 14:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 18:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:06 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:51 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:23 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:40 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:31 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:16 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:48 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:32 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-12 21:47 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 02:41 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-13 03:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:47 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:56 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:53 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:13 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 04:32 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:00 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:46 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:39 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:15 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-11 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                      The Joys of Motorola Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The Joys of Motorola "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:38 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:08 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 07:05 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:21 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:23 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-14 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 03:59 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:29 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 18:01 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:51 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:46 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:31 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:03 +0100
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                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 17:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:59 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-05 23:47 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-06 02:23 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:50 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 12:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:41 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:53 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:07 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:49 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:49 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 04:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-08 00:29 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:50 +0100
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:06 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:49 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:46 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 23:14 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:24 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:45 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:27 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:59 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:03 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 02:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:23 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 07:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:32 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 22:29 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 00:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-07 18:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:22 +0000
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#64340 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-01-14 12:28 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<eMshP.1217096$bYV2.49762@fx17.iad>
In reply to#64331
On 2025-01-14, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

>    I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>    boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>    an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>    from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>    into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>    month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>    does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>    the thing.

:-)

I was once in a store where the muzak equivalenet was
provided by an FM radio mounted up on a pillar, tuned
to the local "soft rock" station.  (Soft rock: the muzak
of the '90s.)  I guess a lot of the employees were muzak
haters, since the radio had a handmade sign taped to it:
"Do NOT change the station!"

Pet peeve: such radios (whether playing muzak or not)
with a single speaker at one end of the store hooked up
to the left channel, and another single speaker at the
other end of the store hooked up to the right channel.
This guarantees that no matter where you are,
you're only going to hear half the music.

>    There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>    was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>    PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>
>    Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>    you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>    and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>    on other tasks.

Ugh.  I can't imagine being exposed to that stuff day in and
day out.  It's toxic, and will turn your brain into guacamole.
But aside from that, you have to feel sorry for the musicians
who actually record the stuff.  Could you imagine using your
talents playing music that nobody will ever really _listen_ to?
As for semi-audible music, it drives me nuts - an unreasonably
large portion of my brain devotes itself to trying to figure out
what's playing, leaving me mentally exhausted and pissed off.

In the late '90s / early noughties, a cow orker was into the
local "soft rock" station (Vancouver's first FM station, which
had been playing muzak since about 1958, had gone over to the
'90s counterpart, see above).  I brought my own radio and a set
of headphones to work, and treated them as life-support equipment.
When anyone asked, I explained that I didn't want to spend my time
cleaning up my radio after Mariah Carey had bled all over it.

Back around 1980 I came across the real thing, in a storefront with
a sign saying "Music by Muzak".  At any time of the day or night you
could look through the window and see huge tape reels slowly turning...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  Elevator music
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  brings me down.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |

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#64355 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-14 22:00 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<e7f5dc99-595c-93b3-ef2c-648e5e1edc92@example.net>
In reply to#64331

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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/13/25 4:32 AM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/12/25 1:42 PM, D wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, root wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, but then I'd have to find or make an enclosure that fits the board
>>>>>> SET.
>>>>> 
>>>>> An enclosure is purely cosmetic. I attached my Pi5 to a piece of
>>>>> cardboard with zip-ties and hung it down the back of my desk.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My other TV computer, a radxa zero, dangles off the hdmi cable, and I've 
>>>> attached it to the back of the OLED tv with some tape. It's lived happily 
>>>> there for a year or so at the moment.
>>> 
>>>  Try Velcro or double-sided tape ... works great for
>>>  sticking a Pi to whatever  :-)
>> 
>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try! My 
>> estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of sticks out 
>> from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down the velcro or 
>> double sided tape route. ;)
>
>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>  the thing.
>
>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>
>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>  on other tasks.
>

It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet 
earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while 
your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)

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#64369 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-14 23:15 -0500
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<B66cnZ5CRtPOqxr6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#64355
On 1/14/25 4:00 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>> On 1/13/25 4:32 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/12/25 1:42 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, root wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but then I'd have to find or make an enclosure that fits the 
>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>> SET.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An enclosure is purely cosmetic. I attached my Pi5 to a piece of
>>>>>> cardboard with zip-ties and hung it down the back of my desk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My other TV computer, a radxa zero, dangles off the hdmi cable, and 
>>>>> I've attached it to the back of the OLED tv with some tape. It's 
>>>>> lived happily there for a year or so at the moment.
>>>>
>>>>  Try Velcro or double-sided tape ... works great for
>>>>  sticking a Pi to whatever  :-)
>>>
>>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try! 
>>> My estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of 
>>> sticks out from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down 
>>> the velcro or double sided tape route. ;)
>>
>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>  the thing.
>>
>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>
>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>  on other tasks.
>>
> 
> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on 
> planet earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth 
> while your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)


   Heh, heh ... it'd make a fun sci-fi short story  :-)

   But what would eventually-passing aliens THINK of
   us upon hearing an endless muzak track ???

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#64385 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-15 10:07 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<1ddcdf92-6e00-d548-a527-acf9b9de73e9@example.net>
In reply to#64369

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/14/25 4:00 PM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/13/25 4:32 AM, D wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/12/25 1:42 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, root wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, but then I'd have to find or make an enclosure that fits the 
>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>> SET.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> An enclosure is purely cosmetic. I attached my Pi5 to a piece of
>>>>>>> cardboard with zip-ties and hung it down the back of my desk.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My other TV computer, a radxa zero, dangles off the hdmi cable, and 
>>>>>> I've attached it to the back of the OLED tv with some tape. It's lived 
>>>>>> happily there for a year or so at the moment.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Try Velcro or double-sided tape ... works great for
>>>>>  sticking a Pi to whatever  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try! My 
>>>> estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of sticks 
>>>> out from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down the velcro 
>>>> or double sided tape route. ;)
>>> 
>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>  the thing.
>>> 
>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>> 
>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>  on other tasks.
>>> 
>> 
>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet 
>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while your 
>> little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>
>
>  Heh, heh ... it'd make a fun sci-fi short story  :-)
>
>  But what would eventually-passing aliens THINK of
>  us upon hearing an endless muzak track ???
>

I think you just sovled Fermis paradox. They probably put up warning signs 
around this corners of the universe. ;)

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#64374 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-01-15 06:16 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<hpIhP.100391$vfee.61101@fx45.iad>
In reply to#64355
On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>  the thing.
>>
>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>
>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>  on other tasks.
>
> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet 
> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while 
> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)

That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
by Mordecai Roshwald.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#64375 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-01-15 06:18 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<xqIhP.702304$Uup4.84878@fx10.iad>
In reply to#64374
On 2025-01-15, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
> by Mordecai Roshwald.

Post-apocalyptic.  Damned typos.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#64389 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-15 10:13 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<6df1f0fc-b3e2-def0-f24b-d73c1f4654c9@example.net>
In reply to#64374

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>  the thing.
>>>
>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>>
>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>  on other tasks.
>>
>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
>> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>
> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
> by Mordecai Roshwald.

Sigh... makes one despair of ever writing an original science fiction 
novel! =(

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#64419 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-16 00:28 -0500
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<7mydndIrMYhsBRX6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#64389
On 1/15/25 4:13 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>>  the thing.
>>>>
>>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>>>
>>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>>  on other tasks.
>>>
>>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on 
>>> planet
>>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
>>> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>>
>> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
>> by Mordecai Roshwald.
> 
> Sigh... makes one despair of ever writing an original science fiction 
> novel! =(


   Hard to do now ... most everything will derive from
   many other existing sources/premises even if you try
   to avoid it. Kinda like rock/pop now ... last even
   remotely 'different' sound was 'grunge' - and that
   was 'remotely'.

   Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
   their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
   their skills with their instruments was initially SO
   poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands  :-)

   Something really new - beyond 'space' and 'multiverses',
   'galactic empires', dubious 'time travel' and 'AI' - will
   have to be on the horizon before sci-fi can move up a notch.
   All that stuff is old and creaky and over-exploited.

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#64437 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-01-16 11:27 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<w26iP.425991$2xE6.132754@fx18.iad>
In reply to#64419
On 2025-01-16, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

>    Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
>    their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
>    their skills with their instruments was initially SO
>    poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands  :-)

I heard that Queen's distinctive guitar sound came from
the fact that the only guitar and amp that Brian May
could originally afford was a cheap piece of crap.

>    Something really new - beyond 'space' and 'multiverses',
>    'galactic empires', dubious 'time travel' and 'AI' - will
>    have to be on the horizon before sci-fi can move up a notch.
>    All that stuff is old and creaky and over-exploited.

Cory Doctorow has been writing some frighteningly prophetic
stories.  Some, like _Radicalized_, are already coming true.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#64446 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-16 14:39 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<vmb5m4$3hp9n$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64437
On 16/01/2025 11:27, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-01-16, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
> 
>>     Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
>>     their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
>>     their skills with their instruments was initially SO
>>     poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands  :-)
> 
> I heard that Queen's distinctive guitar sound came from
> the fact that the only guitar and amp that Brian May
> could originally afford was a cheap piece of crap.

No. He (and his dad)  built his  own guitar, but I think the pickups 
were P90s. The amp was always a (number of)  Vox AC30(s), well known for 
a unique sound due to stuff you wouldn't be interested in

-- 
  “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, 
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, 
“We did this ourselves.”

― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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#64491 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-17 01:01 -0500
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<CaadnYrkutW9bxT6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#64446
On 1/16/25 9:39 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 16/01/2025 11:27, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-01-16, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>
>>>     Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
>>>     their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
>>>     their skills with their instruments was initially SO
>>>     poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands  :-)
>>
>> I heard that Queen's distinctive guitar sound came from
>> the fact that the only guitar and amp that Brian May
>> could originally afford was a cheap piece of crap.
> 
> No. He (and his dad)  built his  own guitar, but I think the pickups 
> were P90s. The amp was always a (number of)  Vox AC30(s), well known for 
> a unique sound due to stuff you wouldn't be interested in

   Hey, we're tekkies here - we're interested in lots
   of stuff  :-)

   From May's sound, it's clear the amp has a somewhat
   exaggerated higher-end response with some interesting
   harmonics. A lot of the older transistor amps had
   a kinda 'hard' sound too and kinda heavier on the
   odd harmonics. Dunno if that was inherent, or
   by-design - intentionally emulating the AC30 sound.

   The Pink Floyd story IS interesting though. They
   were kinda good MUSICIANS, but kinda CRAP with
   their chosen instruments. Created something very
   different from the usual mix ..... I wonder if
   an 'AI' would have done the same, or striven
   for technical accuracy above all else ?

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#64522 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-17 11:10 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<vmddrr$8tl$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64491
On 17/01/2025 06:01, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>> No. He (and his dad)  built his  own guitar, but I think the pickups 
>> were P90s. The amp was always a (number of)  Vox AC30(s), well known 
>> for a unique sound due to stuff you wouldn't be interested in
> 
>    Hey, we're tekkies here - we're interested in lots
>    of stuff  🙂
> 
>    From May's sound, it's clear the amp has a somewhat
>    exaggerated higher-end response with some interesting
>    harmonics. A lot of the older transistor amps had
>    a kinda 'hard' sound too and kinda heavier on the
>    odd harmonics. Dunno if that was inherent, or
>    by-design - intentionally emulating the AC30 sound.

The AC30 is a development of the original Mullard application note to 
use four EL84s - a small pentode - as a 25W power amplifier. Subesquent 
units used a pair of EL34s.

Being British, when it needed more gain, instead of adding an extra 
tube, they simply *removed the negative feedback* from the power amplifier.
You don't care much about distortion in a guitar amplifier.

Of course this had another effect, instead of just increasing the gain 
it increased the output impedance so much (~100ohm) that the 
loudspeakers were practically current driven, rather than voltage driven.

This had two effects. The first one was a result of the induction of the 
loudspeaker voice coil. Normally with a constant volatage, you get 
constant-ish output with frequency. But with a high impedance feed the 
loudspeakers got effectively a 6dB per octave treble boost all the way 
from somewhere around 1kHz. To tame this they added a simple 'tone 
control' that rolled off the treble only.

The other effect was that the loudspeaker cone was no longer tightly 
controlled by the amplifier - it was free to flap. And it so happens 
that the two 12" loudspeakers and the open backed cabinet had both a 
nice woodenish  cardboardy sort of sound and a massive bass resonance 
peak at around 100Hz, which is very close to and lies between bottom E 
and bottom A on the guitar.

All this made for a classic 'boom and chink' sound perfect  for the beat 
groups of the era, and all with as few valves (tubes) as they could get 
away with.

British amps sounded good because they were in fact BAD. Whilst a Fender 
is a reasonable copy of a hi fi amplifier of the period, British designs 
were over driven done on the cheap and had in many cases horrible 
distortion.

The Marshall being the prime example of 'all of the above'.  The classic 
'attack' is caused by the amplifier having plenty of HT voltage - until 
you want to sustain power. Then the mains transformers sighs and gives up.

So a 'power chord' has a sharp attack and then sustains at lower volume...


-- 
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house 
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

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#64551 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-17 23:30 -0500
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<bAqdnWZvTeTIsxb6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#64522
On 1/17/25 6:10 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 17/01/2025 06:01, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>> No. He (and his dad)  built his  own guitar, but I think the pickups 
>>> were P90s. The amp was always a (number of)  Vox AC30(s), well known 
>>> for a unique sound due to stuff you wouldn't be interested in
>>
>>    Hey, we're tekkies here - we're interested in lots
>>    of stuff  🙂
>>
>>    From May's sound, it's clear the amp has a somewhat
>>    exaggerated higher-end response with some interesting
>>    harmonics. A lot of the older transistor amps had
>>    a kinda 'hard' sound too and kinda heavier on the
>>    odd harmonics. Dunno if that was inherent, or
>>    by-design - intentionally emulating the AC30 sound.
> 
> The AC30 is a development of the original Mullard application note to 
> use four EL84s - a small pentode - as a 25W power amplifier. Subesquent 
> units used a pair of EL34s.
> 
> Being British, when it needed more gain, instead of adding an extra 
> tube, they simply *removed the negative feedback* from the power amplifier.
> You don't care much about distortion in a guitar amplifier.
> 
> Of course this had another effect, instead of just increasing the gain 
> it increased the output impedance so much (~100ohm) that the 
> loudspeakers were practically current driven, rather than voltage driven.
> 
> This had two effects. The first one was a result of the induction of the 
> loudspeaker voice coil. Normally with a constant volatage, you get 
> constant-ish output with frequency. But with a high impedance feed the 
> loudspeakers got effectively a 6dB per octave treble boost all the way 
> from somewhere around 1kHz. To tame this they added a simple 'tone 
> control' that rolled off the treble only.
> 
> The other effect was that the loudspeaker cone was no longer tightly 
> controlled by the amplifier - it was free to flap. And it so happens 
> that the two 12" loudspeakers and the open backed cabinet had both a 
> nice woodenish  cardboardy sort of sound and a massive bass resonance 
> peak at around 100Hz, which is very close to and lies between bottom E 
> and bottom A on the guitar.
> 
> All this made for a classic 'boom and chink' sound perfect  for the beat 
> groups of the era, and all with as few valves (tubes) as they could get 
> away with.
> 
> British amps sounded good because they were in fact BAD. Whilst a Fender 
> is a reasonable copy of a hi fi amplifier of the period, British designs 
> were over driven done on the cheap and had in many cases horrible 
> distortion.

   Well, for 'rock', a fair bit of distortion is desired
   most of the time. However the intro to "Stairway" would
   not have sounded so good with too much distortion added.
   Sometimes you want something closer to Spanish guitar.

   That's one of the coolest things about electric guitar,
   they can sound anything from wood instruments up to the
   coming of the Viking gods just by turning a knob or two.

> The Marshall being the prime example of 'all of the above'.  The classic 
> 'attack' is caused by the amplifier having plenty of HT voltage - until 
> you want to sustain power. Then the mains transformers sighs and gives up.
> 
> So a 'power chord' has a sharp attack and then sustains at lower volume...

   Before the triode, there were MECHANICAL audio amps that
   worked by various means. They were oft employed as public
   PA systems - very popular at big political rallys because
   the voice band was so piercing. Hitler woulda loved 'em.

   http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/COMMS/trumechamp/trumechamp.htm

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_air_gramophone

   http://www.vias.org/crowhurstba/crowhurst_basic_audio_vol1_028.html

   The more common design was compressed air modulated by something
   like a needle attached to the mic diaphragm - a spring would
   counterbalance the air pressure partially - they were basically
   class-A amps. Feed that modulated air into a big folded horn
   assembly and some say you could get 120db.

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#64449 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<fe4ea0bd-1086-3e00-78e2-af90bbc7a35c@example.net>
In reply to#64419

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/15/25 4:13 AM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>>>  the thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>>>  on other tasks.
>>>> 
>>>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
>>>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
>>>> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>>> 
>>> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
>>> by Mordecai Roshwald.
>> 
>> Sigh... makes one despair of ever writing an original science fiction 
>> novel! =(
>
>
>  Hard to do now ... most everything will derive from
>  many other existing sources/premises even if you try
>  to avoid it. Kinda like rock/pop now ... last even
>  remotely 'different' sound was 'grunge' - and that
>  was 'remotely'.

Hmm, I think going full circle is then the way to go. Dig up a concept 
that has been forgotten for a 100 years or so, and perhaps it will be nice 
and fresh! ;)

Two books on that theme are Flatland which is about a 2d world and adding 
a few dimensions instead, there was a book by Greg Egan I think, which was 
about uploaded virtual entities. Cannot remember the name at the moment. I 
like that concept! I'm currently watching season 2 of pantheon, and it's 
going downhill. In the virtual world they are using way too many physical 
shortcuts to illustrate fights etc. It can of course be argued that the 
brains of the virtual entities have not yet adapter, but I think that's a 
lazy excuse. It would be interesting to think about if it would be 
possible to represent virtual uploaded entities in a way that might make 
them seem more native to their world, instead of just reusing our physical 
world for easy comprehension.

>  Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
>  their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
>  their skills with their instruments was initially SO
>  poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands  :-)
>
>  Something really new - beyond 'space' and 'multiverses',
>  'galactic empires', dubious 'time travel' and 'AI' - will
>  have to be on the horizon before sci-fi can move up a notch.
>  All that stuff is old and creaky and over-exploited.

Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for 
nerds! ;) Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice 
merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio free 
albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was interesting to 
read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto biographical from 
the point of view of Philip K. Dick.

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#64467 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-16 20:59 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<luta8nF4jtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#64449
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:54 +0100, D wrote:

> Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for
> nerds!  Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice
> merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio free
> albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was interesting
> to read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto biographical
> from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.

Teilhard's mix kept him in hot water. His books never quite made it to the 
Index but he was not allowed to publish during his lifetime. 

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#64499 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-17 10:15 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<540570ad-3aee-b555-b3ec-5de023da06c5@example.net>
In reply to#64467

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:54 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for
>> nerds!  Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice
>> merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio free
>> albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was interesting
>> to read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto biographical
>> from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.
>
> Teilhard's mix kept him in hot water. His books never quite made it to the
> Index but he was not allowed to publish during his lifetime.
>

Ahh... the church. Never keeps censoring! ;)

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#64539 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-17 19:40 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<luvq27Fc5laU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#64499
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:15:55 +0100, D wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:54 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for
>>> nerds!  Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice
>>> merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio
>>> free albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was
>>> interesting to read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto
>>> biographical from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.
>>
>> Teilhard's mix kept him in hot water. His books never quite made it to
>> the Index but he was not allowed to publish during his lifetime.
>>
>>
> Ahh... the church. Never keeps censoring! ;)

Well they do expect Jesuit priests to keep to the party line. 

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#64558 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-18 11:40 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<91d19130-8738-615a-4295-c35b2512e8c5@example.net>
In reply to#64539

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:15:55 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:54 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for
>>>> nerds!  Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice
>>>> merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio
>>>> free albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was
>>>> interesting to read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto
>>>> biographical from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.
>>>
>>> Teilhard's mix kept him in hot water. His books never quite made it to
>>> the Index but he was not allowed to publish during his lifetime.
>>>
>>>
>> Ahh... the church. Never keeps censoring! ;)
>
> Well they do expect Jesuit priests to keep to the party line.
>

This is the truth!

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#64589 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-18 19:42 +0000
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<lv2eh7FouuaU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#64558
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:40:04 +0100, D wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:15:55 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:54 +0100, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is
>>>>> for nerds!  Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a
>>>>> nice merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading
>>>>> Radio free albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity.
>>>>> Was interesting to read up on the story that parts of it are
>>>>> actually auto biographical from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.
>>>>
>>>> Teilhard's mix kept him in hot water. His books never quite made it
>>>> to the Index but he was not allowed to publish during his lifetime.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ahh... the church. Never keeps censoring! ;)
>>
>> Well they do expect Jesuit priests to keep to the party line.
>>
>>
> This is the truth!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre

Lemaître wasn't a Jesuit but he wasn't mixing science with theology. 
Teilhard strayed a long way from anthropology.

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#64598 — Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-19 11:44 +0100
SubjectRe: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Message-ID<d16035d4-4ca8-58f6-e9c7-85753ee84a91@example.net>
In reply to#64589

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On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:40:04 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:15:55 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:54 +0100, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is
>>>>>> for nerds!  Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a
>>>>>> nice merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading
>>>>>> Radio free albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity.
>>>>>> Was interesting to read up on the story that parts of it are
>>>>>> actually auto biographical from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.
>>>>>
>>>>> Teilhard's mix kept him in hot water. His books never quite made it
>>>>> to the Index but he was not allowed to publish during his lifetime.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ahh... the church. Never keeps censoring! ;)
>>>
>>> Well they do expect Jesuit priests to keep to the party line.
>>>
>>>
>> This is the truth!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
>
> Lemaître wasn't a Jesuit but he wasn't mixing science with theology.
> Teilhard strayed a long way from anthropology.

Fertile and creative minds naturally expand and broaden themselves, 
refusing to be limited by artificial boxes such as geology, theology, 
physics.

They roam freely from field to field, making fascinating discoveries as 
they go! =)

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