Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

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Subject	Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)
Date	2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/15/25 4:13 AM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>>>  the thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>>>  on other tasks.
>>>> 
>>>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
>>>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
>>>> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>>> 
>>> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
>>> by Mordecai Roshwald.
>> 
>> Sigh... makes one despair of ever writing an original science fiction 
>> novel! =(
>
>
>  Hard to do now ... most everything will derive from
>  many other existing sources/premises even if you try
>  to avoid it. Kinda like rock/pop now ... last even
>  remotely 'different' sound was 'grunge' - and that
>  was 'remotely'.

Hmm, I think going full circle is then the way to go. Dig up a concept 
that has been forgotten for a 100 years or so, and perhaps it will be nice 
and fresh! ;)

Two books on that theme are Flatland which is about a 2d world and adding 
a few dimensions instead, there was a book by Greg Egan I think, which was 
about uploaded virtual entities. Cannot remember the name at the moment. I 
like that concept! I'm currently watching season 2 of pantheon, and it's 
going downhill. In the virtual world they are using way too many physical 
shortcuts to illustrate fights etc. It can of course be argued that the 
brains of the virtual entities have not yet adapter, but I think that's a 
lazy excuse. It would be interesting to think about if it would be 
possible to represent virtual uploaded entities in a way that might make 
them seem more native to their world, instead of just reusing our physical 
world for easy comprehension.

>  Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
>  their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
>  their skills with their instruments was initially SO
>  poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands  :-)
>
>  Something really new - beyond 'space' and 'multiverses',
>  'galactic empires', dubious 'time travel' and 'AI' - will
>  have to be on the horizon before sci-fi can move up a notch.
>  All that stuff is old and creaky and over-exploited.

Easy! Meta-multiverse, that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for 
nerds! ;) Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice 
merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio free 
albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was interesting to 
read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto biographical from 
the point of view of Philip K. Dick.

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