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GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

Started byChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
First post2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
Last post2025-01-03 11:32 +0100
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  GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 17:13 +0000
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 10:57 -0800
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 19:27 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 11:59 -0800
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-26 20:22 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:37 -0800
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 14:41 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-27 10:42 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 16:23 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-28 07:25 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 15:12 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 14:51 -0600
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:14 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 17:57 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:36 -0500
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-29 16:00 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:06 -0500
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:28 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 09:22 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:40 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:01 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 18:18 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:04 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:08 +0100
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:29 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:32 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:55 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:53 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:54 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:04 -0600
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 09:39 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:24 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:56 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:21 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:16 +0100
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:39 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 13:50 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-27 12:22 +0100
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:56 -0500
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 08:00 -0800
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:52 -0500
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-27 09:25 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 10:08 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-27 06:34 -0600
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 00:10 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:22 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-28 11:04 -0600
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 17:21 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:31 -0500
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 12:47 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:07 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2024-12-28 19:13 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 23:50 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 23:47 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 09:37 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:44 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:34 -0500
                              Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 22:02 +0000
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:56 -0500
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:00 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:54 +0100
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:16 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-31 02:49 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 13:23 +0100
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:47 -0500
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:41 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:47 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:22 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lem Novantotto <Lem@none.invalid> - 2024-12-28 20:49 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 00:30 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:59 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:54 +0000
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 21:53 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:06 -0500
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-29 08:15 +1000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:29 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:31 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:53 +0100
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:15 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-31 07:31 +1000
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 12:40 +0100
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:55 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 01:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:53 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:46 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 12:49 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:09 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:59 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:16 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 02:19 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:30 +0100
                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 20:04 +0000
                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-03 01:50 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 03:13 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-03 12:32 +0100
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:48 +0000
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 01:13 +0100
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 06:44 +0000
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 06:58 -0500
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 12:07 +0000
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 08:32 -0500
                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:02 +0000
                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-03 11:31 -0500
                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 16:43 +0000
                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 13:37 -0500
                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 01:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 12:13 +0100
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 06:16 -0500
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-04 10:58 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:01 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-04 15:48 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:43 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:06 +0100
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:52 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:38 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 09:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:54 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:21 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:17 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 13:43 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 21:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:11 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:01 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:36 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:22 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:57 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 08:49 -0500
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:06 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 19:09 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-06 15:54 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 16:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 17:37 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:57 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 08:43 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 09:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 11:26 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 11:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:14 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:44 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:00 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:35 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:46 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:12 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 21:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:16 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:50 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-08 09:45 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-07 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 04:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:25 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:21 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:37 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:25 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-01-08 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:05 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:47 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:51 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-07 20:52 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:05 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-08 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 20:18 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 09:58 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 15:17 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:50 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 10:20 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:43 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 18:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 06:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-11 07:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 10:55 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:27 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 06:56 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 18:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:20 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 08:48 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 16:14 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:19 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 17:48 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 06:55 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:16 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 16:20 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-11 07:08 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 07:21 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 08:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:45 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 07:43 -0600
                                                                                                                              TL;DR: cry harder! (was: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: TL;DR: idiot and liar claims "victory"! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 22:50 -0600
                                                                                                    Climate change mitigations Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:37 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:31 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:06 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:37 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 13:05 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 23:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:16 +0000
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 13:25 -0500
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:51 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:02 -0500
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                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:55 -0500
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                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-15 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-15 06:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:49 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:53 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 18:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:19 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:46 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 22:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Tribes and Ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-16 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Tribes and Ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-16 20:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:41 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-18 19:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-19 18:11 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-16 08:08 -0500
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-13 05:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                          Biker Gangs Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:43 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 01:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:13 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 14:00 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:25 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-09 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:34 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:51 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 11:31 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 12:12 -0500
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 12:04 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:16 +0000
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                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 02:36 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 13:21 +0000
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:41 -0600
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:23 -0600
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:07 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 20:46 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:33 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-10 23:14 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 20:03 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Business cultures Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:11 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:27 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:46 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-09 12:28 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:18 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:50 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:55 -0600
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 20:16 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:36 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 07:54 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 03:18 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 22:32 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:21 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 21:54 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 09:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-11 07:44 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:53 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 08:17 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 13:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-13 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:09 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 23:41 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:48 -0500
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-19 20:10 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-13 08:03 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:35 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 03:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-16 01:23 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-13 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 21:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:31 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:06 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 14:23 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:57 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:45 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                            Traveling and Travel Planning Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Traveling and Travel Planning rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:40 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:55 +0000
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                                                                                                          Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 19:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:35 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 07:48 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 20:19 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:53 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:55 -0800
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:42 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:30 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:54 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:00 -0600
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:42 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:47 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:53 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 22:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:40 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:49 +0000
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 23:03 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:03 -0600
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:53 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 14:23 -0700
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 19:11 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 18:31 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:55 -0800
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:23 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 06:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 02:04 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:07 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 12:25 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:35 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:08 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:22 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:44 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:51 +0000
                                                                                  (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-08 18:57 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:23 -0500
                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 11:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:49 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:21 -0600
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 22:43 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:50 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 08:35 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:02 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:43 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:49 -0500
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:34 +0000
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                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:25 +0000
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                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:52 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:22 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 09:02 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:32 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 15:00 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 20:19 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 10:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:16 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:30 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:50 -0500
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:46 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:27 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:51 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:26 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:02 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:48 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 00:48 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:15 -0500
                                                                                              The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 21:59 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:18 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 15:38 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:27 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 03:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:09 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 01:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:12 -0500
                                                                                              Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-10 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-11 01:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-11 05:23 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:48 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 07:02 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:00 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:51 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:05 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:49 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-12 14:06 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:42 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:51 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-14 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 04:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:18 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:55 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 12:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:00 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-14 23:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:07 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 23:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 20:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 14:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 18:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:06 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:51 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:23 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:40 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:31 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:16 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:48 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:32 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-12 21:47 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 02:41 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-13 03:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:47 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:56 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:53 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:13 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 04:32 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:00 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:46 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:39 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:15 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-11 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                      The Joys of Motorola Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The Joys of Motorola "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:38 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:08 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 07:05 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:21 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:23 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-14 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 03:59 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:29 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 18:01 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:51 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:46 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:31 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:03 +0100
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                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 17:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:59 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-05 23:47 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-06 02:23 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:50 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 12:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:41 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:53 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:07 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:49 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:49 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 04:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-08 00:29 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:50 +0100
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:06 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:49 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:46 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 23:14 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:24 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:45 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:27 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:59 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:03 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 02:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:23 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 07:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:32 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 22:29 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 00:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-07 18:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:22 +0000
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#65474

From"WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-02-12 17:09 -0500
Message-ID<DKOcnSWcJP6OgTD6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#65463
On 2/12/25 3:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote at 16:17 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:29:43 -0500
>> "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing wrong, or unique, about fixed-size arrays. You don't want
>>> them for some stuff, do want them for other stuff. CAN elim a lot of
>>> range-checking code.
>>
>> Nothing wrong with fixed-size arrays as a general concept, no. Treating
>> the size as *part of the type specification* so that passing ARRAY
>> [1..15] OF CHAR to a function expecting ARRAY [1..10] OF CHAR yields a
>> type mismatch is what's utterly demented; a true Wirth original, that.
>>
>> I have never yet heard a sensible case made for a language where array
>> sizes are known, but no FOR EACH IN (x) construct is provided. Doing it
>> C's way at least offers you flexibility and performance in exchange for
>> the risk of shooting yourself in the foot; offering a way to iterate
>> transparently across arrays of arbitrary size at least gives you safety
>> and convenience in exchange for the performance penalty of bounds-
>> checking. Wirth's approach offers the worst of both worlds, for no
>> material gain whatsoever - absolutely bonkers.
> 
> 
> If you really need to, you can also pass by pointer?


   In PASCAL ? Sure.

   As for including size info in arrays ... makes good
   sense to me. EZ to know what you're dealing with.
   Liked the old short-strings in Turbo - the first byte
   was the string length.

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#65476

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-12 14:54 -0800
Message-ID<20250212145430.00001040@gmail.com>
In reply to#65474
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:09:18 -0500
"WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> As for including size info in arrays ... makes good sense to me. EZ
> to know what you're dealing with. Liked the old short-strings in
> Turbo - the first byte was the string length.

There's definitely an argument to be made for including bounds info as
part of the array structure. There's no argument (that I've ever heard)
to be made for making it part of the *type specification.* Any line of
reasoning that says a carton of six eggs and a carton of twelve eggs
are somehow different *kinds* of objects and their contents incomparable
is fundamentally deranged.

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#65479

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-02-13 04:01 +0000
Message-ID<vojqqp$2klsq$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#65476
On 12/02/2025 22:54, John Ames wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:09:18 -0500
> "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
> 
>> As for including size info in arrays ... makes good sense to me. EZ
>> to know what you're dealing with. Liked the old short-strings in
>> Turbo - the first byte was the string length.
> 
> There's definitely an argument to be made for including bounds info as
> part of the array structure. There's no argument (that I've ever heard)
> to be made for making it part of the *type specification.* Any line of
> reasoning that says a carton of six eggs and a carton of twelve eggs
> are somehow different *kinds* of objects and their contents incomparable
> is fundamentally deranged.
> 
The problem with languages designed to let stupid people program safely 
is that as in the case with all highest common factor legislation, the 
majority suffers to protect the few idiots from themselves.


-- 
Any fool can believe in principles -  and most of them do!


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#65480

From"WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-02-12 23:41 -0500
Message-ID<6fqdnVeJects6jD6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#65479
On 2/12/25 11:01 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 12/02/2025 22:54, John Ames wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:09:18 -0500
>> "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As for including size info in arrays ... makes good sense to me. EZ
>>> to know what you're dealing with. Liked the old short-strings in
>>> Turbo - the first byte was the string length.
>>
>> There's definitely an argument to be made for including bounds info as
>> part of the array structure. There's no argument (that I've ever heard)
>> to be made for making it part of the *type specification.* Any line of
>> reasoning that says a carton of six eggs and a carton of twelve eggs
>> are somehow different *kinds* of objects and their contents incomparable
>> is fundamentally deranged.
>>
> The problem with languages designed to let stupid people program safely 
> is that as in the case with all highest common factor legislation, the 
> majority suffers to protect the few idiots from themselves.


   But IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY ???

   There have always been some idiots in programming/development.
   That percentage, for a number of reasons, seems to have steeply
   increased.

   Almost ALL of western economies absolutely DEPEND on the
   net/cloud/systems in order to function - commerce, banking,
   the infrastructure, transport, energy, supply/demand, mil
   and security - ALL of it.

   As it appears very difficult to weed out the idiots, and
   years to create a new class of Competent, the second tier
   approach is to COPE with them. Alas this means much more
   'idiot-proof' computer languages/systems no matter the
   cost/hassle to the competent fraction.

   Nobody wants to hear this, but Real is Real.

   As for including type info - limits and more - the effective
   overhead in these days of gigabit flow and GHz multicore chips
   is negligible. As such I'd say to include it one way or another.

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#65486

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-02-13 11:21 +0000
Message-ID<vokkk0$2sj30$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#65480
On 13/02/2025 04:41, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> On 2/12/25 11:01 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 12/02/2025 22:54, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:09:18 -0500
>>> "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As for including size info in arrays ... makes good sense to me. EZ
>>>> to know what you're dealing with. Liked the old short-strings in
>>>> Turbo - the first byte was the string length.
>>>
>>> There's definitely an argument to be made for including bounds info as
>>> part of the array structure. There's no argument (that I've ever heard)
>>> to be made for making it part of the *type specification.* Any line of
>>> reasoning that says a carton of six eggs and a carton of twelve eggs
>>> are somehow different *kinds* of objects and their contents incomparable
>>> is fundamentally deranged.
>>>
>> The problem with languages designed to let stupid people program 
>> safely is that as in the case with all highest common factor 
>> legislation, the majority suffers to protect the few idiots from 
>> themselves.
> 
> 
>    But IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY ???
> 
Yes.

>    There have always been some idiots in programming/development.
>    That percentage, for a number of reasons, seems to have steeply
>    increased.
> 
>    Almost ALL of western economies absolutely DEPEND on the
>    net/cloud/systems in order to function - commerce, banking,
>    the infrastructure, transport, energy, supply/demand, mil
>    and security - ALL of it.
> 
>    As it appears very difficult to weed out the idiots, and
>    years to create a new class of Competent, the second tier
>    approach is to COPE with them. Alas this means much more
>    'idiot-proof' computer languages/systems no matter the
>    cost/hassle to the competent fraction.
> 
You can trade efficiency of the generated code for efficiency in writing 
it. By adopting standard engineering practicves iof quality control

Code needs to be tested and certified like an aircraft or a car.,  and 
if it doesn't work it needs to go back and be fixed by random code 
monkeys until it works better.

And once you have a good stable design dont fuck with it.

Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more 
marketable.

>    Nobody wants to hear this, but Real is Real.
> 
>    As for including type info - limits and more - the effective
>    overhead in these days of gigabit flow and GHz multicore chips
>    is negligible. As such I'd say to include it one way or another.

Well it isn't negligible. My friend who does research into huge 
mathematical matrices has been busy translating some Intel assembler 
that makes use of 512 bit registers, into C.
So he can port the code to ARM. It runs at a shade less than half the speed.
Since a full run takes several months, this is significant.

He really doesn't need some random memory management getting in the way. 
His arrays typically exceed the memory size of the machine (128Gbyte I 
think) and need custom tuning to get swapped in and out efficiently.

I think the real problem is that code is written for consumers, even 
when it needs to be of professional quality. Banking software that ought 
to be rock solid COBOL is given a pretty face with java and javascript 
to make the thing appeal to modern numpties who think that a smart phone 
is 'hi tech' and where it's at..

-- 
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to 
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

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#65495

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-02-13 22:10 +0100
Message-ID<0e2c5a01-c097-cdd2-70dd-29ae4a46a806@example.net>
In reply to#65486

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On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 13/02/2025 04:41, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>> On 2/12/25 11:01 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 12/02/2025 22:54, John Ames wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:09:18 -0500
>>>> "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As for including size info in arrays ... makes good sense to me. EZ
>>>>> to know what you're dealing with. Liked the old short-strings in
>>>>> Turbo - the first byte was the string length.
>>>> 
>>>> There's definitely an argument to be made for including bounds info as
>>>> part of the array structure. There's no argument (that I've ever heard)
>>>> to be made for making it part of the *type specification.* Any line of
>>>> reasoning that says a carton of six eggs and a carton of twelve eggs
>>>> are somehow different *kinds* of objects and their contents incomparable
>>>> is fundamentally deranged.
>>>> 
>>> The problem with languages designed to let stupid people program safely is 
>>> that as in the case with all highest common factor legislation, the 
>>> majority suffers to protect the few idiots from themselves.
>> 
>>
>>    But IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY ???
>> 
> Yes.
>
>>    There have always been some idiots in programming/development.
>>    That percentage, for a number of reasons, seems to have steeply
>>    increased.
>>
>>    Almost ALL of western economies absolutely DEPEND on the
>>    net/cloud/systems in order to function - commerce, banking,
>>    the infrastructure, transport, energy, supply/demand, mil
>>    and security - ALL of it.
>>
>>    As it appears very difficult to weed out the idiots, and
>>    years to create a new class of Competent, the second tier
>>    approach is to COPE with them. Alas this means much more
>>    'idiot-proof' computer languages/systems no matter the
>>    cost/hassle to the competent fraction.
>> 
> You can trade efficiency of the generated code for efficiency in writing it. 
> By adopting standard engineering practicves iof quality control
>
> Code needs to be tested and certified like an aircraft or a car.,  and if it 
> doesn't work it needs to go back and be fixed by random code monkeys until it 
> works better.
>
> And once you have a good stable design dont fuck with it.
>
> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more 
> marketable.

There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres 
come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.

I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I 
remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.

>>    Nobody wants to hear this, but Real is Real.
>>
>>    As for including type info - limits and more - the effective
>>    overhead in these days of gigabit flow and GHz multicore chips
>>    is negligible. As such I'd say to include it one way or another.
>
> Well it isn't negligible. My friend who does research into huge mathematical 
> matrices has been busy translating some Intel assembler that makes use of 512 
> bit registers, into C.
> So he can port the code to ARM. It runs at a shade less than half the speed.
> Since a full run takes several months, this is significant.
>
> He really doesn't need some random memory management getting in the way. His 
> arrays typically exceed the memory size of the machine (128Gbyte I think) and 
> need custom tuning to get swapped in and out efficiently.
>
> I think the real problem is that code is written for consumers, even when it 
> needs to be of professional quality. Banking software that ought to be rock 
> solid COBOL is given a pretty face with java and javascript to make the thing 
> appeal to modern numpties who think that a smart phone is 'hi tech' and where 
> it's at..
>
>

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#65500

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-02-13 22:17 +0000
Message-ID<m179bkFtl7lU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#65495
On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:10:25 +0100, D wrote:

> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/27/
microsoft_builds_open_source_document/

Strange bedfellows.

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#65513

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-02-14 09:43 +0100
Message-ID<a8ec1ec0-4acd-05f3-5a7f-31f142716167@example.net>
In reply to#65500

On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:10:25 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>
> https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/27/
> microsoft_builds_open_source_document/
>
> Strange bedfellows.
>

Strange. I don't like it! Will their tentacles destroy the project?

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#65528

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-02-14 20:17 +0000
Message-ID<m19mnjFb494U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#65513
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 09:43:37 +0100, D wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:10:25 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and
>>> Postgres come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/27/
>> microsoft_builds_open_source_document/
>>
>> Strange bedfellows.
>>
>>
> Strange. I don't like it! Will their tentacles destroy the project?

I don't think so although their choice of Postgres rather than SQL Server 
is interesting. The target seems to be MongoDB. If you want to get 
paranoid MongoDB is funded in part by In-Q-Tel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel

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#65532

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-02-14 22:51 +0100
Message-ID<4ee08e30-46c5-b7d4-02f0-2fbd21038601@example.net>
In reply to#65528

On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 09:43:37 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:10:25 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and
>>>> Postgres come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/27/
>>> microsoft_builds_open_source_document/
>>>
>>> Strange bedfellows.
>>>
>>>
>> Strange. I don't like it! Will their tentacles destroy the project?
>
> I don't think so although their choice of Postgres rather than SQL Server
> is interesting. The target seems to be MongoDB. If you want to get
> paranoid MongoDB is funded in part by In-Q-Tel.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel

Haha, just an admission of how shitty their own products are. Just like 
Azure, I'm sure (pun intended) is built on linux, and their ship of 
theseus project with WSL. =D

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#65507

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2025-02-14 05:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvqtk6a.2up9n.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#65495
D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>
> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[snip]
>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more 
>> marketable.
>
> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres 
> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>
> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I 
> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
[snip]


Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?
-- 
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#65516

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-02-14 09:46 +0100
Message-ID<c09c2475-44b2-1d47-c0f6-3c104091c762@example.net>
In reply to#65507

On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>
>> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more
>>> marketable.
>>
>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>
>> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I
>> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
> [snip]
>
>
> Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?

Yes... a nice, small, community oriented conference, so plenty of time to 
shake hands and ask questions. =)

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#65561

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2025-02-15 23:30 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvr28j5.3ojci.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#65516
D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 08:46 this Friday (GMT):
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>
>>> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more
>>>> marketable.
>>>
>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>>
>>> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I
>>> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>> Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?
>
> Yes... a nice, small, community oriented conference, so plenty of time to 
> shake hands and ask questions. =)


Tell us how it goes!
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#65566

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-02-15 21:48 -0500
Message-ID<j9SdnfZx1bZhzCz6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#65561
On 2/15/25 6:30 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 08:46 this Friday (GMT):
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>    This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>>>    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>>
>>>> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more
>>>>> marketable.
>>>>
>>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>>>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>>>
>>>> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I
>>>> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?
>>
>> Yes... a nice, small, community oriented conference, so plenty of time to
>> shake hands and ask questions. =)
> 
> 
> Tell us how it goes!


   Uugh ... lots of PEOPLE wanting to talk at you,
   quiz you, touch you with diseased digits !!!  :-(

   Maybe an online thing ... with a prominent handy
   OFF-line button  :-)

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#65573

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-02-16 11:44 +0100
Message-ID<3212761a-994e-a86e-7933-c98cf9a2df5e@example.net>
In reply to#65561

On Sat, 15 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 08:46 this Friday (GMT):
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>>>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>>
>>>> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more
>>>>> marketable.
>>>>
>>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>>>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>>>
>>>> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I
>>>> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?
>>
>> Yes... a nice, small, community oriented conference, so plenty of time to
>> shake hands and ask questions. =)
>
>
> Tell us how it goes!
>

Sure will, if I remember. It is in may, so a long time left. But it looks 
as if things will shape up into a nice event. =)

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#65640

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2025-02-19 20:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvrcehr.28jm6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#65573
D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 10:44 this Sunday (GMT):
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 08:46 this Friday (GMT):
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>>>>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more
>>>>>> marketable.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>>>>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I
>>>>> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?
>>>
>>> Yes... a nice, small, community oriented conference, so plenty of time to
>>> shake hands and ask questions. =)
>>
>>
>> Tell us how it goes!
>>
>
> Sure will, if I remember. It is in may, so a long time left. But it looks 
> as if things will shape up into a nice event. =)


Best of luck!
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#65574

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-02-16 11:45 +0100
Message-ID<76751362-589e-4409-d10a-b4523dc6c857@example.net>
In reply to#65561

On Sat, 15 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 08:46 this Friday (GMT):
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 21:10 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>>>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>>
>>>> --8323328-96014315-1739481027=:12115
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>>> Modern software is always being randomly fiddled with to make it more
>>>>> marketable.
>>>>
>>>> There are good examples I think we could learn from. SQlite and Postgres
>>>> come to mind as software projects that have been quite solid.
>>>>
>>>> I will meet the creator of curl in a few months, and I will ask (if I
>>>> remember) his opinion on how to write good quality software.
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, that's really cool! Is it for a conference or something?
>>
>> Yes... a nice, small, community oriented conference, so plenty of time to
>> shake hands and ask questions. =)
>
>
> Tell us how it goes!
>

I was actually thinking about trying to make him write a short book (if he 
hasn't alrady) about his views on software engineering and design. I think 
I will ask him about it! =)

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#65489

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-13 08:03 -0800
Message-ID<20250213080300.00001d26@gmail.com>
In reply to#65480
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:41:23 -0500
"WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> As for including type info - limits and more - the effective overhead
> in these days of gigabit flow and GHz multicore chips is negligible.
> As such I'd say to include it one way or another.

Again, if you want to argue for the safety of enforced bounds-checking
being worth the trade-off in performance, I'm willing to entertain that
argument, even if I only situationally agree. Lots of languages have
chosen to make that trade, and more power to 'em.

But what remains absolutely - and, AFAIK, uniquely - *demented* is for
a language to specify that *two arrays of different sizes are different
types of entity,* even if their elements are identically-typed.

There is *no* reason that I can see to do this. A language that forgoes
bounds-checking entirely gains some performance, at the cost of safety;
a language that includes bounds info as part of the array's structure
gains safety and convenience at the cost of some performance. Pascal,
on the other hand, gets no performance advantage, while burdening the
programmer with all the bookkeeping that is *necessary* for safety in
languages like C, even though it keeps all the information needed to
provide a less burdensome, more convenient alternative. Truly deranged.

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#65490

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-02-13 18:14 +0000
Message-ID<volcpu$30n7k$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#65489
On 13/02/2025 16:03, John Ames wrote:
>   Pascal,
> on the other hand, gets no performance advantage, while burdening the
> programmer with all the bookkeeping that is*necessary*  for safety in
> languages like C, even though it keeps all the information needed to
> provide a less burdensome, more convenient alternative. Truly deranged.

My one and only experience of Pascal was trying to interface with a 
pseudo ram disk. It proved impossible to read a sector and then use two 
bytes here as 16 bit address - a byte there as something else and then 
maybe the whole sector as a data sector.
I rewrote it in C and just cast pointers into the sector to pick up 
whatever I needed.

Will never ever touch Pascal again. Heap of shit for rank amateurs
-- 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the 
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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#65551

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-02-15 07:34 -0500
Message-ID<voq1ju$v3u$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#65490
The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 13/02/2025 16:03, John Ames wrote:
>>   Pascal,
>> on the other hand, gets no performance advantage, while burdening the
>> programmer with all the bookkeeping that is*necessary*  for safety in
>> languages like C, even though it keeps all the information needed to
>> provide a less burdensome, more convenient alternative. Truly deranged.
>
> My one and only experience of Pascal was trying to interface with a 
> pseudo ram disk. It proved impossible to read a sector and then use two 
> bytes here as 16 bit address - a byte there as something else and then 
> maybe the whole sector as a data sector.
> I rewrote it in C and just cast pointers into the sector to pick up 
> whatever I needed.
>
> Will never ever touch Pascal again. Heap of shit for rank amateurs

I got exposed, accidentally, to Borland's Delphi (Object Pascal)
when our group started using Borland C++. Found myself in the debugger
stepping through Pascal-like code.

Sic transit gloria Borland.

-- 
"I'm growing older, but not up."
		-- Jimmy Buffett

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