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GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

Started byChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
First post2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
Last post2025-01-03 11:32 +0100
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  GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 17:13 +0000
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 10:57 -0800
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 19:27 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 11:59 -0800
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-26 20:22 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:37 -0800
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 14:41 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-27 10:42 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 16:23 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-28 07:25 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 15:12 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 14:51 -0600
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:14 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 17:57 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:36 -0500
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-29 16:00 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:06 -0500
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:28 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 09:22 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:40 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:01 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 18:18 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:04 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:08 +0100
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:29 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:32 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:55 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:53 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:54 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:04 -0600
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 09:39 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:24 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:56 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:21 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:16 +0100
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:39 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 13:50 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-27 12:22 +0100
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:56 -0500
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 08:00 -0800
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:52 -0500
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-27 09:25 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 10:08 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-27 06:34 -0600
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 00:10 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:22 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-28 11:04 -0600
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 17:21 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:31 -0500
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 12:47 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:07 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2024-12-28 19:13 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 23:50 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 23:47 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 09:37 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:44 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:34 -0500
                              Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 22:02 +0000
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:56 -0500
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:00 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:54 +0100
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:16 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-31 02:49 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 13:23 +0100
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:47 -0500
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:41 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:47 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:22 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lem Novantotto <Lem@none.invalid> - 2024-12-28 20:49 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 00:30 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:59 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:54 +0000
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 21:53 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:06 -0500
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-29 08:15 +1000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:29 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:31 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:53 +0100
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:15 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-31 07:31 +1000
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 12:40 +0100
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:55 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 01:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:53 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:46 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 12:49 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:09 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:59 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:16 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 02:19 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:30 +0100
                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 20:04 +0000
                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-03 01:50 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 03:13 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-03 12:32 +0100
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:48 +0000
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 01:13 +0100
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 06:44 +0000
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 06:58 -0500
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 12:07 +0000
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 08:32 -0500
                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:02 +0000
                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-03 11:31 -0500
                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 16:43 +0000
                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 13:37 -0500
                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 01:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 12:13 +0100
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 06:16 -0500
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-04 10:58 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:01 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-04 15:48 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:43 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:06 +0100
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:52 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:38 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 09:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:54 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:21 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:17 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 13:43 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 21:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:11 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:01 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:36 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:22 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:57 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 08:49 -0500
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:06 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 19:09 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-06 15:54 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 16:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 17:37 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:57 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 08:43 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 09:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 11:26 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 11:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:14 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:44 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:00 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:35 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:46 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:12 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 21:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:16 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:50 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-08 09:45 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-07 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 04:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:25 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:21 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:37 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:25 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-01-08 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:05 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:47 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:51 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-07 20:52 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:05 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-08 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 20:18 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 09:58 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 15:17 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:50 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 10:20 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:43 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 18:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 06:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-11 07:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 10:55 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:27 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 06:56 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 18:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:20 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 08:48 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 16:14 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:19 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 17:48 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 06:55 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:16 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 16:20 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-11 07:08 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 07:21 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 08:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:45 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 07:43 -0600
                                                                                                                              TL;DR: cry harder! (was: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: TL;DR: idiot and liar claims "victory"! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 22:50 -0600
                                                                                                    Climate change mitigations Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:37 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:31 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:06 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:37 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 13:05 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 23:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:16 +0000
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 13:25 -0500
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:51 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:02 -0500
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                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:55 -0500
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                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-15 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-15 06:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:49 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:53 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 18:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:19 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:46 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 22:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Tribes and Ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-16 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Tribes and Ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-16 20:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:41 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-18 19:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-19 18:11 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-16 08:08 -0500
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-13 05:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                          Biker Gangs Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:43 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 01:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:13 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 14:00 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:25 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-09 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:34 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:51 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 11:31 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 12:12 -0500
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 12:04 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:16 +0000
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                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 02:36 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 13:21 +0000
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:41 -0600
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:23 -0600
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:07 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 20:46 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:33 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-10 23:14 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 20:03 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Business cultures Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:11 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:27 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:46 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-09 12:28 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:18 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:50 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:55 -0600
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 20:16 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:36 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 07:54 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 03:18 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 22:32 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:21 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 21:54 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 09:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-11 07:44 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:53 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 08:17 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 13:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-13 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:09 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 23:41 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:48 -0500
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-19 20:10 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-13 08:03 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:35 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 03:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-16 01:23 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-13 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 21:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:31 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:06 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 14:23 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:57 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:45 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                            Traveling and Travel Planning Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Traveling and Travel Planning rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:40 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:55 +0000
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                                                                                                          Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 19:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:35 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 07:48 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 20:19 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:53 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:55 -0800
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:42 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:30 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:54 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:00 -0600
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:42 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:47 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:53 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 22:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:40 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:49 +0000
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 23:03 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:03 -0600
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:53 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 14:23 -0700
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 19:11 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 18:31 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:55 -0800
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:23 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 06:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 02:04 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:07 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 12:25 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:35 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:08 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:22 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:44 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:51 +0000
                                                                                  (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-08 18:57 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:23 -0500
                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 11:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:49 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:21 -0600
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 22:43 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:50 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 08:35 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:02 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:43 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:49 -0500
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:34 +0000
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                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:25 +0000
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                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:52 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:22 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 09:02 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:32 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 15:00 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 20:19 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 10:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:16 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:30 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:50 -0500
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:46 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:27 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:51 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:26 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:02 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:48 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 00:48 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:15 -0500
                                                                                              The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 21:59 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:18 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 15:38 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:27 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 03:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:09 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 01:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:12 -0500
                                                                                              Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-10 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-11 01:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-11 05:23 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:48 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 07:02 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:00 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:51 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:05 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:49 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-12 14:06 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:42 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:51 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-14 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 04:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:18 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:55 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 12:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:00 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-14 23:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:07 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 23:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 20:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 14:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 18:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:06 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:51 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:23 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:40 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:31 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:16 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:48 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:32 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-12 21:47 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 02:41 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-13 03:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:47 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:56 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:53 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:13 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 04:32 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:00 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:46 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:39 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:15 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-11 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                      The Joys of Motorola Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The Joys of Motorola "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:38 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:08 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 07:05 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:21 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:23 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-14 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 03:59 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:29 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 18:01 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:51 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:46 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:31 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:03 +0100
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                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 17:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:59 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-05 23:47 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-06 02:23 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:50 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 12:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:41 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:53 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:07 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:49 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:49 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 04:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-08 00:29 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:50 +0100
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:06 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:49 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:46 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 23:14 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:24 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:45 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:27 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:59 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:03 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 02:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:23 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 07:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:32 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 22:29 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 00:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-07 18:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:56 +0100
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#63332

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-30 09:22 +0000
Message-ID<vktont$1img1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63328
On 30/12/2024 04:28, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> 
>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine inevitably
>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with it,
>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from Framework
>> or System76.
> 
> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a little
> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is in use
> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower than the
> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a big
> deal.
+1

-- 
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house 
for the voice of the kingdom.

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#63355

FromAndrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Date2024-12-30 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<mpxcP.21639$zX7.2509@fx37.iad>
In reply to#63328
On 2024-12-29 23:28, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> 
>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine inevitably
>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with it,
>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from Framework
>> or System76.
> 
> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a little
> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is in use
> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower than the
> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a big
> deal.

Nowadays, speed is only an issue if you're playing games or encoding 
videos. Otherwise, the machines we were running even around 2010 should 
be more than sufficient for the majority of people and their use of the 
web, social media and e-mail. Sure, it won't load as fast as a machine 
from this decade, but it's not the kind of difference as people suffered 
through when some were running Pentiums and others still used a 386.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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#63374

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2024-12-30 23:01 +0100
Message-ID<7rhb4lxcj1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#63355
On 2024-12-30 14:40, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-12-29 23:28, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine inevitably
>>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with it,
>>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from Framework
>>> or System76.
>>
>> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a 
>> little
>> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
>> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is in use
>> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower than the
>> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a big
>> deal.
> 
> Nowadays, speed is only an issue if you're playing games or encoding 
> videos. Otherwise, the machines we were running even around 2010 should 
> be more than sufficient for the majority of people and their use of the 
> web, social media and e-mail. Sure, it won't load as fast as a machine 
> from this decade, but it's not the kind of difference as people suffered 
> through when some were running Pentiums and others still used a 386.

Memory can be an issue, though.

I had to change to another machine for two reasons. One, that 8 GiB was 
not enough, machine was swapping actively, and the motherboard was maxed.

This is because software became memory hogs. Thunderbird, Firefox with a 
bunch of windows, and LO. After a week, they eat memory.

The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.

The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its power is 
fine, and is over 10 year old.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#63377

FromAndrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Date2024-12-30 18:18 -0500
Message-ID<6TFcP.237557$%aWb.97056@fx18.iad>
In reply to#63374
On 2024-12-30 17:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-30 14:40, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-12-29 23:28, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine inevitably
>>>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>>>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with it,
>>>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from 
>>>> Framework
>>>> or System76.
>>>
>>> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a 
>>> little
>>> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
>>> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is in use
>>> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower than the
>>> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a big
>>> deal.
>>
>> Nowadays, speed is only an issue if you're playing games or encoding 
>> videos. Otherwise, the machines we were running even around 2010 
>> should be more than sufficient for the majority of people and their 
>> use of the web, social media and e-mail. Sure, it won't load as fast 
>> as a machine from this decade, but it's not the kind of difference as 
>> people suffered through when some were running Pentiums and others 
>> still used a 386.
> 
> Memory can be an issue, though.
> 
> I had to change to another machine for two reasons. One, that 8 GiB was 
> not enough, machine was swapping actively, and the motherboard was maxed.

I found this to be an issue even with the new MacBook Air M1. Regardless 
of what Apple claims, 8GB on Apple silicon is not like 16GB on a PC. 8GB 
was great in 2010, not in 2021.

> This is because software became memory hogs. Thunderbird, Firefox with a 
> bunch of windows, and LO. After a week, they eat memory.

I imagine that you never closed those programs. Do they have known 
memory leaks?

> The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
> nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.
> 
> The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its power is 
> fine, and is over 10 year old.

As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 8xx 
range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the firmware 
is closed. What was the card you were using?

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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#63381

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 03:04 +0100
Message-ID<930c4lxr9h.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#63377
On 2024-12-31 00:18, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-12-30 17:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-30 14:40, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-29 23:28, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine 
>>>>> inevitably
>>>>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>>>>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with 
>>>>> it,
>>>>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from 
>>>>> Framework
>>>>> or System76.
>>>>
>>>> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a 
>>>> little
>>>> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
>>>> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is in 
>>>> use
>>>> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower than 
>>>> the
>>>> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a big
>>>> deal.
>>>
>>> Nowadays, speed is only an issue if you're playing games or encoding 
>>> videos. Otherwise, the machines we were running even around 2010 
>>> should be more than sufficient for the majority of people and their 
>>> use of the web, social media and e-mail. Sure, it won't load as fast 
>>> as a machine from this decade, but it's not the kind of difference as 
>>> people suffered through when some were running Pentiums and others 
>>> still used a 386.
>>
>> Memory can be an issue, though.
>>
>> I had to change to another machine for two reasons. One, that 8 GiB 
>> was not enough, machine was swapping actively, and the motherboard was 
>> maxed.
> 
> I found this to be an issue even with the new MacBook Air M1. Regardless 
> of what Apple claims, 8GB on Apple silicon is not like 16GB on a PC. 8GB 
> was great in 2010, not in 2021.
> 
>> This is because software became memory hogs. Thunderbird, Firefox with 
>> a bunch of windows, and LO. After a week, they eat memory.
> 
> I imagine that you never closed those programs. Do they have known 
> memory leaks?

No, but they don't seem to have a proper memory cleaning strategy. 
Probably fragmentation.

> 
>> The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
>> nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.
>>
>> The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its power 
>> is fine, and is over 10 year old.
> 
> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 8xx 
> range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the firmware 
> is closed. What was the card you were using?

MSI N9500GT-MS1G-OC, says the cardbox.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#63391

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 11:01 +0000
Message-ID<vl0iu7$26pnn$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63381
On 31/12/2024 02:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine that you never closed those programs. Do they have known 
>> memory leaks?
> 
> No, but they don't seem to have a proper memory cleaning strategy. 
> Probably fragmentation.
> 
Firefox itself doesn't have memory leaks, but its perfectly possible to 
write crap javaScript that does.

I periodically close my windows and start again.

>>
>>> The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
>>> nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.
>>>
>>> The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its power 
>>> is fine, and is over 10 year old.
>>
>> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 
>> 8xx range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the 
>> firmware is closed. What was the card you were using?
> 
> MSI N9500GT-MS1G-OC, says the cardbox.
> 
There is a December 2024 release of drivers for this card.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-in/drivers/details/237926/

Driver Version: 	550.142
Release Date: 	Tue Dec 17, 2024
Operating System: 	Linux 64-bit
Language: 	English (India)
File Size: 	307.3 MB

-- 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the 
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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#63433

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 20:08 +0100
Message-ID<03sd4lxvh1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#63391
On 2024-12-31 12:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/12/2024 02:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>> I imagine that you never closed those programs. Do they have known 
>>> memory leaks?
>>
>> No, but they don't seem to have a proper memory cleaning strategy. 
>> Probably fragmentation.
>>
> Firefox itself doesn't have memory leaks, but its perfectly possible to 
> write crap javaScript that does.

You are right.

> 
> I periodically close my windows and start again.

I noticed a big improvement when I placed swap on an SSD.

I noticed that the hard disk was working hard, guessing that the memory 
chunks were fragmented. A lot of head movement. I guessed that an SSD 
would improve things, and yea, it did, a lot.

Of course, the rest of the system is on SSD as well.

> 
>>>
>>>> The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
>>>> nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.
>>>>
>>>> The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its 
>>>> power is fine, and is over 10 year old.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 
>>> 8xx range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the 
>>> firmware is closed. What was the card you were using?
>>
>> MSI N9500GT-MS1G-OC, says the cardbox.
>>
> There is a December 2024 release of drivers for this card.
> 
> https://www.nvidia.com/en-in/drivers/details/237926/
> 
> Driver Version:     550.142
> Release Date:     Tue Dec 17, 2024
> Operating System:     Linux 64-bit
> Language:     English (India)
> File Size:     307.3 MB

Well, too late for this machine. It is now in storage. I used it for 
guests I had, using nouveau, and then it is simply stored.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#63442

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-31 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<ltj2gnF2k4sU12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63391
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 11:01:27 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Firefox itself doesn't have memory leaks, but its perfectly possible to
> write crap javaScript that does.

17.3 147:19.74 Privileged Cont

I think that may be associated with Firefox.  It is the largest user of 
memory by far. Next in the list is 3.7%  Isolated Web Co.

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#63418

FromAndrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Date2024-12-31 08:32 -0500
Message-ID<PnScP.111407$Uup4.14814@fx10.iad>
In reply to#63381
On 2024-12-30 21:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-31 00:18, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-12-30 17:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-30 14:40, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-29 23:28, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine 
>>>>>> inevitably
>>>>>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>>>>>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten 
>>>>>> with it,
>>>>>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from 
>>>>>> Framework
>>>>>> or System76.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a 
>>>>> little
>>>>> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
>>>>> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is 
>>>>> in use
>>>>> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower 
>>>>> than the
>>>>> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a 
>>>>> big
>>>>> deal.
>>>>
>>>> Nowadays, speed is only an issue if you're playing games or encoding 
>>>> videos. Otherwise, the machines we were running even around 2010 
>>>> should be more than sufficient for the majority of people and their 
>>>> use of the web, social media and e-mail. Sure, it won't load as fast 
>>>> as a machine from this decade, but it's not the kind of difference 
>>>> as people suffered through when some were running Pentiums and 
>>>> others still used a 386.
>>>
>>> Memory can be an issue, though.
>>>
>>> I had to change to another machine for two reasons. One, that 8 GiB 
>>> was not enough, machine was swapping actively, and the motherboard 
>>> was maxed.
>>
>> I found this to be an issue even with the new MacBook Air M1. 
>> Regardless of what Apple claims, 8GB on Apple silicon is not like 16GB 
>> on a PC. 8GB was great in 2010, not in 2021.
>>
>>> This is because software became memory hogs. Thunderbird, Firefox 
>>> with a bunch of windows, and LO. After a week, they eat memory.
>>
>> I imagine that you never closed those programs. Do they have known 
>> memory leaks?
> 
> No, but they don't seem to have a proper memory cleaning strategy. 
> Probably fragmentation.
> 
>>
>>> The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
>>> nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.
>>>
>>> The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its power 
>>> is fine, and is over 10 year old.
>>
>> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 
>> 8xx range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the 
>> firmware is closed. What was the card you were using?
> 
> MSI N9500GT-MS1G-OC, says the cardbox.

It sounds to me like an ancient 9500GT. In this case, Nouveau would 
actually be better than the NVIDIA driver in terms of power consumption 
whereas the NVIDIA would be slightly better for 3D performance. 
<https://www.phoronix.com/review/nouveau_comp_2011/5> Note that the 
article in question is from 2011, so Nouveau on that card might have 
improved tremendously since.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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#63390

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 10:55 +0000
Message-ID<vl0iii$26pnn$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63377
On 30/12/2024 23:18, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 8xx 
> range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the firmware 
> is closed. What was the card you were using?

  Ive never had a problem getting correct Nvidia drivers for the gfx cards.

-- 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the 
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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#63421

FromAndrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Date2024-12-31 08:53 -0500
Message-ID<pHScP.13175$XfF8.7444@fx04.iad>
In reply to#63390
On 2024-12-31 05:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 30/12/2024 23:18, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 
>> 8xx range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the 
>> firmware is closed. What was the card you were using?
> 
>   Ive never had a problem getting correct Nvidia drivers for the gfx cards.

That wasn't my concern. I was suggesting that if the NVIDIA drivers were 
no longer supported or didn't work correctly, you could rely on Nouveau 
and not lose any of the functionality. Up to the GTX 8xx range, Nouveau 
does a good job. If I could use the free driver, I would but I use an 
RTX3060 which only gets basic support.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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#63447

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
Message-ID<DEYcP.131272$aTp4.18299@fx09.iad>
In reply to#63390
On 2024-12-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 30/12/2024 23:18, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, Nouveau has full support for NVIDIA GPUs into the 8xx 
>> range. Anything after that doesn't get full support because the firmware 
>> is closed. What was the card you were using?
>
>   Ive never had a problem getting correct Nvidia drivers for the gfx cards.

I recently had to get a newer video card because the newer Nvidia driver
didn't support the old one, and Debian Bookworm doesn't support the older
Nvidia drivers that supported the card.  Ah well, I was replacing the
motherboard anyway...

I've never had much luck with nouveau - too many lockups.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#63389

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 10:54 +0000
Message-ID<vl0igf$26pnn$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63374
On 30/12/2024 22:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-30 14:40, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-12-29 23:28, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:06:31 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine inevitably
>>>> kicks the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my
>>>> hardware every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with it,
>>>> I'll be satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from 
>>>> Framework
>>>> or System76.
>>>
>>> My Fedora box is a ten year old Dell with a 4th gen i5. I did get a 
>>> little
>>> snappier processor on eBay and added 8 GB or RAM and a SSD but I'm not
>>> planning an upgrade. The only limitation is the only PCIe slot is in use
>>> so the SSD is SATA rather than NVMe so it boots a little slower than the
>>> Ryzen 7 Ubuntu box.  Considering it's been up 41 days that is not a big
>>> deal.
>>
>> Nowadays, speed is only an issue if you're playing games or encoding 
>> videos. Otherwise, the machines we were running even around 2010 
>> should be more than sufficient for the majority of people and their 
>> use of the web, social media and e-mail. Sure, it won't load as fast 
>> as a machine from this decade, but it's not the kind of difference as 
>> people suffered through when some were running Pentiums and others 
>> still used a 386.
> 
> Memory can be an issue, though.
> 
> I had to change to another machine for two reasons. One, that 8 GiB was 
> not enough, machine was swapping actively, and the motherboard was maxed.
> 
> This is because software became memory hogs. Thunderbird, Firefox with a 
> bunch of windows, and LO. After a week, they eat memory.
> 
> The other reason is that Nvidia had stopped supporting my card, and 
> nouveau was not up to the task. I changed to AMD video.
> 
> The older machine I used for a time for guests. Works fine, its power is 
> fine, and is over 10 year old.
> 

My Nvidia equipped  machine is my interim server. (Pi4B coming soon). 
Around 10 years old now

Intel onboard graphics now is sufficient for my desktop.

I too had to increase from 8GB mostly because massive loads of shit 
written in python are memory gobblers.

As is 3GB dedicated to a WINDOWS XP VM.

HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF Quad Core i5-6500 is what it says it is

Its about 5 years old now. There are tons of this class of machine going 
for peanuts everywhere. They were sold to small businesses as office 
machines. In fact its the cheapest way to buy that processor!

I cant recommend this enough for Linux. I cant remember if I had to mess 
with the bios to get the right boot, but once it booted into the live CD 
it was utterly plain sailing.


-- 
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house 
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

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#63413

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 06:04 -0600
Message-ID<09n7nj1ib72ul96t3hefn4r12qlavmlv8a@4ax.com>
In reply to#63389
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF Quad Core i5-6500 is what it says it is

Ha!  I recently bought two of these for work.  Only $150 each with 16G
RAM and an SSD and legal Win10 Pro.  Really a steal, if you don't need
the Win11 HW requirements.

>Its about 5 years old now. There are tons of this class of machine going 
>for peanuts everywhere. They were sold to small businesses as office 
>machines. In fact its the cheapest way to buy that processor!

-- 
"Even RedHat only stands behind their product while you're actively
paying for support."  -  lying asshole "-hh", whining that Free
software doesn't come with free support.

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#63426

FromAndrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Date2024-12-31 09:39 -0500
Message-ID<JmTcP.186393$DYF8.80232@fx14.iad>
In reply to#63413
On 2024-12-31 07:04, chrisv wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF Quad Core i5-6500 is what it says it is
> 
> Ha!  I recently bought two of these for work.  Only $150 each with 16G
> RAM and an SSD and legal Win10 Pro.  Really a steal, if you don't need
> the Win11 HW requirements.
> 
>> Its about 5 years old now. There are tons of this class of machine going
>> for peanuts everywhere. They were sold to small businesses as office
>> machines. In fact its the cheapest way to buy that processor!

I'll bet that they run any distribution out there just fine and allow 
you to do just as much as a new computer running Windows 11.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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#63430

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 17:24 +0000
Message-ID<vl19d9$2b37q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63413
On 31/12/2024 12:04, chrisv wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF Quad Core i5-6500 is what it says it is
> 
> Ha!  I recently bought two of these for work.  Only $150 each with 16G
> RAM and an SSD and legal Win10 Pro.  Really a steal, if you don't need
> the Win11 HW requirements.

I've seen em as low as £75.

It really is more than good enough for my needs

I think they were sold in millions in 2015 -2016 and are all now 'fully 
depreciated' and being sold as scrap, minus the HDDs which get crushed.

Totally recommended to anyone as a cheap reliable vanilla Linux desktop. 
They just work.



-- 
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah 
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

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#63432

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-31 18:56 +0000
Message-ID<vl1epp$2c01d$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63389
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:54:07 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I too had to increase from 8GB mostly because massive loads of shit 
> written in python are memory gobblers.

Could be worse. Could have been Java.

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#63347

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-12-30 13:21 +0100
Message-ID<a6608a81-5a2c-19fe-13e2-e32b8ae77d70@example.net>
In reply to#63318

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> On 2024-12-29 16:00, TJ wrote:
>> On 2024-12-29 12:57, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> I scoff at these idiots who purchase exorbitant pickup trucks/SUVs
>>> and then fill them up with sub-grade, discount gasoline.
>>> 
>>> Every vehicle deserves only TOP TIER gas, and every computer deserves
>>> only customized GNU/Linux.
>>> 
>> My grandfather's 72-year-old tractor is still an important part of our 
>> machinery fleet, used almost every day during the growing season. The 
>> manual states: "Use a good, clean, gasoline with an octane rating of at 
>> least 65."
>> 
>> I can't find any of the 65 octane stuff, so I use 87, closest I can get. 
>> With an optional manifold, the manual says the tractor is supposed to be 
>> able to run on something called "low-cost fuel," whatever that is. I can't 
>> find any of that, either.
>> 
>> I *could* buy premium, TOP TIER gas for it, but it would be a complete 
>> waste of money that I don't have, and I might have to de-tune the timing so 
>> it would run the way it should. I don't have the time, or the inclination, 
>> to do that.
>> 
>> As for my Linux installs, Mageia only needs a little customization here and 
>> there to get it the way I like it, so that's what I use. Besides, as the 
>> Leader of the Mageia Quality Assurance Team, I really ought to use the 
>> distro pretty much as is if it's to stay usable by the less experienced 
>> users that don't know yet what to change and what to leave alone.
>> 
>> YMMV.
>> 
>> TJ
>
> If I can use this laptop with Fedora on it until the machine inevitably kicks 
> the bucket, I'll be happy. I don't like the idea of changing my hardware 
> every three, four or even five years. If I can go ten with it, I'll be 
> satisfied to retire it in favour of something new from Framework or System76.

I usually buy a new laptop every 3 to 4 years, but that's because I'm 
interested in how hw develops and I see it as a bit of luxury that I can 
afford.

My old laptop goes to my father, and his old laptop does duty as a music 
player or backup server or something similar. I think the oldest one he 
has is a 11 or 12 year old macbook air, but the battery time is down to 30 
minutes or so, so that one is pretty close to retirement.

I'm looking to acquire a new laptop to use as my backup server. The 
existing one is 9 years old, and I'd like to buy one with at least 1 TB of 
ssd disk instead of the 512 I have today. Let's see if this is the year 
when I'll run into something attractive, although I can't escape the 
feeling that it should be possible to get one for free from some company.

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#63345

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-12-30 13:16 +0100
Message-ID<d26db1f9-92bc-3ee6-0925-1d53b43edbfa@example.net>
In reply to#63312

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, TJ wrote:

> On 2024-12-29 12:57, Farley Flud wrote:
>> I scoff at these idiots who purchase exorbitant pickup trucks/SUVs
>> and then fill them up with sub-grade, discount gasoline.
>> 
>> Every vehicle deserves only TOP TIER gas, and every computer deserves
>> only customized GNU/Linux.
>> 
> My grandfather's 72-year-old tractor is still an important part of our 
> machinery fleet, used almost every day during the growing season. The manual 
> states: "Use a good, clean, gasoline with an octane rating of at least 65."
>
> I can't find any of the 65 octane stuff, so I use 87, closest I can get. With 
> an optional manifold, the manual says the tractor is supposed to be able to 
> run on something called "low-cost fuel," whatever that is. I can't find any 
> of that, either.
>
> I *could* buy premium, TOP TIER gas for it, but it would be a complete waste 
> of money that I don't have, and I might have to de-tune the timing so it 
> would run the way it should. I don't have the time, or the inclination, to do 
> that.
>
> As for my Linux installs, Mageia only needs a little customization here and 
> there to get it the way I like it, so that's what I use. Besides, as the 
> Leader of the Mageia Quality Assurance Team, I really ought to use the distro 
> pretty much as is if it's to stay usable by the less experienced users that 
> don't know yet what to change and what to leave alone.
>
> YMMV.
>
> TJ
>

What makes Mageia unique or different? I haven't heard about it before.

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#63304

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-29 19:39 +0000
Message-ID<vks8gp$1551l$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63293
On 29/12/2024 16:14, -hh wrote:
> On 12/28/24 10:12 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 07:25:04 -0500, -hh wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> He's in YA cycle of building a new PC, which instead of taking hours to
>>> get up & running has already consumed a few weeks...
>>>
>>
>> FYFI, my new Xeon W-1270P 8-core machine with 32G ECC memory
>> was originally purchased as a replacement for my Core i7
>> which I believed was failing.
>>
>> However, after cleaning the heavy dust accumulation from the
>> heat sink fan I have not had a recurrence of the symptoms that
>> I had at first attributed to a failing MB.
> 
> Translation:  self-proclaimed "expert" in everything fails on basic 
> troubleshooting due to housekeeping maintenance failure/laziness.
> 
>> Now I am stuck with a new machine that I don't really need
>> and I am in no fucking hurry to get it up and running.
> 
> Translation: a fiscal *and* a productivity squandering.
> 
>> But I will have to eventually trash the Core i7 machine even
>> though a highly tuned GNU/Linux installation makes it operate
>> as good or better than the latest gens.
> 
> Translation: attempting to save face by noting that all tech eventually 
> becomes obsolete, even if that day for this year is still years away. 
> Meantime, the new PC sits idle.
> 
>> I have Winblows 10/11 installed on the cheapest junk hardware
>> that I possess because that's all that the junk OS deserves.
> 
> Translation: not competent enough to get Linux running on even
> bare iron in less than a week.
> 
> #
Who bit your bum today?


> -hh

-- 
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

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