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GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

Started byChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
First post2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
Last post2025-01-03 11:32 +0100
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  GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 17:13 +0000
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 10:57 -0800
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 19:27 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 11:59 -0800
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-26 20:22 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:37 -0800
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 14:41 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-27 10:42 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 16:23 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-28 07:25 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 15:12 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 14:51 -0600
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:14 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 17:57 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:36 -0500
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-29 16:00 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:06 -0500
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:28 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 09:22 +0000
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:40 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:01 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 18:18 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:04 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:08 +0100
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:29 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:32 -0500
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:55 +0000
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:53 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:54 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:04 -0600
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 09:39 -0500
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:24 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:56 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:21 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:16 +0100
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:39 +0000
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 13:50 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-27 12:22 +0100
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:56 -0500
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 08:00 -0800
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:52 -0500
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-27 09:25 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 10:08 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-27 06:34 -0600
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 00:10 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:22 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-28 11:04 -0600
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 17:21 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:31 -0500
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 12:47 -0500
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:07 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2024-12-28 19:13 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 23:50 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 23:47 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 09:37 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:44 +0100
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:34 -0500
                              Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 22:02 +0000
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:56 -0500
                                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:00 +0000
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:54 +0100
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:16 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-31 02:49 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 13:23 +0100
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:47 -0500
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:41 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:47 +0000
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:22 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lem Novantotto <Lem@none.invalid> - 2024-12-28 20:49 +0000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 00:30 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:59 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:54 +0000
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 21:53 +0000
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:06 -0500
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-29 08:15 +1000
                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:29 +0100
                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:31 -0500
                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:53 +0100
                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:15 -0500
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-31 07:31 +1000
                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 12:40 +0100
                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:55 -0500
                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 01:40 +0000
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:53 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:46 -0500
                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 12:49 +0100
                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:09 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:59 +0000
                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:16 +0100
                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 02:19 +0000
                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:30 +0100
                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 20:04 +0000
                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-03 01:50 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 03:13 +0000
                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-03 12:32 +0100
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:48 +0000
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 01:13 +0100
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 06:44 +0000
                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 06:58 -0500
                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 12:07 +0000
                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 08:32 -0500
                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:02 +0000
                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-03 11:31 -0500
                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 16:43 +0000
                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-03 13:37 -0500
                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 01:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-04 12:13 +0100
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 06:16 -0500
                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-04 10:58 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:01 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-04 15:48 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:43 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:06 +0100
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:52 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:38 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 09:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:54 -0500
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:21 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:17 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 13:43 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 21:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:11 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:01 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-05 10:36 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:22 -0500
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:57 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 08:49 -0500
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:06 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 19:09 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-06 15:54 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 16:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 17:37 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:57 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 08:43 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 09:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 11:26 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 11:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:14 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 13:44 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:00 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:35 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:46 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:12 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 21:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:16 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:50 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-08 09:45 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-07 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 04:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:25 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:21 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 14:37 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:25 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-01-08 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:05 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Time machine backups "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:47 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:51 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Time machine backups D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Time machine backups The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-07 20:52 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:05 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-08 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 20:18 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 09:58 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 15:17 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:50 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 10:20 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:43 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 18:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 04:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 06:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:23 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-11 07:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 10:55 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:27 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 06:56 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 18:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:20 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 08:48 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 16:14 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:19 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 17:48 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 06:55 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:16 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-10 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 16:20 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-11 07:08 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 07:21 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 08:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:45 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v (was: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 07:43 -0600
                                                                                                                              TL;DR: cry harder! (was: What change of position? YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: TL;DR: idiot and liar claims "victory"! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-12 22:50 -0600
                                                                                                    Climate change mitigations Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:37 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-07 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:31 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:06 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:37 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 13:05 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 23:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:16 +0000
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 13:25 -0500
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                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:51 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:02 -0500
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                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:55 -0500
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                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-15 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-15 06:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:49 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:53 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 18:28 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:19 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:46 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 10:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 22:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Tribes and Ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-16 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Tribes and Ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-16 20:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:41 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-18 19:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-19 18:11 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-16 08:08 -0500
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-13 05:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                          Biker Gangs Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:43 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 01:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:39 -0500
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:13 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 14:00 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:25 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-09 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:34 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:51 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 11:31 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 12:12 -0500
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 12:04 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:16 +0000
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                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 06:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 02:36 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 13:21 +0000
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 18:17 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:41 -0600
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:23 -0600
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:07 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 20:46 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:33 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-10 23:14 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 20:03 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                            Business cultures Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Business cultures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:11 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:27 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:46 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-09 12:28 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:18 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:50 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 13:55 -0600
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 20:16 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:36 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 07:54 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 03:18 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 22:32 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:21 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-09 21:54 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 09:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-11 07:44 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:53 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 08:17 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 13:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-13 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:09 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 23:41 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:21 +0000
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                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:48 -0500
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                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-19 20:10 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-13 08:03 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-15 21:35 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 03:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 22:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-16 01:23 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-13 07:34 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 21:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-15 07:31 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 23:06 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 14:23 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:57 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:45 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                            Traveling and Travel Planning Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Traveling and Travel Planning rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 22:40 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:55 +0000
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                                                                                                          Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-11 19:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: Travel Planning (was: Tasks where AI might be helpful) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:35 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 07:48 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 20:19 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:53 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 07:55 -0800
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:45 +0000
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                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:42 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:30 -0600
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 07:54 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:24 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:00 -0600
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:42 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:47 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:53 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 22:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:40 -0500
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                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:49 +0000
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                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 23:03 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:03 -0600
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:53 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 14:23 -0700
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 19:11 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 18:31 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:55 -0800
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:23 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 06:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 02:04 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:07 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 12:25 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:35 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:08 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:22 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:44 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:51 +0000
                                                                                  (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-08 18:57 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:23 -0500
                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 11:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:49 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:21 -0600
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 22:43 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:50 +0100
                                                                                              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 08:35 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:02 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:43 +0000
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:49 -0500
                                                                                    Re: (Excessive?) Complexity vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:34 +0000
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                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:25 +0000
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                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:52 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:22 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 09:02 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:32 -0500
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 15:00 -0500
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 20:19 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 10:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:16 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:30 +0000
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                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:28 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:50 -0500
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                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:46 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:27 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:51 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:26 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:02 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:48 +0000
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                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 00:48 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:15 -0500
                                                                                              The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 21:59 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:18 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 15:38 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:27 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 03:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:09 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 01:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:12 -0500
                                                                                              Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-10 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-11 01:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-11 05:23 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:48 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 07:02 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:00 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:51 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:05 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:49 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-12 14:06 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:42 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:51 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-14 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 04:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:18 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:55 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 12:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:00 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-14 23:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:07 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 11:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 23:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 20:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 14:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 18:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Scandinavian Humor and Other Myths rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:06 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:51 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:23 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:40 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:31 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:16 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:48 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:32 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-12 21:47 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 02:41 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-13 03:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:47 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:56 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:53 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:13 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 04:32 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:04 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:00 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:46 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:39 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:15 +0000
                                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-11 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:33 +0000
                                                                                                      The Joys of Motorola Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The Joys of Motorola "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:38 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:08 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 07:05 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:21 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:23 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-14 03:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 03:59 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:29 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 18:01 -0500
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:51 -0600
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:46 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:31 -0500
                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:03 +0100
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                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 17:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:59 +0100
                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-05 23:47 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-06 02:23 +0000
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:50 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 12:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:41 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:53 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:07 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:49 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:49 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 04:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-08 00:29 -0500
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:50 +0100
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:06 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:49 +0100
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:46 +0100
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 23:14 -0500
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:24 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:45 +0100
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:27 +0000
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:59 +0100
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:03 +0100
                                                                              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 02:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 22:23 -0500
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 07:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:32 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                                          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 +0000
                                                                                            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 22:29 -0500
                                                                                        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 00:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-07 18:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:56 +0100
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#63973

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-08 11:24 +0100
Message-ID<56863c9e-ff75-fe94-cedc-02551a790d28@example.net>
In reply to#63959

On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/7/25 2:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-01-07, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No amount of political will can solve the coming shortages, because
>>>> that's not where the will is being applied.  It's all going toward
>>> 
>>> This is incorrect. Shortages, and lack of political will, makes for
>>> excellent opportunities for political entrepreneurs.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, these people often do not have the common good in mind.
>> 
>>>> increasing our population beyond the ability of science to provide,
>>>> and ensuring that technological advances will never catch up with
>>>> ever-increasing demand.  (Besides, shortages drive prices up, which
>>>> is good for The Economy.)
>>> 
>>> This has been said since at least the 1800s, and has been equally wrong
>>> every single time. We have not even started to farm the seas and space.
>>> There are enormous areas available for farming on the planet, limitless
>>> energy, and NASA has proven that we're seeing global greening. Do not
>>> worry about increasing population.
>>> 
>>> In fact, if anything, population is stagnating. So throw away the
>>> mainstream media and enjoy life. We've never had it better, and we'll
>>> have it better still! =)
>> 
>> I hope you're right.  Most governments are quite alarmed at signs that
>> population growth is showing signs of slowing, and are doing their best
>> to push it back up.  Canada's soon-to-be-ex-prime minister managed to
>> double immigration, to nearly 500,000 people per year (multiply by 10
>> to scale it to U.S. proportions).  Some of these people were just dumped
>> onto the streets of Toronto with no place to go, having served their
>> purpose of getting the numbers up.  Meanwhile, last I heard there were
>> still 50 communities in the country without drinking water.  Priorities...
>
>
>  The first impulse is to blame the US border problem on
>  Joe/socialists trying to import lots of people who will
>  vote for them. However most 'Mexicans' are relatively
>  conservative Catholics and those from further south
>  have had very bad experiences with 'communists'. They
>  are not gonna be the next leftist slave class.
>
>  What they are is the fill-in for native-born Americans
>  who aren't borning many or any kiddies themselves.
>  The problem exists in the EU as well, and is worst in
>  Japan and Korea. Given the option, a LOT of women will
>  not have many or any children. This ages the overall
>  pop rather quickly. So, gotta start importing labor,
>  esp for the Shit Jobs. Downside, this keeps diluting
>  yer native culture and eventually You become Them.
>
>  The Taliban seem to have solved this - give women
>  no options but to be breeders. General wealth is
>  also not high enough, so kids become yer support
>  army.
>
>  In the USA it is poor politics to SAY you need to
>  import foreign labor (we've seen this attitude
>  in play just the last week). In other nations
>  the notion is more politically acceptable.
>
>  Some imagine robots doing the shit work ... but despite
>  the hype I don't see General Purpose robots any time
>  soon. Yer human pop will still keep declining until
>  even the robots have nothing to do but maintain the
>  other robots.
>
>  Read "R.U.R." (Capek 1920) for fun.
>

I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to 
be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office 
jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of 
fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all 
day.

Everyone wins! =D

Yes, you may call me an optimist as an insult if you wish. I am an 
optimist, so deal with it. ;)

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#63974

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-08 11:52 +0000
Message-ID<vllotj$2ouqc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63973
On 08/01/2025 10:24, D wrote:
> I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to 
> be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office 
> jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of 
> fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all 
> day.
> 
> Everyone wins! =D

That doesn't solve the debt crisis. Somehow all the debts of the past 
have to be repaid with taxes from today. If there are no people working, 
what do you tax instead?


-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#64056

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-09 17:45 +0100
Message-ID<214f1427-5508-656e-28ae-e5688c33ca78@example.net>
In reply to#63974

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 08/01/2025 10:24, D wrote:
>> I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to be 
>> automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office jobs, 
>> and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of fiddling 
>> around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all day.
>> 
>> Everyone wins! =D
>
> That doesn't solve the debt crisis. Somehow all the debts of the past have to 
> be repaid with taxes from today. If there are no people working, what do you 
> tax instead?

Then we comfort ourselves with the idea that the change will not happen 
over night, and that repayments can be done gradually over time. We also 
comfort ourselves with the blessings of inflation, where our currencies 
and salaries nominally are constantly inflated, while our debt remain the 
same. ;)

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#64003

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-08 17:27 +0000
Message-ID<lu7qs6FesquU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63973
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:24:36 +0100, D wrote:

> I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to
> be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office
> jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of
> fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all
> day.

I think I've mentioned Kurt Vonnegut's first novel, 'Player Piano'. You 
should read it. He saw your shining future in the '50s.

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#64067

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-09 17:59 +0100
Message-ID<3c769276-b73d-aa28-8d0f-91c26243ca08@example.net>
In reply to#64003

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:24:36 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to
>> be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office
>> jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of
>> fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all
>> day.
>
> I think I've mentioned Kurt Vonnegut's first novel, 'Player Piano'. You
> should read it. He saw your shining future in the '50s.
>

Read it more than 2 decades ago, perhaps time to read it again. I think I 
like it!

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#63967

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-08 11:03 +0100
Message-ID<d19bbd3e-9bc2-90dd-c455-73bf6c3fefa9@example.net>
In reply to#63941

On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-01-07, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> No amount of political will can solve the coming shortages, because
>>> that's not where the will is being applied.  It's all going toward
>>
>> This is incorrect. Shortages, and lack of political will, makes for
>> excellent opportunities for political entrepreneurs.
>
> Unfortunately, these people often do not have the common good in mind.

This is the truth!

>>> increasing our population beyond the ability of science to provide,
>>> and ensuring that technological advances will never catch up with
>>> ever-increasing demand.  (Besides, shortages drive prices up, which
>>> is good for The Economy.)
>>
>> This has been said since at least the 1800s, and has been equally wrong
>> every single time. We have not even started to farm the seas and space.
>> There are enormous areas available for farming on the planet, limitless
>> energy, and NASA has proven that we're seeing global greening. Do not
>> worry about increasing population.
>>
>> In fact, if anything, population is stagnating. So throw away the
>> mainstream media and enjoy life. We've never had it better, and we'll
>> have it better still! =)
>
> I hope you're right.  Most governments are quite alarmed at signs that
> population growth is showing signs of slowing, and are doing their best
> to push it back up.  Canada's soon-to-be-ex-prime minister managed to
> double immigration, to nearly 500,000 people per year (multiply by 10
> to scale it to U.S. proportions).  Some of these people were just dumped
> onto the streets of Toronto with no place to go, having served their
> purpose of getting the numbers up.  Meanwhile, last I heard there were
> still 50 communities in the country without drinking water.  Priorities...

Ah... they copied the swedish method. It is not good. Sweden is the rape 
capital of europe, as well as quickly becoming the leader in shootings and 
public bombings.

I did see on the public mainstream news however, that the trend for 
shootings is down in 2024.

The question now is... is that just the combatants being a bit tired of 
the war on the streets, catching a break, or is it a trend?

If a trend, the answer might be to build out the mother of all 
surveillanec states, like sweden has just done.

We'll get another piece of the puzzle in 2026!

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#63903

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-06 20:17 -0500
Message-ID<ANGcnfgs4rkEHeH6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63884
On 1/6/25 5:49 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-01-05, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We have achienved something no other species has done. Science.
>>
>> Someone once pointed out, though, that for all the great things
>> science can do, it can't make the sun shine brighter or the
>> rivers run faster.  If our consumption continues to increase,
>> sooner or later we'll hit the crunch.
> 
> We can use things more effectively, we can build nuclear. In terms of 
> power we have no problem out all. This is a solved problem and only 
> requires political will.

   We ARE very wasteful - even with known-limited
   resources. There's mostly not enough money in
   're-cycling' to make it worth it (except in
   4th-world countries - oh reports are of a
   really good gold-recovery chemistry lately)

   How many neo magnets from old disk drives now
   reside in the bottom of landfills ? Most of
   those come from an ENEMY nation. I've seen pix
   of what Africans can do with waste plastics on
   a low budget (note, 4 parts sand to 1 part
   old jugs is best for construction bricks, found
   graphs somewhere). BUT, 1st world, the problems
   and regs and bureaucracy ruin it all. Can't get
   there from here.

   Nuke plants are good (I still like 'pebble bed' and
   apparently China is now into them). There's still a
   waste-disposal issue alas, what to do with stuff
   that's super-deadly for 99,000 years. Tectonics
   are too slow to just bag it and drop it in an
   ocean trench somewhere.

   "Better" is gonna require a SENSIBLE mix of energy
   technologies. No one thing can save us, but all
   COMBINED as best suited per-region can.

   And then there's the "expectations" issue ...
   eight BILLION all demanding a luxury 1st-
   world lifestyle they saw on TV. Even with
   better tech I just don't think that's gonna
   be possible for at least a century, maybe
   two or three. This causes DISCONTENT and
   lots of unpleasant POLITICS - followed by
   things on fire.

   And alas ... I don't see "AI" creating any kind
   of nirvana - more like rendering half the pop
   largely obsolete and crammed into horrible govt
   tenements until they rot and die .


>>> Add to that the ability to plan long term, and there's nothing
>>> to fear.
>>
>> Given the scarcity of companies that can see past the next quarter,
>> I think there's quite a lot to fear.
> 
> There are companies that are older than countries.


   Yea, but they mostly chose "bullet-proof" lines of biz.


>>> We can even nudge asteroids out of the way, should it be necessary.
>>
>> Or not.  See the Netflix movie _Don't Look Up_.
> 
> Sorry, forgot that source of eternal truth.

   Don't think asteroid mining can make a profit, at
   least not until there's something beyond Newtonian
   propulsion - IF there's such a thing.

   If you wanna be useful with asteroids, divert a bunch
   of big icy ones towards a soft-crash into Mars. THEN
   we'd have a spare planet.

>>> I'd argue, that we've actually far, far safer from changes in
>>> climate and our surroundings than we have ever been before.
>>
>> Well, the rich folk are, at least.
> 
> You can become rich too! Remember the locust protein company we've been 
> talking about. The idea is just sitting there for you to realize it! =D

   They re-named rapeseed oil and call MSG "natural
   flavor" and call Winders an operating system ... maybe
   they can de-locust powdered bug goop  :-)

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#63905

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-07 02:47 +0000
Message-ID<lu3iusFodf6U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63903
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:17:12 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/6/25 5:49 AM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-01-05, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have achienved something no other species has done. Science.
>>>
>>> Someone once pointed out, though, that for all the great things
>>> science can do, it can't make the sun shine brighter or the rivers run
>>> faster.  If our consumption continues to increase, sooner or later
>>> we'll hit the crunch.
>> 
>> We can use things more effectively, we can build nuclear. In terms of
>> power we have no problem out all. This is a solved problem and only
>> requires political will.
> 
>    We ARE very wasteful - even with known-limited resources. There's
>    mostly not enough money in 're-cycling' to make it worth it (except
>    in 4th-world countries - oh reports are of a really good
>    gold-recovery chemistry lately)

There are a few recycling projects that do make money and they don't 
require government intervention.  My information is from the '90s but 
there were two lead acid battery operations in the LA area and it was 
worth hauling junk batteries from Denver or further. The Kaiser aluminum 
smelter in Spokane also pulled in crushed aluminum cans from all over the 
west. The local pulp mill had cardboard hauled in but they shut down. 
There must still be a market since the company that handles the garbage 
has a separate dumpster for cardboard.

The oddest one was in Rancho Cucamonga. I hauled past the sell date beer 
from Denver. They distilled it for industrial alcohol.

Plastic recycling is problematic as is glass. I've got a suspicion after 
the people have their feel good moment separating the trash it still winds 
up in the same landfill.

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#63906

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-06 22:23 -0500
Message-ID<g82dnaITSd2yA-H6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63905
On 1/6/25 9:47 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:17:12 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>> On 1/6/25 5:49 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-05, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have achienved something no other species has done. Science.
>>>>
>>>> Someone once pointed out, though, that for all the great things
>>>> science can do, it can't make the sun shine brighter or the rivers run
>>>> faster.  If our consumption continues to increase, sooner or later
>>>> we'll hit the crunch.
>>>
>>> We can use things more effectively, we can build nuclear. In terms of
>>> power we have no problem out all. This is a solved problem and only
>>> requires political will.
>>
>>     We ARE very wasteful - even with known-limited resources. There's
>>     mostly not enough money in 're-cycling' to make it worth it (except
>>     in 4th-world countries - oh reports are of a really good
>>     gold-recovery chemistry lately)
> 
> There are a few recycling projects that do make money and they don't
> require government intervention.  My information is from the '90s but
> there were two lead acid battery operations in the LA area and it was
> worth hauling junk batteries from Denver or further. The Kaiser aluminum
> smelter in Spokane also pulled in crushed aluminum cans from all over the
> west. The local pulp mill had cardboard hauled in but they shut down.
> There must still be a market since the company that handles the garbage
> has a separate dumpster for cardboard.
> 
> The oddest one was in Rancho Cucamonga. I hauled past the sell date beer
> from Denver. They distilled it for industrial alcohol.
> 
> Plastic recycling is problematic as is glass. I've got a suspicion after
> the people have their feel good moment separating the trash it still winds
> up in the same landfill.


   I've seen many news reports of just that.

   Re-cycling, as I implied, is a profit/loss thing.
   Gotta be able to make at least a little money
   on it or ...

   Plastic IS a problem, mostly because there are SO
   many kinds. Glass seems more straight-up, but again
   I can see that the heat/stuff required to re-melt
   it aren't much from what it takes to make new glass.

   The stale beer -> ethanol thing is interesting.

   Cardboard ... may not REALLY be a market, just
   greenie pols trying to score points. However it
   might be good for lawn mulch or something similar.
   Hmmm ... new house, put a couple inches of ground
   cardboard down an then cover it with a few inches
   of good dirt. Oughtta hold lots of moisture.
   Structural uses ... the moment you crease the stuff
   it's lost mechanical strength, can't even soak it
   in glue/resin and make shelving. Just burn it at
   a power plant .......

   Styrofoam is a huge bugaboo. High volume with
   low mass. Can't really melt it properly. CAN
   dissolve it in some hydrocarbons and get a
   kind of degraded styrene goop, but I'm not sure
   what that's good for.

   Despite high visibility, maybe these things are
   not the most vital resources to re-cycle ???
   Waste of 'rare earths' is concerning. Once
   diluted across 100,000 landfills we're NOT
   gonna get 'em back. Hell, how much easy boron
   is there ... almost all goes down a million
   washer drains ......

   EVENTUALLY there may be tech for capturing such
   elements at-site, or even mining landfills for
   0.00000001% dilutions. But not anytime soon.

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#63911

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-07 07:42 +0000
Message-ID<lu447aFqpucU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63906
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 22:23:26 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:


>    Cardboard ... may not REALLY be a market, just greenie pols trying to
>    score points. However it might be good for lawn mulch or something
>    similar. Hmmm ... new house, put a couple inches of ground cardboard
>    down an then cover it with a few inches of good dirt. Oughtta hold
>    lots of moisture. Structural uses ... the moment you crease the stuff
>    it's lost mechanical strength, can't even soak it in glue/resin and
>    make shelving. Just burn it at a power plant .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCPeElrhbIQ

https://missoulacountyvoice.com/smurfit-stone-mill-site-cleanup

The second link is the local pulp mill which is now a SuperFund site. 
There was a plan to do something with the area but the settling ponds 
problem put it on hold. Fish & Game advises people to not eat the fish 
downstream. 

Back in the '90s I hauled in cardboard like shown in the video from as far 
away as Calgary. I also hauled chips a couple of times. That scrap from 
the sawmill planers. You have to level the load and tarp it which meant 
wading through the chips like a gerbil. At least they were clean and 
smelled good.  I also hauled the big rolls out, often to another Stone 
plant in Tracy CA.  

I don't know what proportion of scrap cardboard, chips, and trees that 
weren't good enough for the sawmills they used but there is a real market 
for cardboard.

>    Styrofoam is a huge bugaboo. High volume with low mass. Can't really
>    melt it properly. CAN dissolve it in some hydrocarbons and get a kind
>    of degraded styrene goop, but I'm not sure what that's good for.

You can melt polystyrene easily but the the trash is contaminated. In the 
early '80s I worked for SweetHeart's injection molding operation in 
Somerville MA. They made consumer foam dinnerware and also McDonald's foam 
clamshells. The nice thing about thermoplastics versus thermosets is you 
can reuse the scrap.  McDonald's was very picky and specified a particular 
shade of beige. Getting the right color assumed that there would be a 
certain amount of scrap that would be ground and recycled. If everything 
was running perfectly there wouldn't be enough scrap and the clamshells 
made with virgin crystal styrene weren't the right shade.

I think they use pentane for the blowing agent now but back then it was 
Freon-12, literally in railcar quantities. Damn the ozone layer, full 
speed ahead. The job had one advantage. Another part of the factory made 
both sugar and cake ice cream cones. When I was bored, which was most of 
the time, I would wander over and grab some sugar cones hot off the line. 

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#63914

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-07 10:32 +0000
Message-ID<vlivri$25740$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63905
On 07/01/2025 02:47, rbowman wrote:
> There are a few recycling projects that do make money and they don't
> require government intervention.  My information is from the '90s but
> there were two lead acid battery operations in the LA area and it was
> worth hauling junk batteries from Denver or further. 

I visited a lead recycling plant in France. It was part of a lead 
smelting operation. It was dripping sulphuric acid. They took car 
batteries and mashed them up and somehow fed them back into the ore 
processing chain.

>The Kaiser aluminum
> smelter in Spokane also pulled in crushed aluminum cans from all over the
> west. The local pulp mill had cardboard hauled in but they shut down.
> There must still be a market since the company that handles the garbage
> has a separate dumpster for cardboard.
> 
> The oddest one was in Rancho Cucamonga. I hauled past the sell date beer
> from Denver. They distilled it for industrial alcohol.
> 
Great idea!

> Plastic recycling is problematic as is glass. I've got a suspicion after
> the people have their feel good moment separating the trash it still winds
> up in the same landfill.

The best way is to burn it for power and heat generation. If the 
temperature is high enough all the nasties like dioxins break down and 
flue scrubbers take out anything that isn't CO2 or water...

Or you can depolymerise it for making 'fossil fuel'.

In fact feeding plastics into a nuclear reactor would result in plenty 
of combustible gases being produced.

It can all be done. The problem is cost. E.g. take grinding glass into 
sand. Its way more expensive than digging up sand that nature has 
already ground...In reality we ought to simply tip glass into the sea, 
and let that turn it into pebbles and sand over a century or so...but 
that's too simple even for Greens.

If we had shitloads of surplus heat and electricity from nuclear 
reactors that was almost free, many of these expensive processes would 
become cheap.



-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#63935

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-07 18:49 +0000
Message-ID<lu5b9jF2kc1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63914
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 10:32:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I visited a lead recycling plant in France. It was part of a lead
> smelting operation. It was dripping sulphuric acid. They took car
> batteries and mashed them up and somehow fed them back into the ore
> processing chain.

https://grist.org/accountability/california-communities-are-fighting-the-
last-battery-recycling-plant-in-the-west-and-its-toxic-legacy/

The article mentions the other recycling operation that was in City of 
Commerce that I knew as RSR in the '90s. Compared to it, Ecobat was high 
tech. You did not get out of the truck at either place as workers in space 
suits unloaded the truck. After you unloaded the trailer was cleaned out 
with pressure washers.

As a bit or irony newly manufactured car batteries were a hazardous 
materials load. 45,000 pounds of leaking dead batteries haphazardly piled 
on pallets were not considered hazardous. The distinction is very 
important if you're going from Denver to LA. hazmat loads cannot go 
through Eisenhower Tunnel so you get to take the scenic route over 
Loveland Pass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveland_Pass



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#63940

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-01-07 19:46 +0000
Message-ID<TwffP.288147$aTp4.187793@fx09.iad>
In reply to#63935
On 2025-01-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> As a bit or irony newly manufactured car batteries were a hazardous 
> materials load. 45,000 pounds of leaking dead batteries haphazardly piled 
> on pallets were not considered hazardous. The distinction is very 
> important if you're going from Denver to LA. hazmat loads cannot go 
> through Eisenhower Tunnel so you get to take the scenic route over 
> Loveland Pass.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveland_Pass

Holy cow.  That doesn't look like a fun place to haul 30,000 pounds
of bananas.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#63945

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-01-07 16:36 -0500
Message-ID<vlk6o0$2cqe6$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63940
Charlie Gibbs wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 2025-01-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> As a bit or irony newly manufactured car batteries were a hazardous 
>> materials load. 45,000 pounds of leaking dead batteries haphazardly piled 
>> on pallets were not considered hazardous. The distinction is very 
>> important if you're going from Denver to LA. hazmat loads cannot go 
>> through Eisenhower Tunnel so you get to take the scenic route over 
>> Loveland Pass.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveland_Pass
>
> Holy cow.  That doesn't look like a fun place to haul 30,000 pounds
> of bananas.

Here's another:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Creek_Pass

A humorous tune about it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6LzWZYWpOU

    C.W. McCall - Wolf Creek Pass

-- 
Yes, but every time I try to see things your way, I get a headache.

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#63952

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-08 01:07 +0000
Message-ID<lu61f2F5rfpU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63945
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:36:00 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Here's another:
> 
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Creek_Pass

A few years ago I took a spring trip back to the Kentucky / Virginia area. 
Short synopsis: it rained. I was going to do a little hiking on the AT but 
aborted and headed back west. The plan to do a hike on the Continental 
Divide trail also aborted because I hadn't brought my snowshoes. It 
finally stopped raining when I got to southern Utah and was hotter than 
hell in Canyonlands. 

I've been over Wolf Creek with a big truck too. Luckily I wasn't hauling 
chickens. 

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#63958

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-07 22:29 -0500
Message-ID<JZ-cnTxUcaaSbOD6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63952
On 1/7/25 8:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:36:00 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
>> Here's another:
>>
>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Creek_Pass
> 
> A few years ago I took a spring trip back to the Kentucky / Virginia area.
> Short synopsis: it rained. I was going to do a little hiking on the AT but
> aborted and headed back west. The plan to do a hike on the Continental
> Divide trail also aborted because I hadn't brought my snowshoes. It
> finally stopped raining when I got to southern Utah and was hotter than
> hell in Canyonlands.
> 
> I've been over Wolf Creek with a big truck too. Luckily I wasn't hauling
> chickens.

   I remember Wolf Creek ... but hey, if all the chickens
   flap at once it'll hold the truck in the air when you
   go off the side, right ?  :-)

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#63951

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-08 00:57 +0000
Message-ID<lu60qvF5rfpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63940
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 19:46:59 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-01-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> As a bit or irony newly manufactured car batteries were a hazardous
>> materials load. 45,000 pounds of leaking dead batteries haphazardly
>> piled on pallets were not considered hazardous. The distinction is very
>> important if you're going from Denver to LA. hazmat loads cannot go
>> through Eisenhower Tunnel so you get to take the scenic route over
>> Loveland Pass.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveland_Pass
> 
> Holy cow.  That doesn't look like a fun place to haul 30,000 pounds of
> bananas.

I've been over it in a normally aspirated, carbureted vehicle. You're not 
breaking any land speed records over the summit. At least the diesels have 
turbos. The fleet all had Jake brakes which help going down the other 
side. Some of the trucks from the east didn't. There's a reason for those 
escape ramps. 

It's pretty, though. In fact I-70 from Cove Fort UT to Denver is all very 
scenic. Scenic stops in east Colorado. The 108 miles from Salina UT to 
Green River UT over the San Rafael Swell is the longest stretch on 
interstate with no services. There are a couple of small rest areas but no 
water. If you want to star gaze, that's the place to be. Traffic drops off 
at night and there's no light pollution.

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#63930

FromLars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
Date2025-01-07 18:27 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvnqsg9.2ltvi.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
In reply to#63905
On 2025-01-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> There are a few recycling projects that do make money and they don't 
> require government intervention.  My information is from the '90s but 
> there were two lead acid battery operations in the LA area and it was 
> worth hauling junk batteries from Denver or further. The Kaiser aluminum 
> smelter in Spokane also pulled in crushed aluminum cans from all over the 
> west. The local pulp mill had cardboard hauled in but they shut down. 
> There must still be a market since the company that handles the garbage 
> has a separate dumpster for cardboard.
>
> The oddest one was in Rancho Cucamonga. I hauled past the sell date beer 
> from Denver. They distilled it for industrial alcohol.
>
> Plastic recycling is problematic as is glass. I've got a suspicion after 
> the people have their feel good moment separating the trash it still winds 
> up in the same landfill.

Paper that can be pulped /should/ be economical. I try to keep the bad
items out of my recycle bin:
* junkmail with "gifts" of address labels - I am sure the sticky and the
  wax paper backing clog up the pulp process.
* junkmail with coins glued to the reply coupon. Those nickels and
  quarters surely will damage the shredding machine.
* corrugated boxes with an excessive amount of plastic tape wrapped
  around them.
* retail packaging with a mix of cardboard and plastic parts.

Glass should be capable of being melted down, with most contaminants
turning into slag that can be skimmed off. But mostly it would be far
better to REUSE the class jars and bottles. That would require
standardization to create a viable return path. We use to do this back
in my native Denmark, when all the breweries (who also bottled most
sodas) had one 25 cemntiliter clear soda bottle and one green 37 cl beer
bottle. This was strained a bit by coca-cola who insisted on their
global unique bottles, and one brewery that had their own brown bottle
which theey insisted was needed to protect their ale from sunlight. But
it still worked, so long as we could ban the aluminum cans. Once the EU
decided that this was "market distortion" the recycling became MUCH less
efficient. But still, Danes take their empty bottles back to the store
where they buy the full ones, and put them in reverse vending machines.

Plastic is hard, because there are endless variations of materials.
Plastic film is the worst, because it eventually gets ground into
microbe-sized micro-plastic bits, which are not good for living things.

Again the Danes have a decent solution: Everything not recyclable goes
into incinerators, producing heat for city heating or electricity
generation or greenhouse heating. The ashes tht are goind to the
landfill are a MUCH reduced volume. People worry about them containing
heavy metals, but honestly: If you bury the waste in a landfill, the
heavy metals are all there in that mess, too. Incineration decomposes
the plastics. Yes there may be some nasty fumes, but what can't be
scrubbed out of the smoke, can be released atop a tall smokestack so
that it disperses widely.

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#63913

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-07 10:22 +0000
Message-ID<vliv8b$25740$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63903
On 07/01/2025 01:17, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> There's still a
>    waste-disposal issue alas, what to do with stuff
>    that's super-deadly for 99,000 years.

Don't be silly, If its super deadly it wont be around 99,000 years., 
Mostly the super deadly is gone in a week


...and how long will lead, mercury, hexavalent chromium, cadmium, 
arsenic and beryllium last?

Forever mate, But you dont seem upset about those.


-- 
“People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, 
and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. 
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s 
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of 
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

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#63861

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 14:56 +0100
Message-ID<pkfq4lxa7o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#63787
On 2025-01-04 16:58, TJ wrote:
> On 2025-01-03 20:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/01/2025 18:37, -hh wrote:
>>> On 1/3/25 11:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 03/01/2025 16:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/01/2025 13:32, -hh wrote:

...

> I don't know much about sea level changes. I live about 250 miles from 
> the sea, so I don't have to deal with it. But that doesn't mean I can 
> deny the changes in the climate right here where I live.
> 
> I'm a farmer, the third generation of my family to own and operate this 
> small chunk of the world. Among other crops, we have raised vegetables 
> and sold them on a roadside farm stand since 1962. We have records going 
> back most of that time, with small notes about things like the weather.
> 
> 50 years ago, while there were exceptions (there are ALWAYS exceptions 
> when taking about weather trends), we could pretty much count on the 
> first killing frost happening between September 20 and the 25th.
> 
> The last 10 years or so, that event has moved to October 5-10. And in 
> 2024, the first killing frost was on October 25th.
> 
> So the climate IS changing. I've watched it do so. But is it natural, or 
> man-made? In my layman's opinion, it's probably both. The basic 
> mechanism is probably natural, augmented by Man's contribution.
> 
> But what can we do about it? Little of any significance, unless we are 
> willing to take drastic measures - kill off about half the human 
> population, give up modern power-hungry technology, that sort of thing.

Same way we changed it, we can change it back. We'll die if we don't.

> 
> I'm not willing to do that, and I don't think anyone else is, either. So 
> what I'll do is continue to take advantage of the changes that are 
> happening, adapting as best I can.
> 
> I can now grow fruits and vegetables that I couldn't dream of 50 years 
> ago. Better, long-season varieties that I couldn't grow when I was a 
> kid. For now, the climate is changing toward being better, here. That 
> won't last, but it'll probably last longer than I do.

You are fortunate. In my area, the climate has gone desert like and 
crops die because there is not enough water. The increased energy in the 
system means storms are stronger, even devastating. They often destroy 
crops.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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