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On 2025-09-21 16:09, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 20-09-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit : >> On 2025-09-20 14:39, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: ... >> >> Although DeepL is amazing. > > Yes but that's not magical. I can't translate in Spanish to see how good > it is because I wouldn't be able to understand the translation. My > knowledge of Spain is limited, it has been told (in French) by René > here: <http://rene.contreras.free.fr/caryboc/> and it should be easier > to translate. During this trip, I learned a few words, but just enough > to be polite, not enough to speak with someone. The translations from Spanish to English by DeepL are very good. The reverse are not that good. Other languages, I do not know. German to English is readable, the result makes sense, but I don't know if they are accurate. ~15 years ago German to English was horrible. ... >> >> I have an old collection of novels by Jules Verne in two big tomes, >> using the ink drawings of the originals. Sometimes there is a foot note >> by the translator explaining that there is an expression in French that >> he can not translate but it meant this or that. I think it is the only >> book where I have seen those foot notes. That is a high quality translation! > > I can see footnotes used in the same way in other books. But it's > different. A joke explained is never as funny as a joke understood. Certainly. Reading in the original language is the best experience, although one may still not understand some things because they are cultural. So a note by the translator is nice to have. Better than nothing. Means the translator was well paid, too. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-19 20:01 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-19 23:04 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 12:39 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:46 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:30 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:37 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 06:26 +0000
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:04 +0200
Tomato joke. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:24 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:09 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:36 +0000
Translations "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:00 +0200
Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:32 +0100
Re: Translations rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 01:16 +0000
Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:42 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:57 +0100
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-20 12:15 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 14:43 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:27 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:46 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 11:12 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:36 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:28 -0700
Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 19:05 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:41 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:32 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:00 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:28 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
"They" (was: Re: Floppies) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-21 23:12 +0000
Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 07:57 +0000
Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-22 09:31 +0100
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 08:47 -0700
Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-23 08:03 +0100
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:23 -0700
Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:37 +0100
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:44 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:34 +0000
Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:46 +0100
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:22 +0000
Re: "They" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0000
Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:21 +0000
Re: "They" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:00 +0200
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:19 -0700
Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 02:52 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:48 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 11:13 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:14 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:50 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:43 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:23 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:02 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-09-25 17:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:35 +0200
Re: Lingua franca rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:58 +0000
Re: Lingua franca The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:12 +0100
Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:09 +0200
Re: Lingua franca Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:07 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 13:35 +0000
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:16 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:22 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:54 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:24 +0000
Re: Floppies Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:11 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:28 +0200
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:17 +0200
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:56 +0100
Re: Floppies ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-23 15:21 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:35 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:39 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:05 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:37 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:53 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 18:14 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:19 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 00:28 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:23 +0000
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