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Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac

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On 01/13/2012 08:47 PM, Gene wrote:
> On Jan 14, 5:13 am, Peter Duniho<NpOeStPe...@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com>  wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:12:45 -0400, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>>> [...] It's been my experience for years (and I've used Java on Macs
>>> going back to when Java appeared) that Apple support for Java on Classic
>>> Mac and Mac OS X has been very good.
>>
>>> Granted I am not a Java GUI guy, I may have written half a dozen trivial
>>> AWT or Swing apps ever in over a decade, and most of them not on a Mac
>>> anyway, so there could be some cruftiness when it comes to that side of
>>> things, but overall Mac Java support is very good. IMO.
>>
>> My experience with Java and the Mac is not as extensive as yours, going
>> back only five years.  But I'd say that given that Apple's Java on the Mac
>> was still stuck at 1.5 when 1.7 was on the verge of release, there's
>> justification for considering Java on the Mac to be lagging.  Note also the
>> problem that on other platforms you can update to the latest Java easily,
>> while on the Mac (at least historically) the only way to get the latest
>> Java release was to buy the latest OS version as well.
>>
>> Maybe with the OpenJDK stuff, Java on the Mac will become less-proprietary,
>> more up-to-date, etc.  And I'd certainly agree that Java development on the
>> Mac is viable, even if the API lags behind the rest of the world.  But I'd
>> definitely not call Apple's support of Java on the Mac "very good".  I
>> wouldn't even call it close to that.
>
> It's something like a red herring to say Apple support for Java is
> this or that.  Certainly Microsoft provides less support under
> Windows.  Ditto for Linux.  Apple is unique in embracing Java at all.

Linux supports Java just fine, at least some distros.  OTOH, saying that 
"Linux supports <?>" is a bit of an oxymoron.

Regardless, here in Ubuntu you just "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and your Java 
is updated to the latest stable release for Ubuntu. It's hardly required to 
support it any more than that, since that's how Ubuntu supports literally 
everything it's meaningful to say it supports.

-- 
Lew
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Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 09:41 -0500
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-13 09:04 -0800
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 10:01 -0800
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 13:26 -0500
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 16:11 -0800
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 13:48 -0500
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 20:24 -0500
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-16 21:20 -0500
            Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-17 05:33 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-17 11:30 -0800
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:34 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:32 -0500
            Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-19 13:09 +0000
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-19 08:35 -0800
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:08 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:05 -0500
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-20 21:50 +0000
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-20 21:15 -0500
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2012-01-21 17:44 +0000
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-21 15:59 -0500
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-01-13 16:43 -0800
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 16:58 -0800
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:46 -0500
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-13 23:12 -0400
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 20:13 -0800
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Gene <gene.ressler@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 20:47 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 23:16 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 23:56 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-14 11:17 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:52 -0500
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-14 11:00 -0400
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-14 22:30 -0500
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:45 -0500
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-13 22:29 -0500

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