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Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac

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On 1/19/2012 8:09 AM, Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>
>> On 1/16/2012 8:24 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:11:30 -0500, Jim Gibson wrote
>>>> <http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=java+ide+for+mac+os+x&ie=UTF-8&oe
>>>>
>>>> =UTF-8>
>>>
>>>> One of those might get you started quickly. I haven't used any of them
>>>> under Mac OS, so can't recommend any in particular.
>>>
>>> It looks like Eclipse might fill the bill,
>>
>> I strongly suspect that NetBeans would work too.
>>
>>> I need to do some reading to
>>> figure out which version is appropriate - EE, Classic, etc.
>>
>> desktop apps => Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
>>
>> server apps => Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers
>
> Roughly. AIUI, the SQL support is in the EE edition, but not the
> standard edition. If you want to use SQL on the desktop, you might like
> to get the EE edition.

Support for writing SQL files may be a EE edition thing.

But that is not in my opinion a common thing to do for desktop app
development.

Plain JDBC with embedded SQL or an ORM for writing the code
and then creating the database structure in a database tool.

> The EE edition is basically the standard edition with more perspectives
> and views. I don't believe it alters anything that's in the standard
> edition. So, if you can spare the disk space, i would suggest getting
> the EE edition, so you have a pretty complete Java development
> environment, even if you don't use much of the EE bits. You never know,
> at some point, you might want to write a little web application.

True.

> Although, having said all that, i would suggest not starting with an
> IDE, or at least not one of any complexity. An editor with automatic
> indentation and syntax highlighting will do; TextWrangler is good, and
> actually, XCode is a pretty good Java editor, even if it is lacking as
> an IDE.

Or jEdit or UltraEdit or NotPad++ or NEdit or ... - there are
plenty of decent editors around.

I agree with the point that every new Java developer should learn
to develop using a standard editor and command line editor to learn
about classpath, jar files etc.etc..

Arne

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Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 09:41 -0500
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-13 09:04 -0800
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 10:01 -0800
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 13:26 -0500
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 16:11 -0800
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 13:48 -0500
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 20:24 -0500
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-16 21:20 -0500
            Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-17 05:33 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-17 11:30 -0800
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:34 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:32 -0500
            Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-19 13:09 +0000
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-19 08:35 -0800
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:08 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:05 -0500
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-20 21:50 +0000
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-20 21:15 -0500
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2012-01-21 17:44 +0000
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-21 15:59 -0500
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-01-13 16:43 -0800
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 16:58 -0800
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:46 -0500
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-13 23:12 -0400
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 20:13 -0800
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Gene <gene.ressler@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 20:47 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 23:16 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 23:56 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-14 11:17 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:52 -0500
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-14 11:00 -0400
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-14 22:30 -0500
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:45 -0500
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-13 22:29 -0500

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