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| From | "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac |
| Date | 2012-01-14 22:30 -0500 |
| Organization | The Wasteland |
| Message-ID | <nospam-4C5705.22301814012012@news.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <0001HW.CB35ACBC000174A4B038C9DF@news.panix.com> <130120121001312844%jimsgibson@gmail.com> <Oo6Qq.334$EZ6.162@newsfe22.iad> <1da9u3dnny5vt.1tgpf78ljfb0d$.dlg@40tude.net> <IMgQq.9$744.2@newsfe10.iad> |
In article <IMgQq.9$744.2@newsfe10.iad>, Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> wrote: [...] > It hasn't been just 1.5->1.6 that exhibited a delay, the other jumps > (1.3->1.4, 1.4->1.5) have been like that too. I believe that there is > a developer base that is relatively unconcerned about this (like me), > and that's server-side folks who see their product ultimately deploy > on Windows or Solaris or Linux against an older JVM from Sun (now > Oracle) or IBM or BEA (now Oracle). Not many "enterprise" clients > upgrade their infrastructure so quick either. Apple sometimes makes pre-release versions available to developers under the terms of a license that limits disclosures. > I have to acknowledge that Mac Java developers who want to write > consumer-type GUI software didn't pick the best platform for it. Supporting cross-platform Swing applications has improved my understanding of layouts and the UI delegate's role in calculating preferred size, among other things. > Although I personally believe that anyone who "needs" the latest Java > the day it comes out has misplaced priorities, it's not my place to > say, I'm not a writer of consumer GUI apps. So if such a person is > wedded to the Mac (for other good reasons) but needs the latest Java, > they'd best use a VM. And quite frankly a lot of professional > developers using Macs do use VMs anyway. I know I do. So it's a moot > point actually. Given that the VMs are so good it's a wonder that > Apple didn't throw in the towel for Java support a long time ago. Oracle's VirtualBox is a good example. [...] -- John B. Matthews trashgod at gmail dot com <http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>
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Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 09:41 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-13 09:04 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 10:01 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 13:26 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 16:11 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 13:48 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 20:24 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-16 21:20 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-17 05:33 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-17 11:30 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:34 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:32 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-19 13:09 +0000
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-19 08:35 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:08 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:05 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-20 21:50 +0000
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-20 21:15 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2012-01-21 17:44 +0000
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-21 15:59 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-01-13 16:43 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 16:58 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:46 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-13 23:12 -0400
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 20:13 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Gene <gene.ressler@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 20:47 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 23:16 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 23:56 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-14 11:17 -0800
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:52 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-14 11:00 -0400
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-14 22:30 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:45 -0500
Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-13 22:29 -0500
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