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Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac

From Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac
References <0001HW.CB35ACBC000174A4B038C9DF@news.panix.com> <130120121001312844%jimsgibson@gmail.com>
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Organization Public Usenet Newsgroup Access
Date 2012-01-13 23:12 -0400

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On 12-01-13 02:01 PM, Jim Gibson wrote:
> In article <0001HW.CB35ACBC000174A4B038C9DF@news.panix.com>, Wayne
> Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've been looking for a programming language to help me write tools to do 
>> stuff.  For example generate 2-D plots from CSV or text files.  C++ can do 
>> that (and more) but there's a lot more overhead and maintenance that that 
>> requires.  In the past I've used Tcl/Tk for that kind of task but that seems 
>> to be dying<sniff>, Excel with Visual Basic can do most of that but not so 
>> much on the Mac.
>>
>> I have a book "Core Jave" by Sun but I'm at a loss on how to start Java on my 
>> Mac.  Is there any help for this noob?
>>
> 
> Java will run on a Mac, but is not well supported.

I'm not advocating Java for the OP's requirements, but I think it's a
bit of a stretch to say that Java on Mac OS X isn't/hasn't been well
supported. I'm running 1.6.0_29 on my MacBook right now, and that came
out for Mac OS X only a few weeks after the update release for other
platforms. It's been my experience for years (and I've used Java on Macs
going back to when Java appeared) that Apple support for Java on Classic
Mac and Mac OS X has been very good.

Granted I am not a Java GUI guy, I may have written half a dozen trivial
AWT or Swing apps ever in over a decade, and most of them not on a Mac
anyway, so there could be some cruftiness when it comes to that side of
things, but overall Mac Java support is very good. IMO.

> Java is (or was)
> provided by Apple, but the version often lagged, and they have
> announced dropping support for Java. You will then depend upon Oracle
> or some other party providing a Mac version:
> 
> <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/12Oracle-and-Apple-Announce-Ope
> nJDK-Project-for-Mac-OS-X.html>

No, Apple is not dropping support for Java. Apple is contributing to
OpenJDK, AFAIK.

> Eclipse is available, so you might want to use that, although there
> will be a bit of a learning curve.
> 
> I use a combination of Perl and gnuplot to generate 2D plots from CSV
> or text files on a Mac. Since you are coming from Tcl/Tk, maybe picking
> up Perl wouldn't be too hard.
> 
Well, I used Perl intensively back in the early and mid-90's, and I
still have a pathological, masochistic fondness for it. I dunno as how
I'd nominate it as a first choice; Ruby support on Mac OS X is quite
good, and that's worth looking at.

AHS

-- 
...wherever the people are well informed they can be trusted with their
own government...
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1789

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Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 09:41 -0500
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-13 09:04 -0800
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 10:01 -0800
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-13 13:26 -0500
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 16:11 -0800
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 13:48 -0500
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-16 20:24 -0500
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-16 21:20 -0500
            Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Wayne Dernoncourt <wayned@panix.com> - 2012-01-17 05:33 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-17 11:30 -0800
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:34 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-17 17:32 -0500
            Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-19 13:09 +0000
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-19 08:35 -0800
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:08 -0500
              Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-19 19:05 -0500
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-01-20 21:50 +0000
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-20 21:15 -0500
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2012-01-21 17:44 +0000
                Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-21 15:59 -0500
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-01-13 16:43 -0800
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 16:58 -0800
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:46 -0500
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-13 23:12 -0400
      Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 20:13 -0800
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Gene <gene.ressler@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 20:47 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-01-13 23:16 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2012-01-13 23:56 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-01-14 11:17 -0800
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:52 -0500
        Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-14 11:00 -0400
          Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-14 22:30 -0500
    Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-01-14 22:45 -0500
  Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-01-13 22:29 -0500

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