Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions
Date	2015-12-13 05:17 +1100
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"keithr" <no-one@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message 
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> On 11/12/2015 8:53 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "keithr" <no-one@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:dcvmm8FhspU3@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 11/12/2015 1:28 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that is the only real situation in which
>>>>>>>>>>>> aldi is better, where you get no optus service.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What about the 360 day pre-paid expiry?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure, but I doubt too many actually need that.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've got an SMS modem attached to a Raspberry Pi,
>>>>>>>>> 15 bucks will probably last all year on that.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, that works much better on the Amaysim As You Go
>>>>>>>> as long as you do have Optus coverage. Much better
>>>>>>>> because it will do 4G when its available. Aldi wont.
>>>>
>>>>>>> If just sending short text SMS messages, I don't see that 4G
>>>>>>> would be much advantage. 3G isn't even much advantage.
>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, I meant for doing much more than just SMSs.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> The main situation where the aldi sim would be better
>>>>>>>> value is for a pure emergency phone in the car which
>>>>>>>> you only ever use if the car breaks. You may well go
>>>>>>>> for years never needing to use it and the better telstra
>>>>>>>> coverage would be worth having for that use.
>>>>
>>>>>>> That's me.
>>>>
>>>>>> Mad, it makes a lot more sense to have a better phone
>>>>>> that you can use to check the basics and ask google what
>>>>>> hours particular places keep, use google maps etc too.
>>>>>> Costs peanuts for each one of those often only 1c etc.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been on ALDI for this year, time to look
>>>>>>> at the options and see which is best value.
>>>>
>>>>>> Still Amaysim IMO unless the Optus system isn't that great
>>>>>> where you are. Particularly with 4G which Aldi lacks.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I do like the Telstra network,
>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing I like much about it is the better coverage
>>>>>> and more 4G currently, but Aldi doesn’t let you use that.
>>>>
>>>>>>> but it would be nice if Amaysim will allow the account
>>>>>>> to just "sit there" for years without use (and hance
>>>>>>> charge), then only bill me for the one time I use it.
>>>>
>>>>>> That is a bit unclear. The T&C says
>>>>
>>>>>>     4.10. Minimum spend
>>>>
>>>>>>     4.10.1. If you use the Post-paid Payment Option, the minimum
>>>>>>     per account spend amount is $5.00 per billing period. If your
>>>>>>     call usage is less than $5 in a given billing period, an
>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>     charge may be added to your account to bring the total to $5.00.
>>>>
>>>>>> But I have just rung Amaysim and she said that she had heard
>>>>>> of that but that as far as she knows they have never applied that
>>>>>> and that as long as there is some activity every 6 months it will
>>>>>> continue for as long as that activity continues. So at worst a
>>>>>> 12c SMS or call ever 6 months is much cheaper than Aldi.
>>>>
>>>>>> At best maybe even a call to your own home number
>>>>>> that is never answered might well cost you nothing at all.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Admittedly I'd probably still go with ALDI for the Telstra
>>>>>>> network, but I like to know my options. I can't see anything
>>>>>>> about post-paid expiry times in the terms and conditions,
>>>>>>> I'll have a better look later.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dunno how many dinosaurs still use their phone
>>>>>>>> like that now tho. Mad IMO, makes a lot more
>>>>>>>> sense to use the phone for GPS as well and so
>>>>>>>> you wont be using no data at all for years.
>>>>
>>>>>>> If I do the same as last year, I'll be buying a new ALDI
>>>>>>> SIM card for $5 and keeping the $5 included credit for
>>>>>>> the year. I'm not interested in going to much trouble to
>>>>>>> better utilise that money. GPS should be free anyway.
>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn’t cost much to get the better stuff like traffic congestion.
>>>>
>>>>> With my Garmin GPS traffic congestion information costs nothing
>>>>
>>>> Same with google maps.
>>
>>> No data charges?
>>
>> Not when you stay within the data allowance on the plan.
>>
>>>>> and it will route you around it if possible.
>>>>
>>>> Same with google maps and it keeps telling you that
>>>> you are still on the fastest route if that isn't possible.
>>>>
>>>> And there is no way that I am going to cart around
>>>> anything but a phone now with the phones so capable.
>>>> The iphone GPS is a lot more sensitive that the TomTom
>>>> and the Garmin in difficult areas too.
>>>>
>>>> Main thing google maps still doesn’t do is individual
>>>> lane directions in the turn by turn instructions and it
>>>> doesn’t have the current speed limit on the screen
>>>> at all times which can be handy with the much too
>>>> frequent speed limit changes that are still a real pain
>>>> in the arse at times.
>>>>
>>>> No way I am going to pay anything like $100 for
>>>> that stuff as you have to for the GPS apps from
>>>> those traditional GPS systems on your phone.
>>>>
>>>> There is likely a free one that does add lane
>>>> advisorys to the turn by turn that you can use
>>>> in specific situation like the run up South
>>>> Cross Drive etc coming into the Eastern
>>>> Distributor. Just haven't looked for that yet.
>>
>>> I have to go into Brisbane tomorrow,I'll try the Nexus with Google
>>> maps alongside the Garmin GPS.
>>
>> Pity about the difference in the cost.
>> No cost at all with google maps.
>
> Other than the cost to your data allowance of course.

Doesn’t necessarily cost anything anymore with the
cheapest operations using the data allowance as
one of the things to attract new customers with.

The data usage of google maps is low enough that
it doesn’t exceed even the lower data allowances.

And even if you pay for the data at the casual
rate of 7.5c/MB, that is a trivial part of what
you are spending on petrol alone for that trip.

It’s a bit hard to see exactly what the long run in
from Goulburn to Central actually cost me at the
casual data rate of 7.5c/MB because I did quite
a bit of manual browsing just after I had missed
the train but the total cost of all the data I used
between 04:00 and 08:00 was a grand total of
just $2.33 for all that data at the most expensive
cost of data. The train left at 07:35 so quite a bit
of that would have been for the manual browsing
I was doing with the phone on the charger in the
TAFE lobby which has power points and USB
down the divider between the bench seats.

Even if google maps did use $2 of data in the long
run in from Goulbourn to Central with google maps
running all that time because we were clearly cutting
it very fine time wise and I wanted to ensure no false
moves at all that would waste any time, that is a trivial
part of the cost of petrol over that bit of the trip.

And peanuts in the cost of a Garmin GPS or the absolutely
stupid $100 cost of their app on a smartphone.

>> And it has lane advisorys in 23 countrys right now.

>> On both android and iOS, showed
>> up at the same time with both too.

>> Identical app in fact.

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