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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>> The fucked thing about the $2.50 ticket is that
>>>>>> you have to pay $11 to get off the train at the
>>>>>> airports but they didn't say anything about that
>>>>>> when I asked the railway ape at central how I
>>>>>> used it to get to the airport. He just said platform
>>>>>> 23 and pointed in the general direction of how
>>>>>> to get to platform 23.

>>>>>> The Opal system looks interesting. Pity you
>>>>>> can't just wave your phone at the posts tho.

>>>>> Seniors Card

>>>>> will get you a $2.50 all day "city Rail/Bus" pass in around Sydney

>>>> Yeah, that's what I got but for some reason he didn't ask
>>>> to see the seniors card. I don't actually look like I qualify for
>>>> one even tho I have done for a long time now, a full decade.

>>>> Shit these govt web sites are fucked. Fancy looking but very
>>>> hard to find the most obvious fucking information on them.
>>>> Went to this one to check the age to qualify and it doesn't
>>>> even mention that on the main page at all.

>>> https://www.opal.com.au/

>> I meant that the Senior's Card web site doesn't even mention
>> on the main page what age you need to be to qualify for one.

> From memory 60 years or older,

Yeah, its all spelt out on the About page. I just meant that
that should be a lot more clearly spelt out on the home page,
at least one graphic that shows you who qualifys for one etc.

> work 20 hours a week or less. or not working at all.
> http://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/apply-nsw-seniors-card
> you get discounts often not advertised so always ask. Star City has
> excellent restaurants and asked the Buffet charge went down fro
> $50 to $20. This applies to everything travel car rental hotel, etc

Yeah, had once since I qualified. Haven't used it a hell of a lot,
mainly for the 5% discount you get for spending more than
$30 at IGA on Thursday, used to be Tuesday and Thursday.

Save the kids quite a bit on the most
recent train trip coming back from sydney.

I normally fly and it doesn't help with that.

Haven't gotten around to getting off my arse and
getting the health care card which would save me
a hell of a lot more, free car rego, free drivers license,
much cheaper scripts, saving on power and rates etc.

Just can't be bothered to do the paperwork.

Stupid, that would save me about $1K a year.

>>>>> It will also get you a Opal Card but it has
>>>>> to be POSTED to you and takes a few days

>>>> OK, didn't realise that. I assumed that would
>>>> be so for me but assumed it wasn't true for
>>>> those in Sydney. I had just checked that web
>>>> site for the youngest turk who is about to
>>>> visit the relos in Sydney over summer and
>>>> for me because the light rail stops are all
>>>> plastered with big signs saying that the
>>>> paper tickets stop on 1-Jan next year.
>>>> That doesn't get a mention except at
>>>> the deepest level either.

>>> Seems when I get on the bus a number are
>>> trying to get a OPAL now before Jan 1st

>> Didn't use any buses at all this time,
>> just the light rail quite a few times
>> and the normal train a few times,
>> to the airport and back.

> Should of gone to Star City by Tram

Yeah, didn't even think of that at all.

The PowerHouse Museum was very disappointing,
I kept thinking that all their static displays weren't
a patch on a well done doco on the subject etc.

> Get a "members card", costs nothing but
> allows free lunch or did when I went there

I don't actually bother with lunch, got out of the
habit 40 years ago now. Ate an apple I had in
the bag waiting for the phone to charge at TAFE.
and then had the pub beer and steak for $12 at
the haymarket pub in the evening.

> Also impressive views of Sydney

Yeah, I was in St Vincents for a coupla
weeks on the town side, closest bed to
the windows. Very impressive views.

>>>>> Max charge is $2.50 a day

>>>> And completely automatic selection of the $1.50
>>>> if that ends up cheaper for the day too, well done.

>>>> Might as well get one now since its free,
>>>> more convenient to have it since those buggers
>>>> change their minds all the time at the last minute.

>>> Mostly I go to local shopping centre 9.30 bus do
>>> shopping get on 10.30 bus back and it's a $1.10 return

>>>> The mate they were staying with said to him
>>>> 'so what's the latest, you haven't changed your
>>>> mind for at least half an hour' |-(

>>>>> top up at stations

>>>> I'd use the auto topup myself or do it online manually.

>>> I use the auto but out of town manually might be best

>> Wouldn't auto be better in case the phone dies, gets
>> stolen or the battery goes flat and I still haven't gotten
>> around to working out what the best power pack is yet ?

> Depends how often you come to Sydney $10 gives you 4 days at $2.50 a
> day and the minimum um you pay, top ups can be made at any station.

Sure, but automatic topups don't require me to do anything at
all and work fine even if the phone dies or gets left behind etc.

>>>> I did the booking online and only used the monkey behind the
>>>> counter to move the booking to next day once I had missed it.
>>>> He told me he wasn't allowed to let me charge my phone.
>>>> Managed to forget to check if the country waiting room on
>>>> platform 1 has power points you can use, I'd be surprised if
>>>> they don't for shavers etc.

>>> You found near the University bus bench's had recharging free?

>> No I didn't. I only found out about the TAFE free recharging by
>> asking someone in the tunnel heading up that direction after
>> leaving Central Station after the stupid monkey had told me
>> that they weren't allowed to let me use a power point and
>> pointed me to the thing next to the row of vending machines
>> in the grand concourse. Didn't think to check the country
>> waiting room. He did tell me that I was welcome to camp
>> there overnight if I wanted to.

> Yes CityRail need to fuck off all their staff none are any good,

Yeah, usual union bludgers most of them.

I later saw the sign saying that you weren't allowed to
close the curtains in the day sitter/sleeper during the day.
I didn't notice that one of the monkeys did perve in one
time but didn't say anything about that. I couldn't sleep
anyway, I just don't go to sleep much in those situations,
which is very handy when driving but not great when
someone else is driving the train etc.

> particularly the top end shiny arses

>>> Apple store does for Iphones only George Street Sydney

>> Didn't think of that. Was going to have a look at that
>> one and then managed to forget about it completely.

> Microsoft ones in Pitt Street

Didn't even think to look for that one.

I did look up the Apple one and then forgot about it.

>>> Libraries do?

>> OK. Ours has free wifi too.

> They also have free Internet but timed ours is 15 minutes at Campbelltown

Never actually used ours. They don't have hordes of backpackers
showing up to use ours and we get lots of those as pickers. Maybe
there is some similar limit here. We don't have any net cafés here.

>>> Platform 1, Waiting room Central also have "charge bars"
>>> https://www.chargebar.com.au/locations/

>> That doesn't look anything like the one inside Central Station.
>> It appears to be a very crude system of little boxes you put
>> your phone in and some bugger comes around, takes the
>> phones away, charges them and puts them back in the boxes
>> later. Fuck that, real dinosaur stuff. Not cheap either.

> Platform one is where Indian pacific (etc) start/arrive interstate

One female monkeys I asked about checkin etc said that
the XPT to Melburg which is the one I use would leave
from there or 4. Turned out to leave from 3 which explains
why it isn't listed on the ticket even if the seat is. Presumably
they change platforms around depending on what trains
break or are running late etc.

>>>>> Also 4 free country train trips to anywhere NSW and Victoria

>>>> Yeah, main problem is that its country only and I
>>>> normally want to go to sydney, not country stations.

>>>> And its only $2.50 for more than the free ones too.

>>> So it's $2.50 to go to Sydney from your place?

>> No, to any country town. Closest to Sydney is Lithgow
>> etc from memory. And you can't go to somewhere like
>> say Port Macquarie and just leave the train as it goes thru
>> Central either, they're not stupid enough to allow that.

> Yeah from Sydney I think it gosford, newcastle, lithgow maybe?

None of those qualify, the closest you can get is Goulburn.
http://www.nswtrainlink.info/book/concessions/pensioners

Another reason to get off my arse and do the paperwork
for the centerlink card, they don't have that restriction at all.

>>>>> The Airport stations are private and charge $11 to
>>>>> go through the barrier International and Domestic.

>>>> Yeah, I do vaguely remember some mention
>>>> of that stuff when they were being built.

>>> Not now but Green Square and Moscot stayion did also.

>> Dunno. I initially went to the international station and when
>> they tried to slug me $11 there, came back to the domestic
>> station, the one before the international one, and they still
>> wanted to slug me to get off there too. Maybe you mean the
>> one before that, what they call Mascot Suburb or something.

> The $11 dollars is far cheaper than parking or cab and trains are 15
> minute intervals

Sure. I was just hoping it would be free on the $2.50 day trip card.

>>> Not mow though.

>>>>> platform 23 (free WiFi) is usually the Airport line from Central

>>>> Didn't check how far it went but the wifi worked fine
>>>> in the 'grand concourse' upstairs in the Platform 1-4
>>>> area and on the XPT itself at Platform 3.

>>>> Platform 23 would be more useful when charging
>>>> around sydney tho I spose, bit easier to get to.

>>> Hungry Jacks had good free WiFi but caught fire
>>> knocking them and pub out for repair still out.

>> OK, did notice that when I walked past it.

> taking their time fixing it?
> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/central-station-evacuated-after-fire-20150926-gjvmkw.html

Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>> Used to buy a crispy chicken burger with double mustard
>>> and buy a beer and connect mobile to Internet

>> Didn't think to try the Haymarket pub when I had dinner
>> and coupla beers there. Was reading a Kindle book instead.

> Dickson Street Pub.
> So far recharging not a problem for me the samsung battery lasts well

Yeah, didn't have any real problem with the battery
except when running google maps in turn by turn mode.

Haven't had a chance to check if that was because we looking
at the time to get there all the time when running late and if
that wouldn't be a problem with the screen blanked or not.

> and if I have to can carry a second battery.

That is one real downside with iphones and the latest Galaxys too.

Easily fixed with a power pack tho.

> Can't get at the Windows phone battery though,
> but it has a long battery life between charges

I can run it well down in a garage sale run
and when running google maps for hours.

>>> Never needed to recharge but
>>> Central Platform 1, Waiting room has chargers

>> OK, that must be the country waiting room I was talking about
>> before, halfway down Platform 1 with orange decent chairs inside.

>> The ticketing monkey clearly doesn't know about that.
>> Not surprising I spose they can't know everything.
>> I didn't think to ask again at the main Traffic Info
>> thing or whatever its called in the grand concourse.

> Can't stand anyone who don't know everything about their product

Yeah, complete pain in the arse.

I've even had some of the kids working in BigW etc
that know me ask me to answer a customer's question.

> Car salesmen computer everyone
> Good to be flameproof and can't be fired!

Yeah. Tho the induction turned up that the person he is
replacing couldn't be bothered doing the govt paperwork
and had monstered the manager into doing that for him
and the new manager sacked him for that. But got him
to spell out to his replacement how to do the paperwork.

Going to be interesting to see how that pans out.

These are job seekers who get individual 'skills'
improvement plans and the 'trainers' end up
with a room full of those, all with quite different
improvement plans and have to work out how
to teach all those who have quite different plans.

Unsurprisingly the turnover rate is pretty dramatic.

>>>>> <http://bit.ly/1Y0rHDX.
>>>>> Tells me rocket ship driving one way to Sydney is "6.1 minute"
>>>>> So allow 7.5 hours

>>>> I added an hour to the 6 hours google predicted and should
>>>> have added 2 hours. I don't normally stop to eat etc, just for
>>>> the one fill of petrol but that would be more too.

>>>>> Assuming you came down South Downing Street

>>>> Yeah, that's the way we came,

>> Hell of an improvement on the last time I came in from by car.

>> Must have been back in the late 70s tho,
>> I normally flew in with work paying.

> South Downing Street has become a expressway,
> but can choke up for no reason?

Yeah, tho it wasn't too bad when we zoomed down it.
But that was after 07:00, it would presumably be much
worse later. There was quite a bit of the time with no
real progress much further out. Forget exactly where,
I was just doing what I was told by the GPS.

>>>> signs were a bit short
>>>> when you've never been there before and the lack
>>>> of lane voice directions is one major downside with
>>>> google maps. Be interesting to try the free alternatives
>>>> on that. But that's one major downside with Lumias,
>>>> much less to try than androids and iOS on that. And
>>>> just what the kids need being so new to Sydney driving.

>>>> He can't have been too fazed tho because he drove in
>>>> from Ryde on monday evening to try to catch up with
>>>> me in person and then ran into the problem with where
>>>> to park etc. He should have got the train in instead.
>>>> Easy with 20:20 hindsight again.

>>>>> (get off AFTER tunnel DON'T MISS or next stop over harbour bridge)

>>>> Yeah, that's what I meant with how I fluked
>>>> it with the ED ONLY lane coming in.

>>> Yeah miss that then it's hours to get back!

>> Yeah, that's what I meant.

>>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/GET%20OFF%20Freeway.png>
>>>>> Then head to Eddy Avenue
>>>>> Turn left Fitzroy which becomes Foveau Turn Left (complicated) for
>>>>> Eddy Avenue, But simpler to turn left at Hay Street. Left again at
>>>>> Pitt Street then you drive to "railway Square, where there is a turn
>>>>> off for quick parking at Central (2 hours I think?)
>>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/EDDY%20AVENUE.png>

>>>> Yeah, that's the other thing I stuffed up I should have gone to
>>>> Ryde where they are currently staying with relos till they find
>>>> their own place to rent and got the train in to Central to come
>>>> home. Tho that would have added an extra couple of hours.

>>>> Not clear exactly where he will be working, induction
>>>> is today. Guess renting somewhere with decent public
>>>> transport access to there would make sense.

>>>> What's the rental market like there now ?  At one time
>>>> it was horrendous but I haven't heard much about that
>>>> lately, so presumably its not as bad as it used to be.
>>>> The relos will know anyway, they were the ones that
>>>> talked him into working there. He was looking around
>>>> on the net as we drove in, not much for much less than
>>>> $400/week. He was renting a granny flat at the back of
>>>> a mate's place that I put him onto here before they
>>>> headed back to China for a year or so with the midget.
>>>> Only paid $170pw for that tho the mate has hiked that
>>>> to $190 for the islanders currently renting it.

>>> check rental here
>>> http://www.rent.com.au/properties/ryde-nsw-2112?gclid=CMft6av9zckCFdhivAodwNEIag

>> I didn't mean that, he was checking that stuff on his
>> phone as we were between Goulburn and Sydney,

>> I had seen some storys about the rental market
>> being so tight that people were doing stuff like
>> waving around a bundle of notes for 6 months
>> rent in advance to get a place with the market
>> so tight. Forget when that was tho.

> Maybe a colleague organized to rent a apartment and
> was "gazumped" by someone else without warning (he
> thought it a "done deal" and had to start looking again

They have found a granny flat just around the corner from
the relos they are currently staying with. Lots of people
looking at it apparently. Be interesting to see if they get it.

Not my idea of an ideal location, Ryde to Parramatta
twice daily isn't my idea of a great commute.

Better than the worst dregs of Parramatta to live in tho.

>>> probably best to share till he (one person?) finds there way around.

>> Nar, there's 3 of them, him, his chinese wife and
>> the new midget, just coming up to 2 years old.

> Around $2000 to move in and $500 a week for a piano crate

The granny flat is just a shade under $400 and
quite decent apparently. Certainly explains lots
of people looking at it. Don't like their chances.

>>> Induction means he has a job so best of luck to him

>> Yeah, teaching english to non english speakers.
>> That's what he was doing in china before he married
>> his wife there. Did that for 5 years or something.
>> He's the one who had the skype problems in china.

> Good flameproof job

Dunno, it looks rather like the govt paperwork is a
complete pain in the arse. Even one of the partners
is happy to admit its about the govt paperwork
much more than any real teaching.

> as long as he don't have to work with parents

These appear to be all adult job seekers
with fuck all in the way of much english
tho he hasn't seen any of them yet, just
the other staff and managers.

> and the students are "selective" (want to learn) as aposed to
> non-selective (school has second language as compusory)

>>> Thought you said they were Chinese

>> Only his wife is chinese, he's a local. His dad's
>> been a mate of mine since the early 70s when
>> he was in high school.

> Shoud be fine depends what suburb he
> is working as to what rent he will pay.

Yeah, doesn't look great in that respect, at
least twice the rent they would be paying here.
But fuck all in the way of job prospects here.

His wife is getting qualified as an accountant so once
that happens it would would quite well back here.
He does teach some back in china online as well
so he can stay home and herd the midget and she
can be the main income earner and he can do the
online teaching too. That mostly happens in the
late evening when the midget is long gone to bed.

> to buy even in Campbelltown a houses minnimum is $500K

Yeah, they don't plan to buy anywhere near there.

They plan to buy back here.

> House next to me 5 bedroom got a million
> https://www.homehero.com.au
> this site gives what the bank (Westpac) will lend
> on a property (not it's valuation/real price)
> You have to give a working email to use but good
> to let you know what properties nearbuy sold for

Yeah, property prices are mad.

Another mate of mine has just sold a very decent place
across the street from me for in the high $200Ks to move
to Canberra where one of their kids and grandkids are now.

>>> not Turks?

>>Those are a different group. The youngest, 14 or
>>something, will be going to sydney when school
>>gets out, by himself from memory. He's already
>>been there a few times by train with his parents.
>>They show up at his sisters in Sydney.

> ok

Turns out he turns 14 in a couple of weeks
and has done it by himself before already.

Not exactly the typical teenager.

Easy enough to do tho, there is a direct train
on the Saturday he is going, no train/bus swap
in Cootamundra or Wagga as there is for all
except the Saturday run. Even the bus train
swap is no biggy, the busses line up outside
the train station at least in Coota and all you
have to do is get on the right one. And the
driver checks you off so if you fuck that up its
only a problem if you don't get on the right
one until after it has left.
 

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                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 22:05 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2015-12-08 05:03 +0800
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 07:30 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-12-07 20:41 +0000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2015-12-08 05:31 +0800
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:04 +1100
              Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 19:46 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2015-12-08 21:37 +1000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-08 23:59 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:52 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:36 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-12-08 22:37 +0000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:55 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-12-09 01:08 +0000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2015-12-10 21:14 +1000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 22:33 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 02:49 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 12:59 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 14:00 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 02:28 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2015-12-11 20:26 +1000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 21:53 +1100
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2015-12-12 21:14 +1000
                Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 05:17 +1100
  Re: Mobile Phone Suggestions pedro <me@privacy.net> - 2015-12-05 14:27 +0800

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