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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal |
| Date | 2025-01-06 17:32 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vlhlla$1r5qh$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Mon, 1/6/2025 12:49 PM, Graham J wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On Mon, 1/6/2025 5:55 AM, Graham J wrote:
>>> wasbit wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How widespread is reliable internet connectivity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it fair to assume that everybody has a computer and can use it competently?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Internet connectivity has to be split into that provided by a land line, 4G, 5G etc & satellite plus whatever other methods of connection there are.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Only people who read this newsgroup understand the difference between these provisions. The rest of the population hasn't a clue.
>>>
>>> Their view is that if they can get "the internet" reliably wherever they are, it's good enough. So for considerable areas in the UK (mainly rural) it certainly isn't adequate. Which becomes a serious issue if the only way to communicate with officialdom is via the internet.
>>>
>>
>> The government in one area of my country, put a program in place
>> to improve Internet service for extreme rural citizens. Some
>> of this was done with WISP setups (microwave link). One antenna
>> being able to service multiple recipients.
>>
>> The plan was expected to take around ten years to burn up all the
>> available money for it. It does not "guarantee" that each woodland
>> creature gets the Internetz, but it does attempt to better connect
>> small pockets of people. The regular ISPs and major companies, have
>> rules about the density of people they are willing to cover with
>> service.
>>
>> My sister is on a WISP, at latitude 56 degrees, and the WISP does
>> not come from a major ISP, it comes from "some guy in town who
>> set up his own ISP". That's how you do things in a small town :-)
>> I presume this means there is a fiber trunk running up the
>> highway, and that's how the trunking is done to make that possible.
>> Then WISP from a building in town, into the woods.
>>
>> Citizens know they have to ask questions about their utilities.
>> Where is my water coming from ? Where is my electricity coming from ?
>> How will I heat my house ? And, what Internet sources are available ?
>> Those are utility questions, and most citizens have been challenged
>> (had someone ask them questions in the past), so they now know they
>> should have answers at the ready. Utility bills are sometimes
>> used to augment an identity check ("I have been living at this
>> address since 1956", shows man the bill for the telephone from 1956).
>> That's why you don't throw out all the paper bills.
>
>
> This is Canada - yes?
>
> Is it fair to say that in rural areas citizens must make their own arrangements for water, electricity, and heating? That there's no nationally provided service? What about roads?
>
For some reason, there is a potable water certificate. If
this is rural and you are on well water, you get the well
water tested for heavy metals. There would also be a coliform
count, which is a proxy for bacterial activity. If E.Coli can be
detected, chances are other species are present and the
water is not safe.
I worked in a lab, a multidisciplinary lab, and one room had
the AAS machine and a guy who would run 30 heavy metal assays
a day. And another room, had Mike, our microbiology guy, and
he would streak plates. And maybe that was our E.coli. Mike was
a wee bit antisocial, so the opportunity to ask questions about
his lab were quite limited. You couldn't go in there. And
one day as it happened, for good reason.
I'm not sure you can live in a house that has no water at all.
It's the same for houses that are no longer habitable, and
a professional can attest to that fact.
My sister trucks her water in. The family owns their own water
truck. They don't even phone someone else to haul water for them.
This is necessary, because the well runs dry regularly,
But in a city at least, if you are registering a deed of sale,
chances are a potable water certificate is part of it. There is an
indication there, that the government does not want properties
to change hands, where the previous owner was dishonest about
the water status, and the new owner is left "high and dry".
It's a kind of public health issue, as someone living without
water, is likely to end up disease-ridden (cholera, dysentery,
and so on).
Paul
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Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 10:41 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:49 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 21:54 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-06 09:35 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 10:55 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 10:05 -0500
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 17:49 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 17:32 -0500
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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 21:44 -0500
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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-07 16:09 +0200
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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 18:33 +0000
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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:11 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 08:55 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 14:00 +0000
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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:14 -0500
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 18:09 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-07 15:08 -0500
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 07:45 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 08:25 +0000
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 21:54 +1100
Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:20 +0000
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