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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal
Date	2025-01-07 11:14 -0500
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On Tue, 1/7/2025 10:16 AM, Graham J wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> 
> [snip]
>>>
>>> It follows that the cash drawer contains money from different sources,
>>> and for different reasons.  So a proper reconciliation at the end of
>>> each trading period is vital.  This was one of the areas where the lack
>>> of an audit trail available to the SPM (and in some cases to PO
>>> investigators themselves) led to wrongful prosecutions.
>>
>> OK. If that's the case then I'm sure they'll have a good solution given
>> it's an important service for the PO :-^)
>>
> 
> I very much doubt it.  Even the current PO management has no understanding of how unreliable the current Horizon system is, and the development programme for its replacement appears to be stalled.
> 
> My contention is that this in itself renders the PO in its existing form unsustainable, so it would be better to close it completely.  Its banking facility is the only loss to society, so it may be that we all become much greater users of cash.
> 

The reason Post Offices must "stay the course", is they need income, badly.
You can't chuck away anything that makes money. You could for
example, have a lemonade stand at the PO, just so they can make
a bit of cash on the side.

If they stop doing things, just handling letter mail is never going to
work. I stand by my contention, that a letter that costs $1 today to
mail, is going to cost $40 ten years from now, simply because the PO
won't be around to deliver it. It will fail, as a business enterprise,
and some courier using Uber drivers will deliver your hamburger and
that Christmas card.

Some things in society, are going out of touch. Too expensive.
Public transit for one. Letter mail and even parcel mail for another.
The parcel mail here, is every bit as expensive as a courier would be,
and I just don't like the optics of the trend. It can't get cheaper,
and the Post Offices can't open up enough Lemonade Stands to compensate
for their operating costs. Perhaps they can offer shoe shines.
Or re-sole your shoes for you.

I was reading an article from an "expert" in rescuing the PO the other
day, and the laundry list of Lemonade Stand ideas, has all been tried.
The Expert in fact, is "out of bullets". The gentleman has no viable
plan for saving our PO. Even re-soling a shoe won't be enough.
Or offering pepperoni pizza slices hot from the oven.

   Paul

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Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 10:41 +0000
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:49 +0000
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 21:54 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-06 09:35 +0000
        Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 10:55 +0000
          Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 10:05 -0500
            Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 17:49 +0000
              Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 17:32 -0500
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-16 23:52 +1100
          Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:01 +0000
            Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 08:45 +0000
              Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 13:57 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:14 +0000
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-05 15:42 -0500
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 21:57 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-05 17:22 -0500
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-26 08:42 -0500
        Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-26 14:45 +0000
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 22:10 +0100
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-06 01:46 +0200
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 21:44 -0500
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 08:28 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-07 16:09 +0200
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 07:37 +0000
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 08:33 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 18:33 +0000
        Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 19:06 +0000
          Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:11 +0000
            Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 08:55 +0000
              Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 14:00 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 15:16 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:14 -0500
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 18:09 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-07 15:08 -0500
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 07:45 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 08:25 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 21:54 +1100
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:20 +0000

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