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Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal
Date	2025-01-05 21:44 -0500
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On Sun, 1/5/2025 6:46 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 10:41:17 +0000, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> What happens in other countries?  Is there an equivalent to the PO?  Is 
>> banking easily available to the whole population?  How does the average 
>> citizen interact with government?
> 
> In South Africa the post office was similar to the UK until about
> 1987, when under the influence of the then fashionable Thatcherist
> neoliberalism it stopped being a government department under the
> Minister of Posts and Telecommunications and the Postmaster General,
> and was run like a business, and became a State-Owned Enterprise
> (SOE). Or, rather, it was split into two -- the Post Office and
> Telkom. 
> 
> That was a death senrtence for the Post Office, as its
> telecommunications branch had been far more lucrative than its postal
> business, and it has gone downhill everf since, and is now bankrupt
> and almost defunct. There are several provately-owned courier
> services, which are, howeever excessively expensive, and virtually
> useless for people living in remotrer rural areas or even in many
> small towns far from major centres,
> 
> Nearly all the post offices in our immediate vicinity have closed. We
> used to rent a post office box, but gave it up last year, because it
> just wasn't worth it. 

Our post office here, in Canada, is financially in bad shape,
and sooner or later, something will happen to it :-) If you were
to ask me what it would cost to deliver a letter, ten years from
now, my guess would be $40, instead of $1. It would be
forty times as expensive as it is now. You won't be sending
Christmas Cards any more.

After the postal strike, my bills still aren't synchronized and
I checked my credit card balance by phone yesterday, to ensure
there are no interest payments involved.

Yes, civilization does run backwards. Public transit is
expensive, the system is bankrupt, and it has failed in small
cities elsewhere. When I was a kid, a ride on the bus wasn't
that much, and I could take swim lessons and travel on the
bus by myself. What's weird is, they can spend money on the
most stupid things, that do not deliver service, while
the buses rust and fall apart. Just about all the buses, the
suspension is shot, from riding over potholes in the road
all day long.

If you are rich ? You won't even notice these things :-)

   Paul

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Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 10:41 +0000
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:49 +0000
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 21:54 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-06 09:35 +0000
        Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 10:55 +0000
          Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 10:05 -0500
            Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 17:49 +0000
              Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-06 17:32 -0500
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-16 23:52 +1100
          Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:01 +0000
            Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 08:45 +0000
              Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 13:57 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:14 +0000
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-05 15:42 -0500
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 21:57 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-05 17:22 -0500
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-26 08:42 -0500
        Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-26 14:45 +0000
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 22:10 +0100
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-06 01:46 +0200
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 21:44 -0500
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 08:28 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-07 16:09 +0200
  Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 07:37 +0000
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 08:33 +0000
      Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 18:33 +0000
        Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-06 19:06 +0000
          Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:11 +0000
            Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 08:55 +0000
              Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 14:00 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 15:16 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:14 -0500
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-01-07 18:09 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-07 15:08 -0500
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 07:45 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 08:25 +0000
                Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 21:54 +1100
    Re: Very OT: UK Post Office and the Horizon Scandal Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-07 16:20 +0000

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