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Re: Who Knows Hardware?

From RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Who Knows Hardware?
Date 2024-12-18 11:47 +0000
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On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-17 à 16:27, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-17 à 03:34, RonB a écrit :
>>>> On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:56, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 11:34, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-14, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> they like to use advanced functionality like
>>>>>>>>>> hardware encryption. The latter simply doesn't work under Linux.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When Windows has the advantage, you tout such concerns as important.
>>>>>>>>> But they are not, to most users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many users don't use much software but a Web browser.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OTOH, you disregard the Linux privacy advantage as not important to
>>>>>>>>> most users.  That's not fair or consistent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As always in this FUBAR market, Linux serves, very well, those for
>>>>>>>>> whom the mainstream options are inadequate.  Many more would be better
>>>>>>>>> off with Linux, but simply don't know it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linux has not only been "adequate" but superior for me for 18 years. I think
>>>>>>>> what "Crude" means is that Linux is not as good as Windows for playing games
>>>>>>>> that are made FOR Windows. (Like that's a huge surprise.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I'll make it clearer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Linux is worse for laptop battery life.
>>>>>>> 2) Linux doesn't support hardware encryption on OPAL drives (resulting
>>>>>>> in a terrible performance hit if you decide to encrypt).
>>>>>>> 3) Linux's update system is superior as long as there is no long delay
>>>>>>> between updates, but can break things otherwise because they always
>>>>>>> overwrite whereas Windows's big updates install the operating system
>>>>>>> anew preserving settings and applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Response to 1) — not in my experience. I use Intel GPUs, so maybe that makes
>>>>>> a difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> For power consumption, Intel is generally better than AMD on battery.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I'll take your word for that. I've never (personally) had a laptop
>>>> that used an AMD CPU. I think my wife had one HP laptop that did — it was a
>>>> piece of crap. I think HP makes good business machines, but their consumer
>>>> laptops (and desktops) seem to be crap to me. I guess that can be said for
>>>> Dell also. I've used Dell's business machines for a long time now.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't buy a consumer-grade HP laptop considering how poor HP's
>>> motherboards seem to be. There is no end to negative reviews of their
>>> hardware and I know for a fact that the laptops my wife's company
>>> supplies to its employees are HP and they often bend from the heat.
>> 
>> I'll take your word for it on HP. My brother used to like them, but I think
>> he's been moving to Dell lately. (He's a Windows programmer who works from
>> home and he was complaining about something in his older HPs.)
>
> I only have an HP printer and these are the bastards who try to get you 
> to sign up for a monthly fee for ink or toner refills with them. It 
> sounds good until you find out that your printer is disabled because the 
> payment didn't go through. 
><https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/HP-Instant-Ink/Do-you-know-that-HP-will-disable-your-printer-when-you-stop/td-p/8587102>

I don't like that kind of crap either. I think I might have mentioned this 
but my wife bought an Epson ink jet printer (one of the tank ones) and was 
(is) happy with its print quality. But a couple (maybe three, maybe four? 
maybe five?) months ago it quit printing. Some bogus error. I looked it up 
and found that there was nothing wrong with the printer, they just want to 
force you to "repair it" or buy a new printer. I know this because because 
someone is getting rich selling "reset" codes for these models for $10 a 
pop. As a trial they give you a 30% reset for free (which is what I did to 
see if the code would actually work) and the printer has been running fine 
on that for however many months ago that I did this. Absolutely zero issues.

What really irritated me about this is my wife was printing obituary handouts 
for her brother's funeral and that's when the printer decided to just stop. 
Right in the middle of her job. If this doesn't scream "class action 
lawsuit" I don't know what does. It's pure fraud. 

And, when the pritner does this again, I'll pay $10 for the reset code 
because it's a good printer. Epson has turned into a crappy company.

>>>>>> Response to 2) — I don't even know what OPAL encryption is (and I don't
>>>>>> give a fig). I could encrypt Linux Mint if I wanted to, I choose not to do
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the standard method for hardware encryption and allows you to use
>>>>> the storage at its full speed unlike the software method which
>>>>> compromises on performance very considerably. It has the benefit of
>>>>> keeping your data safe in case of theft without bogging down your hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Okay. I still have no interest in encryption. I've tried to recover data
>>>> from an encrypted hard drive (not mine) in the past. It was futile (for me,
>>>> at least) and I didn't like it.
>>>
>>> I admit that this is an issue which is why my most important data is
>>> also synchronized on the cloud.
>> 
>> I don't syncronize on the Cloud (except for notes in Simplenote).
>
> I try to avoid it, but I don't mind my documents being synchronized and 
> encrypted as a last resort.

Every time I open my Chromebook it whines that I'm not syncing, which is 
exactly what I want. I wish I knew how turn off the notification.

>>> No, I'm stating that even in using Linux for a week or two, I eventually
>>> faced an update which caused the machine to stop booting to desktop as
>>> it should.
>> 
>> Okay. Again, not my experience, but I don't have "exotic" hardware. Dell's
>> business hardware is about as "plain Jane" as you can get.
>
> It's not that exotic, but I admit that some of the things I got used to 
> in Windows are things I want to enable by default in Linux like charging 
> no higher than 80%. It's rather trivial to do that in Linux though.

I looked into that once, decided it wasn't something to worry about (in my 
case I'm not away from power that often — I don't do much traveling).

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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