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Re: Who Knows Hardware?

Subject Re: Who Knows Hardware?
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From CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
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Date 2024-12-17 18:18 -0500

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Le 2024-12-17 à 16:27, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-17 à 03:34, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:56, RonB a écrit :
>>>>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 11:34, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>> On 2024-12-14, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> they like to use advanced functionality like
>>>>>>>>> hardware encryption. The latter simply doesn't work under Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When Windows has the advantage, you tout such concerns as important.
>>>>>>>> But they are not, to most users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many users don't use much software but a Web browser.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OTOH, you disregard the Linux privacy advantage as not important to
>>>>>>>> most users.  That's not fair or consistent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As always in this FUBAR market, Linux serves, very well, those for
>>>>>>>> whom the mainstream options are inadequate.  Many more would be better
>>>>>>>> off with Linux, but simply don't know it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux has not only been "adequate" but superior for me for 18 years. I think
>>>>>>> what "Crude" means is that Linux is not as good as Windows for playing games
>>>>>>> that are made FOR Windows. (Like that's a huge surprise.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'll make it clearer:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Linux is worse for laptop battery life.
>>>>>> 2) Linux doesn't support hardware encryption on OPAL drives (resulting
>>>>>> in a terrible performance hit if you decide to encrypt).
>>>>>> 3) Linux's update system is superior as long as there is no long delay
>>>>>> between updates, but can break things otherwise because they always
>>>>>> overwrite whereas Windows's big updates install the operating system
>>>>>> anew preserving settings and applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Response to 1) — not in my experience. I use Intel GPUs, so maybe that makes
>>>>> a difference.
>>>>
>>>> For power consumption, Intel is generally better than AMD on battery.
>>>
>>> Okay, I'll take your word for that. I've never (personally) had a laptop
>>> that used an AMD CPU. I think my wife had one HP laptop that did — it was a
>>> piece of crap. I think HP makes good business machines, but their consumer
>>> laptops (and desktops) seem to be crap to me. I guess that can be said for
>>> Dell also. I've used Dell's business machines for a long time now.
>>
>> I wouldn't buy a consumer-grade HP laptop considering how poor HP's
>> motherboards seem to be. There is no end to negative reviews of their
>> hardware and I know for a fact that the laptops my wife's company
>> supplies to its employees are HP and they often bend from the heat.
> 
> I'll take your word for it on HP. My brother used to like them, but I think
> he's been moving to Dell lately. (He's a Windows programmer who works from
> home and he was complaining about something in his older HPs.)

I only have an HP printer and these are the bastards who try to get you 
to sign up for a monthly fee for ink or toner refills with them. It 
sounds good until you find out that your printer is disabled because the 
payment didn't go through. 
<https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/HP-Instant-Ink/Do-you-know-that-HP-will-disable-your-printer-when-you-stop/td-p/8587102>

>>>>> Response to 2) — I don't even know what OPAL encryption is (and I don't
>>>>> give a fig). I could encrypt Linux Mint if I wanted to, I choose not to do
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> It is the standard method for hardware encryption and allows you to use
>>>> the storage at its full speed unlike the software method which
>>>> compromises on performance very considerably. It has the benefit of
>>>> keeping your data safe in case of theft without bogging down your hardware.
>>>
>>> Okay. I still have no interest in encryption. I've tried to recover data
>>> from an encrypted hard drive (not mine) in the past. It was futile (for me,
>>> at least) and I didn't like it.
>>
>> I admit that this is an issue which is why my most important data is
>> also synchronized on the cloud.
> 
> I don't syncronize on the Cloud (except for notes in Simplenote).

I try to avoid it, but I don't mind my documents being synchronized and 
encrypted as a last resort.

>> No, I'm stating that even in using Linux for a week or two, I eventually
>> faced an update which caused the machine to stop booting to desktop as
>> it should.
> 
> Okay. Again, not my experience, but I don't have "exotic" hardware. Dell's
> business hardware is about as "plain Jane" as you can get.

It's not that exotic, but I admit that some of the things I got used to 
in Windows are things I want to enable by default in Linux like charging 
no higher than 80%. It's rather trivial to do that in Linux though.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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