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Re: Who Knows Hardware?

Subject Re: Who Knows Hardware?
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From CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
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Date 2024-12-17 09:05 -0500

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Le 2024-12-17 à 03:34, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:56, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 11:34, RonB a écrit :
>>>>> On 2024-12-14, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they like to use advanced functionality like
>>>>>>> hardware encryption. The latter simply doesn't work under Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Windows has the advantage, you tout such concerns as important.
>>>>>> But they are not, to most users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many users don't use much software but a Web browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, you disregard the Linux privacy advantage as not important to
>>>>>> most users.  That's not fair or consistent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always in this FUBAR market, Linux serves, very well, those for
>>>>>> whom the mainstream options are inadequate.  Many more would be better
>>>>>> off with Linux, but simply don't know it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has not only been "adequate" but superior for me for 18 years. I think
>>>>> what "Crude" means is that Linux is not as good as Windows for playing games
>>>>> that are made FOR Windows. (Like that's a huge surprise.)
>>>>
>>>> No, I'll make it clearer:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Linux is worse for laptop battery life.
>>>> 2) Linux doesn't support hardware encryption on OPAL drives (resulting
>>>> in a terrible performance hit if you decide to encrypt).
>>>> 3) Linux's update system is superior as long as there is no long delay
>>>> between updates, but can break things otherwise because they always
>>>> overwrite whereas Windows's big updates install the operating system
>>>> anew preserving settings and applications.
>>>
>>> Response to 1) — not in my experience. I use Intel GPUs, so maybe that makes
>>> a difference.
>>
>> For power consumption, Intel is generally better than AMD on battery.
> 
> Okay, I'll take your word for that. I've never (personally) had a laptop
> that used an AMD CPU. I think my wife had one HP laptop that did — it was a
> piece of crap. I think HP makes good business machines, but their consumer
> laptops (and desktops) seem to be crap to me. I guess that can be said for
> Dell also. I've used Dell's business machines for a long time now.

I wouldn't buy a consumer-grade HP laptop considering how poor HP's 
motherboards seem to be. There is no end to negative reviews of their 
hardware and I know for a fact that the laptops my wife's company 
supplies to its employees are HP and they often bend from the heat.

>>> Response to 2) — I don't even know what OPAL encryption is (and I don't
>>> give a fig). I could encrypt Linux Mint if I wanted to, I choose not to do
>>> it.
>>
>> It is the standard method for hardware encryption and allows you to use
>> the storage at its full speed unlike the software method which
>> compromises on performance very considerably. It has the benefit of
>> keeping your data safe in case of theft without bogging down your hardware.
> 
> Okay. I still have no interest in encryption. I've tried to recover data
> from an encrypted hard drive (not mine) in the past. It was futile (for me,
> at least) and I didn't like it.

I admit that this is an issue which is why my most important data is 
also synchronized on the cloud.

>>> Response to 3) — As I've mentioned (a few times now) Linux works fine for me
>>> when updating computers that haven't been updated for over year, sometimes
>>> even multiple years. I've never had a Linux OS update failure. Meanwhile, my
>>> son's Windows 10 computer is running like a snail (with obvious issues) —
>>> and it refuses to update. I've tried about five Windows' "solutions" so far.
>>> No luck. I saw that it had an update "troubleshooter." I ran it. It claimed,
>>> for about FIVE hours, that it was "resolving the problem." It completed the
>>> "fix" with the message "Update Problem Found." Like no shit, Sherlock,
>>> that's why I ran the damn troubleshooter, because I had already "found" the
>>> problem. I know what's going to end up fixing it. Using a Linux USB to back
>>> up the files my son wants to save and rebuilding from scratch. This is
>>> always the way you "fix" Windows crap.
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, how would you know Linux doesn't update properly if not
>>> updated regularly? You never keep it installed long enough to know this.
>>
>> That is actually part of why I don't keep Linux installed for long.
> 
> Okay, so... your judging Linux by hearsay?

No, I'm stating that even in using Linux for a week or two, I eventually 
faced an update which caused the machine to stop booting to desktop as 
it should.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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