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Re: Who Knows Hardware?

From RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Who Knows Hardware?
Date 2024-12-17 08:34 +0000
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On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:56, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 11:34, RonB a écrit :
>>>> On 2024-12-14, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> they like to use advanced functionality like
>>>>>> hardware encryption. The latter simply doesn't work under Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> When Windows has the advantage, you tout such concerns as important.
>>>>> But they are not, to most users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many users don't use much software but a Web browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH, you disregard the Linux privacy advantage as not important to
>>>>> most users.  That's not fair or consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always in this FUBAR market, Linux serves, very well, those for
>>>>> whom the mainstream options are inadequate.  Many more would be better
>>>>> off with Linux, but simply don't know it.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has not only been "adequate" but superior for me for 18 years. I think
>>>> what "Crude" means is that Linux is not as good as Windows for playing games
>>>> that are made FOR Windows. (Like that's a huge surprise.)
>>>
>>> No, I'll make it clearer:
>>>
>>> 1) Linux is worse for laptop battery life.
>>> 2) Linux doesn't support hardware encryption on OPAL drives (resulting
>>> in a terrible performance hit if you decide to encrypt).
>>> 3) Linux's update system is superior as long as there is no long delay
>>> between updates, but can break things otherwise because they always
>>> overwrite whereas Windows's big updates install the operating system
>>> anew preserving settings and applications.
>> 
>> Response to 1) — not in my experience. I use Intel GPUs, so maybe that makes
>> a difference.
>
> For power consumption, Intel is generally better than AMD on battery.

Okay, I'll take your word for that. I've never (personally) had a laptop 
that used an AMD CPU. I think my wife had one HP laptop that did — it was a 
piece of crap. I think HP makes good business machines, but their consumer 
laptops (and desktops) seem to be crap to me. I guess that can be said for 
Dell also. I've used Dell's business machines for a long time now.

>> Response to 2) — I don't even know what OPAL encryption is (and I don't
>> give a fig). I could encrypt Linux Mint if I wanted to, I choose not to do
>> it.
>
> It is the standard method for hardware encryption and allows you to use 
> the storage at its full speed unlike the software method which 
> compromises on performance very considerably. It has the benefit of 
> keeping your data safe in case of theft without bogging down your hardware.

Okay. I still have no interest in encryption. I've tried to recover data 
from an encrypted hard drive (not mine) in the past. It was futile (for me, 
at least) and I didn't like it.

>> Response to 3) — As I've mentioned (a few times now) Linux works fine for me
>> when updating computers that haven't been updated for over year, sometimes
>> even multiple years. I've never had a Linux OS update failure. Meanwhile, my
>> son's Windows 10 computer is running like a snail (with obvious issues) —
>> and it refuses to update. I've tried about five Windows' "solutions" so far.
>> No luck. I saw that it had an update "troubleshooter." I ran it. It claimed,
>> for about FIVE hours, that it was "resolving the problem." It completed the
>> "fix" with the message "Update Problem Found." Like no shit, Sherlock,
>> that's why I ran the damn troubleshooter, because I had already "found" the
>> problem. I know what's going to end up fixing it. Using a Linux USB to back
>> up the files my son wants to save and rebuilding from scratch. This is
>> always the way you "fix" Windows crap.
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, how would you know Linux doesn't update properly if not
>> updated regularly? You never keep it installed long enough to know this.
>
> That is actually part of why I don't keep Linux installed for long.

Okay, so... your judging Linux by hearsay?

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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