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Re: no gmail with yosemite

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: no gmail with yosemite
Date 2015-04-06 03:58 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnmi4140.1ult.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
References <mfrubo$req$1@dont-email.me> <Iuadnb_efoSfDbzInZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com> <mfsmdj$6cc$1@dont-email.me>

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In message <mfsmdj$6cc$1@dont-email.me> 
  J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 4/5/15, 3:41 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2015-04-05 14:20, J Burns wrote:
>>>
>>> I removed the google account from mail.app and started over. First I
>>> made screen shots of the account preferences, in case google's
>>> instructions didn't work for me.
>>>
>>> Yosemite is supposed to set up a gmail imap or pop account automatically
>>
>> It should prefer IMAP
>>
>>> of you supply your user name and password. Again and again, it said they
>>> were invalid.  They'd been valid for pop an hour ago and were still
>>> valid for web mail, which said pop was activated.
>>
>> Note that yesterday afternoon GMail was not working well (you could
>> "fetch" but not send e-mails).

> I wish you'd told me that Mail.app and Safari no longer store Google 
> passwords in Keychain.

Of course it does.

> I checked the keychain for my web, imap, pop, and smtp password.  It was 
> the same as always.  Then, through web access, I happened to notice that 
> my password had been changed in November.  I signed out and signed in 
> manually, using the password in keychain.  I was rejected.

> My Text Edit notes refreshed my memory.  When I signed onto google on 
> the web in November, they demanded that I change from my 10-character 
> password to something longer. I figured that if I later needed the new 
> password for another google service, I could find it in Keychain, but I 
> made a Text Edit note, like a belt in addition to suspenders.

> In Mail.app, pop probably called for my new password within a few 
> minutes. To send from that account, Mail.app simply used another smtp 
> server, never asking me for my google password.  That's why I was 
> unaware of the problem for more than 4 months.  There was no clue in 
> Keychain because the new password never appeared there.

Don't know what you did, but my google passwords have always updated
just fine. If it was conencting to a new server that it had an old
password for, it would use the old password. Should give a password
error if you use the wrong one, but I haven't used POP in 15 years
(because it's crap).

> Before I found my old memo of the password change, I'd deleted the gmail 
> account in Mail.app by hitting the minus sign in preferences. 

That should have told you something was wrong (probably because you
manually added the account). Accounts should be added and removed in the
Internet Accounts System Preference. Normally, if you try to delete an
account in Mail, it will tell you to delete it in System Preferences.

-- 
And she was looking at herself
And things were looking like a movie
She had a pleasant elevation
She's moving out in all directions

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no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 14:20 -0400
  Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-05 15:41 -0400
    Re: no gmail with yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-05 19:50 +0000
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-05 16:35 -0400
        Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 01:02 +0000
    Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 21:11 -0400
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 03:58 +0000
        Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 01:33 -0400
          Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 13:15 +0000
            Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 15:56 -0400
              Re: no gmail with yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 08:50 +1200
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 17:16 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 11:08 +1200
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 20:24 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:40 +0000
              Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:27 +0000
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 23:12 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-07 16:11 +1200
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 09:58 -0400

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