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Re: no gmail with yosemite

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On 4/5/15, 3:41 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-04-05 14:20, J Burns wrote:
>>
>> I removed the google account from mail.app and started over. First I
>> made screen shots of the account preferences, in case google's
>> instructions didn't work for me.
>>
>> Yosemite is supposed to set up a gmail imap or pop account automatically
>
> It should prefer IMAP
>
>> of you supply your user name and password. Again and again, it said they
>> were invalid.  They'd been valid for pop an hour ago and were still
>> valid for web mail, which said pop was activated.
>
> Note that yesterday afternoon GMail was not working well (you could
> "fetch" but not send e-mails).

I wish you'd told me that Mail.app and Safari no longer store Google 
passwords in Keychain.

I checked the keychain for my web, imap, pop, and smtp password.  It was 
the same as always.  Then, through web access, I happened to notice that 
my password had been changed in November.  I signed out and signed in 
manually, using the password in keychain.  I was rejected.

My Text Edit notes refreshed my memory.  When I signed onto google on 
the web in November, they demanded that I change from my 10-character 
password to something longer. I figured that if I later needed the new 
password for another google service, I could find it in Keychain, but I 
made a Text Edit note, like a belt in addition to suspenders.

In Mail.app, pop probably called for my new password within a few 
minutes. To send from that account, Mail.app simply used another smtp 
server, never asking me for my google password.  That's why I was 
unaware of the problem for more than 4 months.  There was no clue in 
Keychain because the new password never appeared there.
>
>>
>> After several failures, yosemite said I'd have to do it manually. Until
>> an hour ago, I did, but now I couldn't log on to either server.
>>
>> I logged off and went to an empty user account in yosemite. When I told
>> mail.app I wanted to set up a google mail account, it was the same
>> story, my user name and password were invalid.
>>
>> Is there any way to have gmail pop/stmp with mail.app under yosemite?
>
> Yep.  I have two such (IMAP) accounts.
>
>
Before I found my old memo of the password change, I'd deleted the gmail 
account in Mail.app by hitting the minus sign in preferences. I tried to 
set up Mail.app anew with gamail by hitting New Account.  It kept 
ignoring my username/password.  Thunderbird still worked with that account.

By clicking Accounts instead of New Account, I found that Yosemite still 
listed my google account, although it didn't show up in Mail.  Deleting 
that solved the problem.

Why didn't you tell me Yosemite is that sneaky? I'll bet Apple and 
Google have bought the US Post Office. By keeping a user's email account 
secure from the user, they're working together to drive customers to 
snail mail, the wave of the future.

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no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 14:20 -0400
  Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-05 15:41 -0400
    Re: no gmail with yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-05 19:50 +0000
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-05 16:35 -0400
        Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 01:02 +0000
    Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 21:11 -0400
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 03:58 +0000
        Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 01:33 -0400
          Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 13:15 +0000
            Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 15:56 -0400
              Re: no gmail with yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 08:50 +1200
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 17:16 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 11:08 +1200
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 20:24 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:40 +0000
              Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:27 +0000
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 23:12 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-07 16:11 +1200
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 09:58 -0400

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