Re: no gmail with yosemite

From	J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: no gmail with yosemite
Date	2015-04-06 15:56 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<mfuoba$cm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 4/6/15, 9:15 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <mft5p6$g5v$1@dont-email.me>
>    J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you tell me the difference between Login and Local Items in
>> Keychain? Login items run from 2012 until today. Local Items run from
>> Mavericks until today. I saw all my mail server passwords in Login. I
>> didn't know Keychain also kept passwords for those servers in Local Items.
>
> I have a login keychain and an iCloud keychain. I do not have "Local
> Items". I used to have my primary keychain set to my account name, but
> over the last couple of OS Versions I've found that the OS really
> doesn't like that and will create a login keychain frequently, so since
> most my passwords are in in the iCloud keychain anyway, I stopped trying
> to force a <username> keychain file.
>
I'll bet Apple came up with Local Items for passwords that shouldn't go 
on iCloud.  I'm not on iCloud, so since December of 2013, most of my 
passwords had gone to Local Items.  Fooled me!
>
>>> Don't know what you did, but my google passwords have always updated
>>> just fine. If it was conencting to a new server that it had an old
>>> password for, it would use the old password. Should give a password
>>> error if you use the wrong one,
>
>> I tried to explain that.  Instead of giving me a password error, Mail
>> simply used an alternate smtp server.
>
> That is odd, since on my system it will come up with an error and ask to
> use another SMTP server if it can't send mail.

In Mail.app Preferences, where you can choose which smtp server an 
account will use, there's a checkbox saying "Use only this server." For 
my gmail account, it was unchecked. I don't know if I unchecked it or it 
was unchecked by default.
>
>> I'll bet I'm not the only fool who deleted a mail account in Mail. Maybe
>> Apple will fix it in OS 10.11.  All it would take would be a little
>> sign, "DON'T CLICK THIS BUTTON!!!"
>
> If you DO click that button you get (well, I get) a dialog that the
> account is shared and I should delete it via the Internet Accounts
> System Preferences.
>
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/154f63w4ect7hip/Screenshot%202015-04-06%2007.11.49.png?dl=0>
>
> Maybe you aren't using iCloud?
>
I'll bet that's the difference. If I tried to talk on a cellphone while 
walking, I'd walk into a tree.  Portable devices aren't for me!

Thread

no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 14:20 -0400
  Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-05 15:41 -0400
    Re: no gmail with yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-05 19:50 +0000
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-05 16:35 -0400
        Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 01:02 +0000
    Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 21:11 -0400
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 03:58 +0000
        Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 01:33 -0400
          Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 13:15 +0000
            Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 15:56 -0400
              Re: no gmail with yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 08:50 +1200
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 17:16 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-07 11:08 +1200
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 20:24 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:40 +0000
              Re: no gmail with yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:27 +0000
                Re: no gmail with yosemite J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-06 23:12 -0400
                Re: no gmail with yosemite Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-07 16:11 +1200
      Re: no gmail with yosemite Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 09:58 -0400

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