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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: 8MB sms pic |
| Date | 2018-11-15 21:11 +0000 |
| Organization | NOYB |
| Message-ID | <pskqt2.54c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <psi85l$7gn$1@dont-email.me> <pskaa2.558.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <151120181209098431%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pskj9e.3n8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <151120181451363321%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <pskj9e.3n8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > Some food for thought on the TOTP paper tiger(s):
> > > >
> > > > - If TOTP is all that red hot, then why is the list of 'Server
> > > > implementations' - read: service providers which use TOTP - so
> > > > pathetically short, not even 30 providers/companies?
> > > > And - as you say - not a financial institution in sight.
> > >
> > > nonsense. far more than 30 companies use totp, including many banks.
> >
> > Which you can't bother to mention. Why is that?
>
> no need for a list. your claim is wrong.
Earth to nospam: I didn't 'claim' anything. I just pointed to a list
and said what it does (not) say.
> but if you insist, look at the software token column:
You mean where it says "[f] Tell them to support 2FA on Facebook"!?
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#banking>
<barf!> Thanks for proving my and 123456789 points!
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#finance>
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#investing>
>
> there are a *lot* of banks and many other companies offering totp.
>
> > 123456789 is dying to switch to such a bank, so why not help him out!
>
> he isn't 'dying to switch' to anything.
Sarchasm.
[...]
> > > > - Funny that you mentioned Google. Google (Google Account) indeed only
> > > > offers 2FA on Android (and iOS) or via ... <drumroll> ... SMS!
> > >
> > > false.
> >
> > Nope, true. Read on.
>
> not true.
Might be US-only. Read on.
> > > google offers several options, including sms, totp and a physical
> > > hardware token for those who want maximum security:
> > > <https://store.google.com/product/titan_security_key_kit>
> >
> > Nope, they don't. Read on.
>
> they do.
Might be US-only. Read on.
> > <unsnip>
> >
> > > > N.B. I concentrated on Google/Android/Chrome/Windows, because I can
> > > > oversee/verify what is (not) possible for those.
> >
> > </unsnip>
> >
> > See the "verify" bit!? Contrary to you, I don't do paper tigers, so I
> > *tested* this: Google Account does *only* offer SMS when setting 2-Step
> > Verification to On, in a *Chrome* browser on a Windows system. Them's
> > the *facts*.
>
> nope. them's *not* the facts.
>
> google supports sms, phone call, hardware and *software* *token* (aka
> totp), and is listed in several categories:
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#cloud>
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#domains>
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#email>
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#payments>
> <https://twofactorauth.org/#social>
>
> i've been using totp with google and many other services for several
> years without issue.
Another US-only thing again?
As I said, here (The Netherlands), it does *not* work, because you can
*not* set it in Google Account.
So we've your story versus my test.
Perhaps you could persuade some non-US (and preferably non-CA) posters
to test what '2-Step Verification' options *they* can and can not set in
Google Account. Good luck with that.
Of course US-posters are welcome to confirm/deny your US-findings.
To reproduce:
<https://myaccount.google.com> -> Sign-in & security -> Signing in to
Google -> Password & sign-in method -> 2-Step Verification (was Off) ->
'Protect your account with 2-Step Verification ...' -> GET STARTED ->
<enter your password> (:-)) -> Next ->
"Use your phone as your second sign-in step
Google will send a secure notification to your phone as your second
factor during 2-Step Verification.
Get Google prompts on these devices now
All devices signed into your Google Account will get prompts. You can
control which phones get prompts in your 2-Step Verification settings.
[My Android phone]
[My Android tablet]"
It does *not* list my Windows computer on which I'm logged in in
Google Account.
Further it says:
"Don't want to use Google prompt?
Choose another option"
Of course I *do* want to use Google prompt, but I *cannot* use it on
this device (Windows computer), so I click 'Choose another option'.
By golley! That *does* offer "Security Key A small physical device
used for signing in", but that's not what I/we want, because this
discussion is about *software* ('apps') (TOTP) alternatives to SMS.
The only other option is ... drum roll ...:
"Text message or voice call
Get codes by text message or phone call"
QED.
So now the ball is in your court to try persuade others to test how
things are in their non-US(/non-CA) country.
[Other points which are - at least for the moment - irrelevant, deleted.]
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Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:30 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:12 +0000
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Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:51 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:22 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:42 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:54 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:06 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 20:26 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:40 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 21:23 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:32 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 22:21 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:50 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:02 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:34 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:32 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:43 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:54 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 18:31 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 19:16 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:24 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:31 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 17:28 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 18:47 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-14 19:00 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:53 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 15:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:03 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:10 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:40 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:27 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:01 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 14:51 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:11 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:47 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:43 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 01:10 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:10 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 11:24 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 10:32 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:48 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 18:05 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:10 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 15:03 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:23 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 11:40 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:46 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-13 06:35 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:17 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:37 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:12 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:57 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:59 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:38 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:12 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:06 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:04 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 10:54 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-13 06:59 -0600
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Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:11 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:37 +0100
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