Re: personal cloud

From	Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: personal cloud
Date	2018-10-12 14:59 +0200
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 12/10/18 14:05, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Soviet_Mario wrote:
>> On 12/10/18 12:40, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/18 22:54, William Unruh wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> As with all Linux/Unix tools, you use many small tools to build a big
>>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> surely true, but a solution not very apt to unskilled person :\
>>>
>>> And setting up {own,next}cloud, and keeping up with security, and all
>>> that jazz is?
>>
>> I have not tried yet so I can't tell to which extent this
>> software lets me delegate details ...
> 
> "Details" of what? 

well, keeping up with security "manually" I meant. I hoped 
the SW would do the dirty work for me :)

> You (the "unskilled person") still have to set it
> up.

to some extent It would be acceptable

> 
>>>>> If you want to invite someone, you can always send them and
>>>>> email.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to share one single link in order for users without
>>>> password to be able to just download files (and reserving to
>>>> myself the ability to load contents and modify them).
>>>
>>> Just run static html then.  Sure, it's not as "pretty", but if it's just
>>> to "let the public grab files(tm)", you don't exactly need "pretty".
>>>
>>
>> independently I was getting to think that what I might also
>> need would be a SELF-HOSTED  FTP service (I don't know any
>> details about this).
> 
> FTP would work too, but I find apache easier to setup than vsftpd.

uhm ... If you find it complicate to setup vsftpd, than it's 
not likely to suit me too

> 
>> Provided an abstraction layer, able to translate statical
>> "literal" names (typed urls in nav. bar) into dynamically
>> mutable IP, exist, and that is free of charge.
> 
> You just described (dynamic) DNS.  Note that it's not *free* though
> (unless you're okay using silly domain names, such as
> "soviet-mario.isanerd.net").

I'd accept ANY name. It's not a brand, I have to sell 
nothing to anyone :)



> 
> But also, $20 for a year isn't exactly expensive.
> 
>> [...]
>> and if one choosed FTP service, any change in the underlying
>> folder would not be automatically synced for remote users
>> who simply reload the page ?
> 
> Remote users would need to refresh the page after you update it.  That
> is, if you had a page with
> 
>   - file1
>   - file2
>   - file3
> 
> and while I'm looking at the page, you happen to add
> 
>   - file4
> 
> I won't see "file4" until I refresh the page.
> 
>> As long as FTP supports some different restrictions for who
>> are allowed to upload and simply download, and also some
>> restrictions in SCOPE (i.g. sharing just some folders and
>> not necessarily an entire partition).
> 
> It does, but it's more geared towards "upload and download" - which is
> why I suggested http for the transfers -- that's generally "one way" for
> the client (that is, when you go to a website, you can't also upload to
> it).
> 
>> [...]
>> What do you think about FTP ?
>> are there ways to restrict browsing areas for unprivileged
>> users ?
> 
> FTP would also be usable, but I prefer http for most cases.
> 
>>> [...]
>>>> * regardless of dynamically assigned IP (real-time syncing
>>>> more or less, but better than real-time, automatic
>>>> reconnection on IP change if line drops and the provider
>>>> reassign a different IP)
>>>
>>> Dynamic DNS setup, with auto-updates.  See providers such as dyndns.com,
>>> no-ip.com, etc.
>>
>> but these services, also work with self-hosted servers ?
> 
> Of course.  That's kind of their purpose.
>>
>>>
>>>> * controlling privileges of access on the DATA : myself =
>>>> total control, users who just have the shared link, only
>>>> download (no change on my storage allowed). I mean, I don't
>>>> need sort of GIT or google docs for many authors to modify
>>>> shared docs. Just read-only guests.
>>>
>>> Again, static html.  Although that is slightly more of a pain for video
>>> (but it's not exactly an 'unsolved problem').
>>
>> mmm ... I'd prefer FTP like service.
>> Tell me your opinion about that. It's conceptually similar
>> in the kind of activity it supports.
> 
> So then instead of you static html file linking to each thing you want
> to share, link to a directory with no "index.html".  Users will see the
> directory listing, and be able to select what they want to download.
> 
> For example: http://www.djph.net/linuxstuff
> 

sorry I messed up with replies. The system crashed with two 
drafts partially saved. I apologize for double overlapped answer

> 


-- 
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2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

Thread

personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-11 17:49 +0200
  Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 18:55 +0200
  Re: personal cloud "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-11 19:01 +0200
  Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-11 19:36 +0200
    Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-11 19:39 +0200
  Re: personal cloud William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 18:56 +0000
    Re: personal cloud "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-11 21:57 +0200
      Re: personal cloud William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 20:54 +0000
        Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 11:48 +0200
          Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 10:40 +0000
            Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 13:27 +0200
              Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 12:05 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 14:29 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 12:37 +0000
                Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 14:43 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 14:59 +0200
            Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 13:37 +0200
              Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 12:14 +0000
          Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 05:46 -0500
            Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 13:33 +0200
              Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 12:12 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 14:51 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 13:01 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 15:27 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 13:31 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 17:02 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-10-12 11:15 -0400
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-13 00:22 +0200
                Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-15 04:23 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 09:58 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-12 22:50 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-13 02:06 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-13 02:08 +0000
                Re: personal cloud "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-13 07:32 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-13 11:53 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-13 10:40 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-13 15:25 +0200
                Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-15 04:37 +0200
      Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 11:37 +0200
    Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 11:35 +0200
      Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 04:48 -0500
        Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 13:06 +0200
          Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 13:43 +0200
          Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 07:29 -0500
          Re: personal cloud Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:58 +0000
            Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 16:59 +0200
              Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 15:34 +0000
              Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-14 14:14 +0200
            Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-12 22:34 +0000
              Re: personal cloud William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-13 15:03 +0000
                Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-13 18:50 +0000
        Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 14:33 +0200
          Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 07:45 -0500
      Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-12 22:24 +0000

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